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Goat.[/QUOTE]
Is this a statement or a question? :lol:
That horse IS a goat. Ate most of a 50lb sack of corn, a bale of alfalfa, and I don’t know how much Triple Crown Complete. Vetted her pretty hard and heavy and soon as we caught her…and she had ZERO ill effects.
And SE, I wanted clarification if you understood what I’d posted. You’d rather be a smart ass, that’s your choice.
Thanks sublime. 
No, it isn’t back to normal yet. I think it was just too much use (too many days of riding) with too much heat/sweat. I’ve read about the Zilco breastcollars rubbing like that too but I’ve never had that problem so I was really surprised. But she’s doing really well in this bit so I’ll carry on with this path for a while.
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Thanks sublime. No, it isn’t back to normal yet. I think it was just too much use (too many days of riding) with too much heat/sweat. I’ve read about the Zilco breastcollars rubbing like that too but I’ve never had that problem so I was really surprised. But she’s doing really well in this bit so I’ll carry on with this path for a while.[/QUOTE]
I’m glad you found a bit she likes. I use Corona on my mare whenever she gets peely or scurfy (she’s got sensitive skin so I have to deal with it more often than I’d like :dead: ), it works pretty quickly.
I’ve never tried Corona but I’ve heard so many good things, I’ll have to give it a try.
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I’ve never tried Corona but I’ve heard so many good things, I’ll have to give it a try.[/QUOTE]
It’s great stuff. Inexpensive, and really keeps the skin soft so that the peeling stops and keeps things from getting chapped. The only downside to it really for me is that it attracts dirt, so every day when I use it I have to clean the area super-good, then reapply a “fresh layer” of it. :lol:
I like it too because it’s really thick, so it doesn’t run if the horse is outside in the rain, or if it’s warm out.
Ok, I’m just giving a quick update, now that I’ve had time to try out the low side pull on Jazz (I didn’t get the Parelli halter – the seller flaked out at the last minute).
I have to say that Jazzy really likes it. He’s been good as gold, despite my attempts to rile him a bit to see how effective it is. So I haven’t been able to test it when he’s being a jerk (which on rare occasions he can be – stubborn and stiff and bracing). He gives to it nicely, doesn’t seem to mind the tension on his nose or sides at all. He’s responsive, and very relaxed in it (more so, oddly, then when I ride him in a halter and lead rope). So we like it. But because he’s not ready to hit the trail yet (we’re just getting him fit in my ring, around the property and my neighbor’s field) and he’s been strangely happy (Jazz tends to be a bit grumpy by nature) it hasn’t been truly tested.
My gut tells me that while this is a keeper, maybe we need to try something with just a wee bit more control for when we hit the trail.
So any suggestions for the next step, that won’t cost me a ton?
Bumping this up for opinions on an affordable next try…
Personally, I would give the englsh or cloverleaf hackamore a try. It is inexpensive, has a leather nosepiece that is padded with fleece. My old 1/2 arab went great in it. I rode him the last 18 years of his life in it. He died at the age of 25. His little sister goes great in hers. She is very quick and responsive, but much happier than in any bit that i tried. She also has a low pallet, like her brother, so most bits were quite uncomfortable. The hackamore runs around 20.00 at most tack stores.
My answer is unchanged from my original posting(s).
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Thanks Gabz for the link :). I’m still researching, and trying to find used options to buy and try out.
So far I’ve got a Parelli hackamore coming, and an indian hackamore that I can borrow to try out.
I really would like to try a bitless bridle (Dr. Cooks), but they are just too expensive and I can’t seem to find any used.
Any opinions on an English jumping hackamore? Not that we’ll be doing any jumping, but it looks simple, not harsh, would attach nicely to his existing bridle, and I found a used one cheap. :D[/QUOTE]
i wouldnt reccomend any hackmore as it works on the most sensitve part of the horse
ie the bridge of his nose its a severe bitless peice of equipment and only to be used by expreince hands if used incorrectly you can cut of his airways and i certainly wouldnt reccomend it for a novice rider either to use in work schooling or jumping
if yu want the horse to b more obediant then go back to basics and learn to ride the horse from butt to poll to a relaxed yaw via schooling the horse in the corrct manner
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i wouldnt reccomend any hackmore as it works on the most sensitve part of the horse
ie the bridge of his nose its a severe bitless peice of equipment and only to be used by expreince hands if used incorrectly you can cut of his airways and i certainly wouldnt reccomend it for a novice rider either to use in work schooling or jumping
if yu want the horse to b more obediant then go back to basics and learn to ride the horse from butt to poll to a relaxed yaw via schooling the horse in the corrct manner[/QUOTE]
You can only obstruct breathing if the hackamore is placed too low on the nose. And some styles of bitless setups are extremely forgiving, even moreso I’d say than a snaffle. A sidepull is a good example of this.
And a lot of people jump bitless, there are quite a few famous show jumpers that go in :GASP!: mechanical hackamores. :lol:
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You can only obstruct breathing if the hackamore is placed too low on the nose. And some styles of bitless setups are extremely forgiving, even moreso I’d say than a snaffle. A sidepull is a good example of this.
And a lot of people jump bitless, there are quite a few famous show jumpers that go in :GASP!: mechanical hackamores. :lol:[/QUOTE]
yes that correct there are famous show jumpers that jump in hackamores but then thye are more expreinced than the average joe bloggs
[QUOTE=goeslikestink;3606042]
i wouldnt reccomend any hackmore as it works on the most sensitve part of the horse
ie the bridge of his nose its a severe bitless peice of equipment and only to be used by expreince hands if used incorrectly you can cut of his airways and i certainly wouldnt reccomend it for a novice rider either to use in work schooling or jumping
if yu want the horse to b more obediant then go back to basics and learn to ride the horse from butt to poll to a relaxed yaw via schooling the horse in the corrct manner[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the feedback on the jumping hackamore GLS, I’ll keep it in mind. If you read the thread you would know that I’m not a novice rider, that we’re certainly not planning on jumping in it (Jazz is recovering from an injury and will only be able to do very light riding), and that he is well trained and a good horse who knows “the basics” better than me. He has TMJ issues and since he’s so good and we’ll really just be puttering around (and I’ve been riding him for the past year in just a halter and lead rope), I’m looking for a very mild hackamore to use out on trail that will give me a small amount of control if he has a difficult moment.
I’m actually thinking right now that I’ll look for a sidepull that isn’t made of rope…
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Thanks for the feedback on the jumping hackamore GLS, I’ll keep it in mind. If you read the thread you would know that I’m not a novice rider, that we’re certainly not planning on jumping in it (Jazz is recovering from an injury and will only be able to do very light riding), and that he is well trained and a good horse who knows “the basics” better than me. He has TMJ issues and since he’s so good and we’ll really just be puttering around (and I’ve been riding him for the past year in just a halter and lead rope), I’m looking for a very mild hackamore to use out on trail that will give me a small amount of control if he has a difficult moment.
I’m actually thinking right now that I’ll look for a sidepull that isn’t made of rope…[/QUOTE]
horse.com has a nylon one that has I think a cotton nose for $20. Or if you wanted something fancy, there’s a few places that make one with a leather nose, but those are pretty expensive.
They also have rawhide nose ones, but I don’t really think those are any less abrasive than rope.
I’ve written quite a bit about riding bitless. If you’re interested, here are some of my articles:
On the Bit(less) Bridle: A Comparison
[URL=“http://equineink.wordpress.com/reviews/lg-bitless-bridle/”]LG Bitless Bridle offers Calibrated Control
Dr. Cook’s Bitless Bridle: Will a Cross Under Design Work for your Horse?
[URL=“http://equineink.wordpress.com/2008/05/20/micklem-multibridle-side-pull-configuration/”]
Micklem Multibridle Side Pull Configuration
[URL=“http://equineink.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/micklem-multibridle-medium-and-strong-bitless-configurations/”]Micklem Multibridle Medium and Strong Configurations
Which type of bitless bridle you use depends on how your horse responds to pressure on his head. Some do better with poll pressure, others do better with a side pull; others with some curb action. It also depends on whether you want to ride with contact.
Among the true mechanical hackamores, I prefer the Little S but wrap the rope in fleece.
Thanks for the links, Bogie!
