I am at a loss. My gorgeous imported horse started bleeding from nose and mouth after short run in paddock 10days after being imported. AGent/seller claimed it NEVER happened in Europe. Happened Several times in short span of time. After getting Diagnosis by leading specialists in field they said was a chronic untreatable, progressive condition rendering the horse unsafe. Seller/agent says NEVER happened to them. I would love to have recourse. The poor horse did not make it:((. Diagnosis Chronic, severe exercise induced pulmonary hemmorhage…heartbreaking…
No advice, just hugs 
I’m so sorry
Can I ask what the diagnosis was?
Did you have the horse vetted?
What is condition?
Was the horse insured?
I’m sorry, horses are so fragile sometimes.
Did you do any vet exams before buying?
Did you have insurance?
What does your contract say?
Unfortunately, bad things happen and I wouldn’t look to blame anyone. I had a horse die a terrible death too, it is part of the game.
ETA_ posting at the same time. too funny
Stage 4 EIPH. Exercise induced pulmonary hemmorhage:((
Fully vetted. EIPH.
I know someone who lost a horse to guttural pouch mycosis with what sounds like similar symptoms. Her horse was in regular work and was never symptomatic until it suddenly hemorrhaged fatally. I would imagine that the stress of being shipped might contribute, but the seller might well not have known.
Yeah my money is on GPM not EIPH. They do not bleed out of the mouth with EIPH and rarely bleed visibly at all out of the nose even when the bleeding is severe. I have many times seen a horse rated a 10 out of 10 when scoped after a race who had no visible signs externally. I am sorry for your loss.
In this particular case his ‘pouches’ were clean. And that’s exactly why they suggested no riding:((( sorry for friends loss. Stress of travel not factor. This was chronic scarring…
That is strange, it is so rare that EIPH is fatal even among racehorses. Plus they usually don’t bleed unless working very strenuously which one hopes you weren’t doing days after importation. if truly a fatal hemorrhage from relatively mild work I’d have to wonder if there was an underlying cause. I can readily believe that the previous owners didn’t know.
Racetrack rules vary about bleeders but in many countries they don’t permit them to canter for several months after the first episode. then if they continue bleeding they get banned. However it usually isn’t fatal to those horses because it only comes out when under race-like conditions, they can be fine in sport or just in the pasture if they have an easy job.
What kind of riding brought on the episodes? did a vet see the horse after the first one? why wasn’t resting recommended? I’m puzzled by this story as it doesn’t seem to match my experiences with bleeders, but very sorry for the outcome.
Yes it was EIPH. Severe, chronic. Doesn’t get any worse:((
A terrible story. It was a WB. Turnout triggered the bleeds. He was in small paddock. Only got about 5-7 strides before he stopped, coughed and bled. NOT normal in warmbloods…at all…
So sorry for your loss. I hope you have some recourse. I would think the sellers would have known of such condition.
Your best bet will be to consult veterinarians/have a necropsy done to see if you can prove it must have been obvious to the previous owners.
then you’d have to hire a European attorney and have the case evaluated under their equine laws, which I know zero about, to know whether you have a case against the seller or not. Generally speaking you won’t be able to sue them locally because the courts won’t have jurisdiction, IF they are located in Europe and sell the horses there. If they have a base in your state it might be different.
I am so sorry for your loss…
several years ago we tried to legally deal with a German PPE issue. It was nearly impossible to do from the US without putting a lot of money and time into it. We ended up cutting our losses, but it was expensive and frustrating.
If you pursue that, good luck.
We always insured horses for import. Hopefully that is the case in this situation, though getting your $ back won’t bring your wonderful horse back.
once again, I’m so sorry.
Was he insured?
Something smells fishy…
I am so sorry for your loss. I pray for strength and peace for you.
Which country in Europe he came from? What breed was he? And how old?
