Hempfling - Different approach to being with horses

So is he now channeling his inner Clinton Anderson? Sorry. That is a stupid way to lunge a horse. I believe in the training scale and a natural progression of training aids. Any horse trained that way would have to go back to the beginning to get rid what it has learned to do. Which is nothing useful. The more I see from him the less I would want him around any of my horses.

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But he could train your horses to rear so they could truly express themselves! Surely you don’t want to miss that opportunity. :wink:

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Sorry, can’t help jumping in.

I’d be more impressed with the training of the stallion if the horse wasn’t sporting an enormous erection the whole time. That stallion has not been taught to ignore mares and do his job under saddle.

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I don’t have any opinion of these videos. I don’t have any need for these “skills”, never did have any need for them. None of this translates into getting through a jump course with the rails still up AND with no time faults, making whatever distance you get to that dreaded single oxer on the diagonal away from the out gate look like it was what you wanted on a Hunter, completing a Reining pattern without a major deduction or nailing the PP transition and the two tempis.

It does not translate to success in serious riding or competition. I can and have taught a horse to rear but
its a worthless skill in a riding horse and can be dangerous on the ground.

But go ahead and get that click count up, they don’t need to like what they see, just click.

Opening the wine.

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Lol. I’m sorry is this thread for real??? Let’s watch a “Maestro” C**k block a stallion and call it training :crazy_face:. It just keeps getting better and better. I keep waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out and tell us all we are being punk’d.

And honestly what exactly is this guy teaching the horse to do? Listen up. Horses need a purpose. They are thousand pound pets. Not some mastabatory slow mo reel of complete and utter bs. Goodness I can’t stop laughing at the world salad of :poop:

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Yup. This kind of makes explicit a great deal of the weird sexuality underlying the Stallion Fantasy. It’s not just metaphorically “horse porn” like we say “food porn.” It’s literally horse porn.

Before this feed started I had no opinion of Hempfling. Now I am pretty sure he is an idiot in regards to horses, and I wouldn’t trust his human potential work because anyone with this big a blind spot to his own effectiveness is not a reliable mentor in anything.

And yes, I do now thing it’s Hempfling posting. I didn’t at first because the OP sounded so naive but now that I see Hempfling videos, I think he is likely just as naive.

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Yeah the exalting of a close up video of a mare winking 
and thinking that riding a horny stallion in her presence as a testament to some weird power over horses (and what was the weird Power Ranger pew pew shooting of energy hahahaha). is somehow making the world a better place for equestrians and equids everywhere is truly :face_vomiting:. Dude please just stop.

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Seriously? I can do that, and I’m not a very good rider. I was taught how to do this by a teenage instructor. Horses respond to body language–we all know that.

Rebecca

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I agree with everything you posted about Round Penning 101. But I have to ask: When you round pen a horse, do you have majickal energy space lasers firing from your body? Because after watching that video, I’m thinking that maybe that’s what’s needed to be an equine demi-god.

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I think the space laser noises are game changing.

My Highland can be tricky to catch if you’re not one of his usual crew, who are out of town this week. His substitute human failed to catch him, so I had to drop work and schlep to the barn to deal. He was in defensive mode, so he ran away from me (he usually comes to call when you’re one of his ‘people’). I did a bit of join-up, round pen type stuff. Despite the large field, he moved around me in a circle until he agreed to the join up*, and I got the halter on. In hindsight, I should have video’d it and made laser noises.

*Using that term loosely. I don’t send a horse away who wants to be with me, especially when all I want to do is catch it. But if the horse isn’t letting me near him with a headcollar, then I will keep his feet moving, ideally in a low key way (if their adrenaline is up and they are in flight/fight mode, everything is harder), and taking away all pressure when he shows any sign of stopping and looking at me or any calming signal. That means slouching, looking away from the horse. It is all body language. Yours and theirs. ‘Walking a horse down’ is another common phrase for this. It’s not magic, but it’s using your energy and body language, and I imagine any experienced horseperson on this forum will know exactly what I am talking about. None of this stuff is revolutionary.

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All aboard!

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If you want examples of real masters of training horses bareback and without a bridle, look at the Plains Indians of North America.

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Sorry but you are incorrect. The stallion is rearing on cue. It’s a trick it’s been trained. A well versed horse person can see this.

My story was showing how common it is to have stallions well behaved around mares. Trained by other professionals with better results.

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Ok now I think this might be a troll :joy:

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The “expressing themselves” refrain cracks me up. I own three mares - two are Arabians and one is a Half Arabian. Trust me, they have NO problem expressing themselves at any moment in time!

And yet, all of them, even the yearling, knows how to perform basic equine tasks like being caught, standing tied, loading, clipping, and moving in response to body language. It took me less than 2 minutes to teach the yearling to “longe” (i.e. move around me in response to my cues), and I don’t even own a round pen.

The ability to read horses and manipulate their responses via body language takes observation, practice, and good instincts. But it isn’t some mystical skill that requires specialized training far away from horses.

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Trying to get more clicks on the ASTONISHING videos :roll_eyes:

And drum up conversation since the Facebook post is crickets considering the millions of followers.

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Why’s it always stallions with these showmen? In the age of the internets, does that myth of the “wild, untameable stallion who responds only to the magickal energy of gifted horsemen” persist? Really?

I’m much more impressed by someone who manages to reach an agreement with a contrary mare who isn’t having any of the woo and nonsense.

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“My master”? Really?

As for advertising on Facebook that someone (who refers to this guy as “My Master”) started a thread about him on COTH, which isn’t buying his “masterness” for an instant, well, for some people bad publicity is better that none.

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I’ve noticed that a lot of the “video cowboy trainers” rarely if ever work with mares!

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This whole thread has such a weird vibe. The OP keeps saying that we’re big meanies who can’t understand geniuses when we see them. And yet they keep adding videos and asking us to discuss them. We discuss them and the OP thinks we’re big meanies
 and so on and soon and so on. :roll_eyes:

On the practical side, I rank teaching a horse to rear a close second on the stupidity scale to teaching them to play chase. Unintended consequences of both can result in a truly dangerous horse with a habit that’s nearly impossible to fix.

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