Help me pick a stallion that meets this criteria...

[butiwantedapony]

I have a super mare I have decided to breed. She is an 11 year old maiden TB by Good N’Tough. 16.3, perfect conformation, huge floaty mover, and a catty athletic jump. She is hot but not crazy. All around nice mare that I would be thrilled to have a carbon copy of.

What I want is a sire who throws:

• bone. my mare is very refined and I’d like to add bone.
• temperament. I’m breeding for an amateur friendly horse and while my mare isn’t crazy the next one needs to be less spicy.

additionally I of course want to normal things - size, good movement, looks. Goal for this horse will be a dressage horse priamorly but I like to jump and also do low level eventing and some hunters.

Thoughts?

[butiwantedapony]

I’ll add that I don’t want to breed to a TB, but not terribly breed specific otherwise. I have looked at Cleveland Bays and IRish Draughts because I want to add the bone and mind but having trouble finding ones that I think will produce the movement I want.

[Didi]

Cunningham
Crown Affair (even though he is more hunter-y)
Sir Caletto

[siegi_b]

Soprano… it’s also a pleasure to deal with his owner, Alain Seheut.

[folly]

Sambertino’s offspring have excellent character & compete across the disciplines.

[beowulf]

If dressage, I second Soprano. I also really like Schroeder and have had my eye on his progeny for a while. He’s very consistent w type and movement and can/did jump well.

[MuskokaLakesConnemaras]

What about a connemara? Temperament and athletic ability with sanity added

[SnicklefritzG]

[QUOTE=MuskokaLakesConnemaras;8102153]
What about a connemara? Temperament and athletic ability with sanity added ;)[/QUOTE]

I have to admit I popped into this thread just because of the title - “If I had a brain”…lol

I’ve found it to be educational. Even though I don’t have a mare to breed, I am beginning to think about a 2nd horse, except a young one, so am reading about the different stallions with interest to see what kind of babies they throw.

@Muskoka: you are right! There are a lot of very nice connemaras out there and some of them can really jump!! I know of several who clean up at AEC

[Ajierene]

I bred my mare to Welfenkonig II. I was had bone and temperment at the top of my list as well. My mare is fine, but I did not want a difficult baby, if possible.

So far the filly has shown great promise in dressage and loves to jump. She will be 4 in June and is aimed towards eventing. While she is still a bit young to say to much, she show great promise both in dressage and jumping. Most of Welfenkonig II’s foals have been aimed towards dressage. He has not done as much as I would like, but his offspring are showing a lot of promise. The oldest is 6, I think.

[Anne]

Legaczy would give you bone and add size (sometimes a lot of size)! They have very amateur-friendly temperaments, too.

[horsetales]

[QUOTE=butiwantedapony;8100829]
I’ll add that I don’t want to breed to a TB, but not terribly breed specific otherwise. I have looked at Cleveland Bays and IRish Draughts because I want to add the bone and mind but having trouble finding ones that I think will produce the movement I want.[/QUOTE]

Not sure which ones you looked at, but thought I would highlight a few that were doing quite well in dressage. There are 3 IDs competing in UL dressage. Steeped in Luck has been in Wellington competing GP - just got a 66-67 score; Lionwood Kinsales Lad is I1 and Bridon Beale Street is PSG along with advanced eventing. KEC Double Diamond went to 4th I believe

[DownYonder]

Look at the Hanoverian stallion Landkonig. You will probably not get international quality dressage movement, but gaits good enough for either basic dressage or hunters. Along with size, bone, jumping ability, and tractable temperaments.

[SnicklefritzG]

[QUOTE=DownYonder;8102699]
Look at the Hanoverian stallion Landkonig. You will probably not get international quality dressage movement, but gaits good enough for either basic dressage or hunters. Along with size, bone, jumping ability, and tractable temperaments.[/QUOTE]

I know one person who has a Landkonig baby and is going nuts waiting to get it started. Their plan is for the hunters, but the youngster is nice enough it could do dressage also.

[crosscreeksh]

Instead of a pure RID…I’d look at some part TB, ISH stallions. We LOVE our 3/4 TB-1/4 RID, Irish Sport Horses. We’re getting looks, conformation, movement and quiet brains…all amounting to “user friendly”!!

[winter]

Apiro.
I got a rideable very quiet mare with substantially more bone than her mother. Exceptional mover and jumper.

[TKR]

A friend of mine just had a Schwarzenegger colt out of a smaller, lighter framed TK/Arab mare. The colt is big, much bigger bone and frame and a sweetheart. REALLY nice baby! I’ve heard good things about him and he seems to be a stallion that can do dressage and jump, good pedigree, just under the radar. He is in Canada, so you can get fresh.
PennyG

[stripes]

[QUOTE=DownYonder;8102699]
Look at the Hanoverian stallion Landkonig. You will probably not get international quality dressage movement, but gaits good enough for either basic dressage or hunters. Along with size, bone, jumping ability, and tractable temperaments.[/QUOTE]

I bred to Landkoenig and got a colt with exceptional gaits very suited for Dressage. The dam has very good gaits and was a dressage mare. I think many Landkoenigs could do very well in dressage, they just happen to be willing and able to jump the moon so that’s what they end up doing. I’ve seen so many of his get out of many different mares and they all have very kind ammy friendly dispositions - you can pretty much count on that

[Credosporthorses]

[QUOTE=horsetales;8102617]
Not sure which ones you looked at, but thought I would highlight a few that were doing quite well in dressage. There are 3 IDs competing in UL dressage. Steeped in Luck has been in Wellington competing GP - just got a 66-67 score; Lionwood Kinsales Lad is I1 and Bridon Beale Street is PSG along with advanced eventing. KEC Double Diamond went to 4th I believe[/QUOTE]

I have ridden a Steeped in Luck baby. Holy wow!!! But if your mare is hot he’s not going to cool her down. But will certainly give beautiful bone and movement/jump.

[Megaladon]

[QUOTE=folly;8102092]
Sambertino’s offspring have excellent character & compete across the disciplines.[/QUOTE]

Does Peterson & Smith distribute his frozen semen?

[JB]

Gatsby. He does everything you want - puts great Ammy temperament on, adds bone to lighter mare, is really good on TB mares, add some suspension if they are a little flatter in movement but doesn’t really change the mare’s movement (ie if she moves like a Hunter he’s not going to put knee action on). He’s got lots of kids out there doing Eventing and most of them move and jump well enough for Hunters, and of course they also do some Dressage, either as part of Eventing or as the separate discipline.