Games Trainers Play: The Florida Horse Saga

I thought that the seller talked to the father/buyer on the phone though (unless the father thought was trying to get $2,500+/- off of a $20,000 horse while the seller wanted no less then $1,000 off of a $10,000+/- horse, and they just never gave much thought to the fact that there “starting prices” were different things?)

Only 96 more posts needed to reach the 1500 goal

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I thought that the seller talked to the father/buyer on the phone though (unless the father thought was trying to get $2,500+/- off of a $20,000 horse while the seller wanted no less then $1,000 off of a $10,000+/- horse, and they just never gave much thought to the fact that there “starting prices” were different things?)

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How ironic if they DID have that conversation and missed the chance to catch Thing 1 and Thing 2 read handed double crossing both of them. Seems like there are victims on both sides of this story and the only “winners” are the Things.

I have a feeling by the time we all finish re-hashing and getting filled in on more gossip as it becomes available we’ll hit 1500 posts. Hey, Floriday peeps did they show this weekend?

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I had no idea about fake xrays and am stunned Iron Horse saw their horse being resold with “clean xrays”

Curiouser and curioser

Would the vet be liable in any way for something like this? I saw someone posted that the horse’s name should be on the xrays. Is that by region or everywhere?[/QUOTE]

Before vets get lambasted think about it: client shows up with a plain bay horse and says, “Please do pre-purchase x-rays. This horse is Iced-T.” How on earth is the vet supposed to know this is Iced T? So vet does films and puts name on the x-rays. Meanwhile the real horse is back in the barn and another plain bay is filmed. [NOT saying this happened this time, just how it could happen].

Now if a vet is treating your horse, s/he should recognize it, but on the show circuit? Or going to a “lameness specialist” or whatever? No way the vet could know. He has to rely on what he’s told.

this cannot end!!!

i need more drama in my life

and this story is too good to be true. i am such a tremendously nosey person that i have to know more!!!

donkey has to spill the beans on everything known! there must be more because this entertains me when i am supposed to be working.

doing my best to increase post count

you got to admit-- it be a cliff hanger-- hahah

hey woody how do you know they been reading up-- you been spying with donkey man

haha i just a funny thought

donkeyman-- and woodland – get it

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no, i don’t get it… please explain, its monday and i am a little slow this morning.

Comeon! Out with Thing one and THing two!!!

I’m back now…and YEAH, I’d like at least some hints here…and to help make the 1500 post point.

Just can’t help but spew coffee on the keyboard at the claim this was the buyer’s kid’s intended Marshall and Sterling mount.

Really? In what? 3 years or something?
Not meaning to be catty but those pics are a hell of a long way from Marshall and Sterling and methinks trainer is…er…exaggerating the kids ability to the buyer…to say the least.

Oh…but the x rays said the horse is not going to last long enough for that kid to learn to ride well enough to even think of competing on the upper levels.

Alot of sunshine going up various rear ends here.

And, maybe, alot of lies too.

Alot of sunshine going up various rear ends here.

<Snort!!!>:lol::lol::lol:

Make sure your friend lets the buyers know that in FL they passed a disclosure law for equines that you have to have a buyer SIGN if you are acting as a dual agent and if they were able to pocket a huge difference between buyer and seller it will now be A LOT easier to prosecute them.

And, as I live SO CLOSE to Winter Haven (about an hour) please let me know (PM if necessary) who the unscrupulous trainer is).

ya know…the COTH BB seems to have done something here our industry has struggled with over the years. Mainly speaking up and exerting some peer pressure to behave in a responsible way.

So often “everybody” knows but nobody speaks up. Well, we spoke and seller seems to have her money-and almost all of what she was asking for originally.

Whatever else has gone on, we got that done and, just maybe, it’s because this thread got back to those involved.

Like to think so anyway.

I looked at HorseshowSpy, but couldn’t find any info there…if there, what thread is it under?

I still say this horse was RE-SOLD at a profit before they ever sent the original owner a cheque.

Seen it done MANY times.

Cinder

No it was not RESOLD. Thing 2 NEVER BOUGHT IT. Despite lying about wanting it for herself when it shipped.

She flipped it without paying a dime for it. By my poor math skills it looks like she sent seller…6500? for it while pocketing another 13500 from the actual buyer if the supposed price was actually 20k as claimed earlier on here and the seller’s original price was what was hinted at by OP.

That would be dual agency without disclosure and illegal in Kentucky where seller lives. But doubt anything will come of this other then a perfect example of how undisclosed dual agency works and why it is becoming illegal.

I am still waiting, not very patiently either, for the tid bits donkeyman promised when this whole thing finished…

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Can Spineless get in touch with the Alleged Buyers directly? I mean, I’m guessing she won’t (hence the nickname) but is she able to? Names? Address…even just the town? Phone? Anything? I’ll be damned if the Alleged Buyers and Spineless were within $5K of the same “asking price”.

Is that form available online?

That’s pretty much what I’m waiting for too - the dirty details! I can’t help but want to know who got how much $ out of this little learning experience.

I am glad the seller got her money though!!