So I have been snooping around COTH for a while now…but not I feel like I should FINIALLY post something. Anyways, I have been searching all the hafie threads and cannot really find anything on crossbreds. Long story short…a friend of a friend has offered me a very reduced breeding fee to an absolutely gorgeous German Riding Pony. Has anyone else had any success with this cross…or any other hafie cross??? I would love to hear about all crosses. Thanks!!!
Ingrid Kraus had one that you could cram down my throat any day:
http://www.happyhaflingers.com/images/alouetteik1_lg.jpg
http://www.happyhaflingers.com/images/alouetteik2_lg.jpg
The dam is Leps Vanessa, a very athletic Nobleman mare:
http://www.happyhaflingers.com/images/vanessa_jump_show_lg.jpg
Makuba is the sire.
They’re not crossed often, but every sport-type cross I’ve seen is LOVELY (ie, NICE Haflinger to a quality GRP, WB, TB, etc).
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Ingrid Kraus had one that you could cram down my throat any day:
http://www.happyhaflingers.com/images/alouetteik1_lg.jpg
http://www.happyhaflingers.com/images/alouetteik2_lg.jpg
The dam is Leps Vanessa, a very athletic Nobleman mare:
http://www.happyhaflingers.com/images/vanessa_jump_show_lg.jpg
Makuba is the sire.
They’re not crossed often, but every sport-type cross I’ve seen is LOVELY (ie, NICE Haflinger to a quality GRP, WB, TB, etc).[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the pictures…what a cutie!
I was riding a haffie wb cross last year. Sweet little guy, and very unique. No pics unfortunatly.
Mine is a granddaughter of Aristrocrat out of a sport pony approved broodmare. She earned a 1st Premium. Super temperament, easy! A pretty red dun color, built like a tank (I am 5’8"). Has been under saddle 6 mo:
You tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjzp1b3A8ho walk
http://www.goodpony.net/2004-Pictures-227.jpg
This is a HalflingerxArabian cross we sold. As she matured she became more Halflinger like. I think I would be careful in selecting a stallion with some solid limbs/feet as I don’t think I’d like a halfie body on too refined legs and feet.
When they originaly started developing the GRP in Germany they reportedly tried crossing Haflingers and had limited success. I don’t know alot of details about it (it was 40+ years ago)…but apparently it was not the result they expected.
If you decide to do the cross…keep us posted;)
This was pretty early on. Some history:
In 1965 German pony breeding associations saw the need to develop a breed of large pony that would be suitable for national and international competition for children. The goal was to maintain the pony character, type and willingness to perform along with the competitive athleticism of a riding horse.
Breeders’ first attempts were what they thought would be the easy solution, to cross thoroughbred and Arabian stallions with Fjord and Haflinger ponies. These cross-breeding attempts to produce a sport pony in one generation did not lead to success.
One problem I see with that is that there is such a high amount of Arabian influence in Haflingers anyhow, to cross a Haflinger and an arab pretty much yields…a Haflinger. In some countries, Haflinger breed shows have a division for those with a high % of Arabian blood, and they’re still registered as a division of the Haflinger. Haflingers (and Fjords too, I’d presume) are SO strong in throwing their own type, they’re really not so good for influencing unless you like the Haflinger pretty well on its own!
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http://www.goodpony.net/2004-Pictures-227.jpg
This is a HalflingerxArabian cross we sold. As she matured she became more Halflinger like. I think I would be careful in selecting a stallion with some solid limbs/feet as I don’t think I’d like a halfie body on too refined legs and feet.[/QUOTE]
Wow!!! I like.
How does the Haflinger society feel about the crosses? The Fjord society is very strict about outcrossing and will pull papers of any horses involved in outcrossing (which can be particularly bad for stallion owners…). So Fjord crosses are pretty much not a good thing to do with regard to the Fjord society 
Though you do see a few coming from the PMU farms…
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http://www.goodpony.net/2004-Pictures-227.jpg
This is a HalflingerxArabian cross we sold. As she matured she became more Halflinger like. I think I would be careful in selecting a stallion with some solid limbs/feet as I don’t think I’d like a halfie body on too refined legs and feet.[/QUOTE]
Do you mind if I ask what her name was, and her breeding?
I used to ride where that photo was taken, many years ago. She looks familiar to me
Her name was Chloe. She was about four when the photo was taken. I can’t remember now what her sires name was…but they did for a time have an association with that facility. Chloe injured her leg there about a week before we brought her home…ugh! When she arrived she had a bone infection in her knee. She was someones pet (maybe a little too imprinted?) and had been treated more like a child than a pony…it was quite annoying. She was an absolute blast to ride though.
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http://www.goodpony.net/2004-Pictures-227.jpg
This is a HalflingerxArabian cross we sold. As she matured she became more Halflinger like. I think I would be careful in selecting a stallion with some solid limbs/feet as I don’t think I’d like a halfie body on too refined legs and feet.[/QUOTE]
Oh my! What a CUTIE!
In the US, it is quite frowned upon. Especially recently with the whole North American Spotted Haflinger Association fiasco, so they really took a stand against crosses. However, the AHR isn’t so against as to pull papers on horses that have been bred to non-Haflingers!
Other countries vary, either discouraging it as well, or accepting Arab crosses at differing levels.
I have a lovely 6 year old Haflinger/Holsteiner cross. Her sire is Albany NTF and her dam is a Fraval (out of Franat) Holst. mare.
She is a “buckskin” bay, right at 15.2 and is solid and lovely; she looks like a warmblood, but has that sweet Haffie eye and face. We just finished 4th in her first Horse Trials in Aiken on a lovely 30.5 dressage score.
I bought her as a project, but haven’t ever seen other Haffie crosses that I would jump at. She is a gem!
I like Haffie Crosses better than Haflingers themselves–as far as sport ponies/horses go
Webber: (4 at the time) Westworld M&B x Quarter Pony Mare
http://www.warmbloods-for-sale.com/SoldHorseDetail.asp?HorseID=11060&UserID=2582
He was super…probably a keeper looking back. But he found a great home and was quoted as being: “hands down the best horse purchase our family has ever made”. Not too bad. If Westworld M&B were still a stallion I would probably consider him a possible match for my pony mare. Webber got the nice Haffie temperament (70% at his first dressage show TWO WEEKS under saddle) but was somewhat lighter in build (keep in mind the dam was a quarter pony) but over all much more athletic and versatile than his sire and built better for riding as opposed to driving.
I believe he was a half-brother to the Chloe mare goodpony posted about. I think they had the same sire. Westworld M&B was associated and did quite a bit of breeding out of Half Steps Farm before his owners severed ties with, um, that establishment.
old thread but i have a haffie cross
I have a 9 month old haflinger/thoroughbred colt
This is a very old thread, I’d be interested in seeing some of these horses now that they’re older. I have a purebred Haffie mare that is 7 now (I think, maybe 8). As a four year old she was a VERY lovely refined Haflinger. Haffies are NOT done growing at four. Although I still love her, she is a little TANK now! I’d be FAR more happy if she would have stayed her lovely, sporty, four year old self. 
We have two Haflinger crosses, the oldest is an absolutely amazing 6yo German Sport Pony/Haflinger cross, Valiant Voyager. He is currently being ridden by a 12yo girl BN eventing and they just finished 2nd on their dressage score in their first event together. Val has schooled training level and definitely has scope for Prelim and likely Intermediate even though he is “only” 14h (don’t tell him that, he is certain he is 17+). He LOVES to jump and has, on occasion, exited his 4’6" paddock to visit his girlfriend (a CIC*** mare). We would breed his mother back to Voyager in an instant if semen were available in the US.
His 1/2 brother (both out of our Haflinger mare) is a Hanno/Halflinger cross by Ridley. Being more dressage bred he has more expressive gaits than Val and is slightly larger. He, like Val and his mother, loves to jump.
Haflinger crosses make the best ponies IMHO, if only US buyers weren’t so prejudiced against size.
Just shared this on the dressage forum, but thought I would share here too since it shows how versatile and fun Haflingers can be. This is Cinderella SGF, my sister’s Haflinger. Photo credits of baby photos to Shady Grove.
