Heidi Degele competing in Amateur???

[soloudinhere]

@Manni01

Great to hear, I was told about by somebody who wasn’t even there that there was a discussion about it and that people thought she shouldnt ride in this class… and the OP mentioned as well… i quoted her post…

A few people gossiping in their barn or on facebook isn’t the same thing as “everybody” feels that way…I feel bad for Heidi that if she searches her name she will see this 7 page thread for someone who didn’t do anything wrong.

In general people should ride more and talk less. That definitely goes for FB as well.

[Manni01]

@soloudinhere

A few people gossiping in their barn or on facebook isn’t the same thing as “everybody” feels that way…I feel bad for Heidi that if she searches her name she will see this 7 page thread for someone who didn’t do anything wrong.

In general people should ride more and talk less. That definitely goes for FB as well.

I very much agree with you!!! I wish HD all the best and I think it’s horrible how these people gossip :(.

[alibi_18]

@Manni01

I very much agree with you!!! I wish HD all the best and I think it’s horrible how these people gossip :(.

Maybe you should warn your friend about it.

[iberianfan]

@Pennywell Bay not to hijack this thread, but I am in exactly the same spot! Good thoughts and advice about being happy for others. And, for you, just keep digging deeper and learning from your wonderful new horse.

[Manni01]

@alibi_18

Maybe you should warn your friend about it.

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[alibi_18]

@Manni01

??

I was told about by somebody who wasn’t even there that there was a discussion about it and that people thought she shouldnt ride in this class… and the OP mentioned as well… i quoted her post…

Someone gossiped to you.

Maybe you should tell that friend of yours about the FEI rules and about not gossiping.
Just a suggestion since you seem to have acquaintance in common with the OP.

[RainWeasley]

@Highflyer

Because people complained bitterly about the alternative-- that said, you know that under USEF rules you can transition from being a pro to an amateur if it’s been more a year since you did any professional activities, right? There’s a clearly laid out process, it’s a bit of a hassle but certainly not impossible.

Really? That’s good to know, if we ever actually get to do any real recognized shows!

[Manni01]

@alibi_18

Someone gossiped to you.

Maybe you should tell that friend of yours about the FEI rules and about not gossiping.
Just a suggestion since you seem to have acquaintance in common with the OP.

Honestly I enjoy to hear all the gossip :). And I believe that people are responsible for themselves… usually they know what they are doing…

[lorilu]

@RainWeasley

Personally, I much prefer the FEI Amateur than the USEF one. Under USEF, I qualify as a pro because I gave some lessons at a crappy horse camp for about a year because I needed a job. If I competed in dressage (which maybe i will get to one day), I have to be a pro, even though I can barely take my green horse around the dressage ring correctly one time and have NO idea what I’m doing. And that is honestly the same for most disciplines in the US, not just USEF. I’m not sure why our “professional” ended up being “anyone that might have gotten some kind of compensation for anything related to horses regardless of what discipline it is” (I know it’s a bit more detailed than that but generally speaking). Maybe they just wanted to make larger classes for the pros for whatever reason?

As for the OP…I totally understand why you feel the way you do. That being said, I do agree that you are playing by different rules in an international competition. Now you will know for the future. But just remember, if you read this, that just because someone is a “pro” in the US sense of the word doesn’t mean that you aren’t riding at their level. Take a bit of comfort in the fact that you are good enough to ride against a “pro”!

I believe camp counselors are exempt… check the rule.

[BigMama1]

@Manni01

No , Sorry maybe I worded it wrong… NONE of the rides knew That FEI rules are different from USEF rules otherwise there would have been no discussion

Oh so you think that post on FB used the FEI meaning of the word AA? Maybe you are right

I’m confused - where are you getting the idea that none of the riders in the class understood the FEI definition of amateur?

[Manni01]

@BigMama1

I’m confused - where are you getting the idea that none of the riders in the class understood the FEI definition of amateur?

Oh so you think they all did understand the difference and were still against a pro competing in their class?? Maybe you are right… but why would they dislike that idea?? Maybe we should all start to overthink who we like as competition and who we don’t like…

[Manni01]

@lorilu

I believe camp counselors are exempt… check the rule.

Isn’t that an amazing rule??? It really supports people without a lot of money.
It might be worth a seperate thread.

And just saying in Germany there are no pros and AAs in normal shows… everybody competes against everybody.
If you win or get into the ribbons you get ranking points.
And usually they divide classes according to the number of ranking points…

not sure whether it’s good or bad but it eliminates the word Shamateur.

[BigMama1]

@Manni01

Oh so you think they all did understand the difference and were still against a pro competing in their class?? Maybe you are right… but why would they dislike that idea?? Maybe we should all start to overthink who we like as competition and who we don’t like…

I think ONE rider misunderstood / disliked the rule, and chose to post about it here. Hopefully she now has a better understanding of how CDIs work.

I haven’t seen any evidence that the other riders in the class had any issues with it whatsoever. And given that at least one other rider (and maybe more) is a pro under the USEF definition, I doubt any of them did.

[Manni01]

@BigMama1

I think ONE rider misunderstood / disliked the rule, and chose to post about it here. Hopefully she now has a better understanding of how CDIs work.

I haven’t seen any evidence that the other riders in the class had any issues with it whatsoever. And given that at least one other rider (and maybe more) is a pro under the USEF definition, I doubt any of them did.

Maybe not, but I quoted what the OP wrote about it being discussed in Wellington, so obviously she was not the only one and I would assume that riders competing in that class were the ones most concerned with it… and as I said I heard from another source about it as well. But maybe I am overthinking it…

[alibi_18]

@Manni01

Maybe not, but I quoted what the OP wrote about it being discussed in Wellington, so obviously she was not the only one and I would assume that riders competing in that class were the ones most concerned with it… and as I said I heard from another source about it as well. But maybe I am overthinking it…

The OP and her friends, and your friend, gossiped.

They have nothing to do with the 9 other riders of that particular class…

Of the 10 AA riders in that class;

5 are USEF pro.
1 is an older German and his wife is on the FEI ranking.
1 is an older lady who is well known in the dressage community.
1 breed and bring her youngsters up the levels and has many awards with her many horses.

1 is Heidi.
1 is the OP.

The other riders were most certainly not concerned in any way about Heidi.

[Equibrit]

Any publicity is good publicity - right ? Heidi’s horse sales will probably improve.

[BigMama1]

@Manni01

Maybe not, but I quoted what the OP wrote about it being discussed in Wellington, so obviously she was not the only one and I would assume that riders competing in that class were the ones most concerned with it… and as I said I heard from another source about it as well. But maybe I am overthinking it…

That’s a lot of assumptions to make based on one line in one person’s post.

[Manni01]

@alibi_18

The OP and her friends, and your friend, gossiped.

They have nothing to do with the 9 other riders of that particular class…

Of the 10 AA riders in that class;

5 are USEF pro.
1 is an older German and his wife is on the FEI ranking.
1 is an older lady who is well known in the dressage community.
1 breed and bring her youngsters up the levels and has many awards with her many horses.

1 is Heidi.
1 is the OP.

The other riders were most certainly not concerned in any way about Heidi.

This is really getting too creepy for me

[SillyHorse]

@Manni01

Honestly I enjoy to hear all the gossip :).

Then, after a post stating facts, and naming no one but the person the OP named:

@Manni01

This is really getting too creepy for me

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Jealoushe]

Random question. If I show Eventing FEI, would I then not be able to show CDI ammy?

Also whoever mentioned Megan being a pro and showing ammy CDI there is true, she is a pro through and through so if she fits the rules I’m sure the other lady does too.