Girth and rein suggestions

Two pieces of tack have been on my mind lately, so we’ll start with the girth. I’ve used the Ovation body form gel girth and a Mattes asymmetrical girth on my young horse and he’s still quite girthy. Moreso with the Mattes, which is weird. I do the girth up in a very slow and multi-step process. He’s remained this way through treatment with omeprazole (the only symptom he has is being girthy). We didn’t scope initially, but I’ll be speaking with my vet about that today. He does not have the ability to scope, so we will have to haul to a clinic further away.

On the off chance that it’s not ulcer related, what other girths should I try for a sensitive horse? The Mattes is really wide at the part where the buckles are at, which I don’t love. It is their slimline version. He does have a round barrel, somewhat forward girth groove, and seemingly not much space between his shoulder/elbow and wide barrel. He’s actually no longer fat, but seems to have a well sprung rib cage. I’m wondering if mohair would be a decent idea? The Stubben Equisoft seems interesting too.

On another tack related note, I cannot find reins that I like. I’d basically like the Thinline reins, but thinner. They’re too fat. I don’t like stops, and I don’t like rubber/texture. I had calfskin wrapped or covered thin reins ages ago, but they eventually broke, and are no longer made. I was somewhat ok with my PS of Sweden reins that just had rubber on the inside, and they were thin. Anyone have any ideas on what might be suitable?

You might try the Tapestry Comfort Girth. It has a fairly low profile and is nicely stretchy. No idea about reins. I have a pair I bought from Five Star Tack a million years ago and I’m not sure they are even still in business. Oh, and they have stops, which you don’t like anyways…

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Sometimes what seems like a girth problem is actually a saddle problem

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Maybe you would like what are sold as curb reins for a double bridle. They are usually quite thin and easy to find with no stops or rubber.

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I was just editing my comment to say this! 1/2" curb reins might be perfect

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I was going to suggest Curb reins too but just a warning - if you ride in the rain you will have zero traction on those reins and they will slip right through your hands. Ask me how I know.

The reins that came with my Halter Ego are thin and only have rubber grip on one side - but they do have stops.

For girths I’m a fan of TSF Girths. I like the ones with elastic inset.

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Curb reins sound like what you want.

Freedman’s leather will custom make reins exactly like you want. They do a rein that’s rubber on the inside that is nice.

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I know, but he does this in any saddle. He can be the same way with the surcingle too, which is why I thought ulcers. The current saddle does fit and I do actually trust my fitter. When a saddle has been not quite right in the past, he will walk away or move when I saddle him, or be funny about mounting. He does not do that anymore ever since I got this newer saddle, and seems content with the saddle and riding. He’s quite fine working, just the initial girthing.

I know that every horse has ulcers and no horse has a saddle that fits on COTH :rofl: but if it’s really just a matter of a different girth…

I was thinking about a curb rein. I do have the reins from my double I could try riding with. I typically don’t ride in the rain, but you never know!

If the Thinline rains were in fact thin, they’d be suitable because they’re not textured or too rubber like for me. I could perhaps get custom reins, but I didn’t want to dive down that rabbit hole immediately. They were just leather “covered” reins, or something.

I like the Stubben EquiSoft. I alternate between that and the Prestige that has the donut in the middle (both pricey girths, but I got the Prestige used for a decent price). However my mare is not a difficult shape for girths.

It looks like Stubben makes calfskin reins without stops: https://marystack.com/stubben-soft-calfskin-reins-snap-buckle-or-hook-stud-ends/?sku=108414-001&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsOq6BhDuARIsAGQ4-zg3oX-MU-x8CFm0DnMpgvVot9k0WUqdB2nTPdn-FNmmThZcu0cLyvMaAkHcEALw_wcB

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Those reins would probably work! I just have to find them in black with a stud end :grimacing:

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I used the thinline reins for years. Then i tried a friends schockemohle durasoft reins and that’s what i use now. They have stops but more like soft bumps in the leather. I don’t usually like stops but i like these. I have the ones that are all leather no rubber backing.

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Do you know of anyone who sells these in leather only, without the rubber on the inside?

My gelding has strong opinions on his girth. What worked for me was to just order a bunch of different styles at once and watch his reaction to each one to narrow down the winner. Most were an immediate no and didn’t make it out of the cross ties. I ordered them all from Smartpak and just returned the ones that didn’t work, and being able to compare back to back was really helpful.

I’d start with a basic straight fleece girth and then add a sampling from different options: contoured on one side, contoured on both sides, curved forward, leather, fleece, padded, not padded, etc. Throw out any ideas of what your horse “should” like, you might be surprised. I thought mine would love the fancy anatomical TSF girth - nope. Hated that one most of all. I know a few horses who prefer the cheap fleece girths to fancier options (not mine, sadly, but he did rank that one over the TSF). My guy also has a strong preference for leather and doesn’t like fleece girths so keep material in mind.

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Yeah, it’s going to be trial and error for sure.

I’ve not tried anything leather or anything that’s just straight (not sure if that’d work or not). I’m kind of curious as to how and where he prefers (or doesn’t) pressure.

I alternate between the same 2 girths. do you feel a difference in how your horse goes in either?

I owned a gelding several years ago that did not like shaped girths but did fine in plain straight ones. I have no idea if it was simply what was familiar to him or if there was something about the larger shaped belly area of the girth that felt restrictive. But he was very clear about his preferences.

This may not be something you want to do, but I have bought reins that looked like they would feel right in my hands and then removed the stops.

The girth that has worked well for me is the Toklat T3 Woolback girth that has memory foam underneath the wool layer:

https://www.ridingwarehouse.com/Toklat_WoolBack_T3_Flex_Form_EnduranceDressage_Girth/descpage-TWFEG.html?from=gpmax&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsOq6BhDuARIsAGQ4-zjurEZVkBUb9u-SjsGhNM1C6reiK4tCyxLD2GAyRiEg44GiM_R2PMIaAlFVEALw_wcB

I have tried every girth known to man, but also had several hard to fit horses. I’d say the best one that all horses really liked was the Mikmar girth.

I have small hands and really love thin 1/2 reins with rubber weaved in and stops. Horze sells a pair that are very cheap and durable. They are my fave.

Good luck!

https://www.ridingwarehouse.com/Schockemoehle_16mm_DuraSoft_Leather_Reins_wStops/descpage-SDSR.html?from=gpmax&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsOq6BhDuARIsAGQ4-zhE2X3BQyHtrhERMrBbyvrKdE3tqZuPZDq8jf3mxrEpX5Wxa5DL9IMaAl0xEALw_wcB

They are just called durasoft. The ones with rubber are durasoft grip i think.

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