30? I saw 9, maybe 11 depending upon what belongs to whom.
And yes, she does lease/rent/otherwise use other acreage.
Really, the issue is that she doesn’t have 30 acres? 10?
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Stalker alert! 
I think someone said she used neighboring pastures of um… neighbors to also keep her horses.
I only really see speculations and mostly “she SEEMS” one way or the other.
I’m not interested in getting in a business deal with her being that I like my hard earned money, but I feel like all of this energy goes to waste when there are actual animals starved and abused right this very moment…
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I live in Florida, don’t breed warmbloods (or anything else for that matter any more), am not interested in buying anything and am hardly a stalker. Just reading an interesting thread and someone mentioned seeing her farm on Google maps so I decided to look (days later I might add). Just bored on a Friday night.
Not really hard to find as she lists her address on her website - copy and paste into Google and viola. I think stalker is a bit harsh.
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When I copy and pasted her address into Google maps it went right to her property. I magnified to the closest you could get and then counted. Including foals I got over 30 but some were hard to tell horse vs. shadow.
Easy to tell what is her property vs. other properties.
I will say there is not much green around her in neighboring farms either but lack of grass doesn’t bother me (I live in Florida with horses on hay all year around.). It is really the lack of space.
I did the same after I read your post. I had to wait for the program to download and install first as it was not something I had done before. At first I didn’t see any horses but zoomed in and counted 9. One foal. Maybe they are taken at different points in time? No grass but not the slightest bit crowded either. Nice house, nice pool.
Ah see I used google earth not maps. Definitely more horses on map than earth. They aren’t packed in like sardines though. Not something that I would get up in arms over assuming the horses looked ok to the naked eye as opposed to satellite.
Just wanted to point out that at least here, when I googled my own barn and the old barn I used to rent, the map pics were about a year and a half to two years old. I know that because in the old barn pics there is a mare standing in the pasture that was put down in sept 2010, and the pics of our new barn was little more than a bunch of piles of cinder blocks. So they may not be accurate as far as horse count. But that is really neither here not there in respect to the OP’s situation. Just thought I’d mention.
If you google my barn you see the posts laid out for the footers. No barn at all even though I have been there over two years and the barn has been there at least 5.
Ok so I was not using Google Earth - was using Google Maps - my mistake.
I just googled my own farm and a run in barn we built a year ago is there so not sure how often they update but it looks like it is different in different areas.
I just googled ours, Laurel Leaf Farm, and it looked GREAT! The eight acre farmette was lucky enough to have it’s pic taken in the summer or spring. If it googled the way it looks in February, it would show as yellow-tan, grass eaten to the nubs, divots all over. Lucky that underneath is a very good root system waiting to turn everything green and lush in a normal spring!
I lived in Southern CA on 4 acres with five horses for a year and am here to say that the sandy soil up in Garner Valley near Idlewild would NOT hold grass roots once horses were on it for more than five minutes. We fenced a few paddocks when we leased the place for 9 months, fencing on pretty lawn and in about five minutes we had dirt, then dirt mixed with droppings blowing particulate matter all over the neighbors’ homes. There is no shame in a well-fenced dirt lot, but I did take the horses out to hand graze, they had good bedding in the center aisle barn, good feed, good orchard/alfalfa blend and good exercise.
It’s not about the size of the place. It’s about the quality of the care. The only way an outsider can judge that is by the condition of the horses.
My horses are in the bottom left of the tan part! Have been for two years, one was born there. Lotsa green because there are no horses. Now there are 33 I believe so the green is sparser but still there when it’s warm. Neither the indoor or the huge outdoor are visible nor the cross country field out back. If you scroll toward the top right you can see Bonita Farm.
http://maps.google.com/?ll=39.587567,-76.211257&spn=0.008037,0.020771&t=h&z=16
Just installed Google Earth. The picture of GFF on there was taken on 10/24/2009. My farm’s pic was taken on 1/12/2011. There is a button at the top with a clock on it that will show you different pictures on different dates if you scroll back. The most recent is automatically shown.
The Goolge Maps version which shows different numbers of horses per above was taken Sept 14 , 2011 just had to enable status bar to see the date the image was taken.
This has gone a bit off topic, but omg, you guys made me download Google Earth :lol: I looked up my ranch - we have plenty of space (100 acres) and less horses then Jill (roughly 20), but it is still pretty brown by October. Much of CA isn’t irrigated - our water goes toward food crops, not horses. I’d complain except we do have some of the best produce in the world 
Anyway, brown, chewed down pastures are the norm in CA (and many other states) in the Summer and Fall - that wouldn’t worry me. IF her foals are raised in little paddocks, well that isn’t so great. But until people have actually seen her facility, including outlying leased pasture, is it really fair to make judgement on horse husbandry?
I realize there is much more then just horse husbandry going on here - just feel that it has become a bit of a witch hunt at this point - finding everything that MIGHT be wrong?
OP, update us - what is going on with your mare? Is she on her way back home?
Yikes just looked up our farm on Google Earth and the house is not there! This means it has not been updated for approx. 6 years! Also must have been winter or early spring because everything is barren and yucky… With 80 plus acres and 30 horses we always have beautiful lush pastures. Got to love Pa.
Way off topic too - and really hope the OP gets horse back.
Satellite maps can be purchased – well, for a huge variety of dates when taken. There are businesses that sell the most up-to-date ones for lots of $$$ and older ones for cheaper. A map of a large area (earth) is constructed,so its often necessary to use a variety of older and newer maps – software programs can soften the edges into mostly matching. One of the above posters noted to right click on photo to see the GFF and it had a date – that date may or may not be correct. Searching hard enough you can find out where the actual date is. Local govts are also making these maps available for their jurisdictions - esp. the property tax depts. My city has them available online.
From a distance, areas tend to look drier and more sparse than is reality. Its just a function of capturing the image – sorta like how pics make everyone look 10 pounds heavier (and abused, starved animals slightly healthier than reality.) You will notice your own property looks less vegetated than reality – really disconcerting. Looking at the barn in question, the adjacent barns give the real clue: the barn we are looking at is in much poorer condition than the neighbors.
Oh that was fun! Ours is a little old since much has been added since then but fun to see that 
We are very lucky to be on 3000 acres here in CA
eek. Have you looked in any mirrors lately and do you cast a shadow?
btw: looking at google maps - the images are current within the last year. i know because i used to live literally around the corner from the property being discussed and i know what the images looked like when i lived there, what the looked like last year etc.
pps - google totally creeps me out that we can do this and totally spy on people
Has the owner just fallen off the face of the earth here? I hope all this has been worked out and the mare either has or is making her way home.
Update please…
I have no dog in this fight but I do wonder one thing…
If Jill owes money to so many different people/organizations, why havn’t they banded together to force an involuntary bankruptsy?
