Hotblood x Coldblood = Warmblood?

Heck- Alex is even a horse person. He owns a thoroughbred farm here in California.

I think it’s more likely that they were looking for a simple question with a simple answer, which this, obviously, is not. That said, I probably would’ve answered the question the same way (“warmblood”). How much would I have won, hitchinmygetalong?

Okay, so now my head has officially exploded from TOO MUCH INFORMATION!

I’m still freaked out that someone, somewhere out there in the realms of Internet-space, is labeling Morgans (and Appaloosas, for crying out loud) “warmbloods!”

I’m finding the debate a bit tedious at this point. Suffice it to say that some people have VERY strong opinions on this debate and will not be swayed from said opinions. I admire the thorough research some have done on the “warmblood issue” and have found this all to be very educational.

I’ll just stick with my Morgans, thank you very much. I’ll leave the warmbloods to the experts!

“I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning to sail my ship.”
-Louisa May Alcott

So the answer should have been, “what’s a great marketing ploy?”

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>There is a vast difference between the two, and I think it can be misleading at the least for breeders and owners of draft / TB types to refer to their horses as “warmbloods” - what they really have are draft / TB crosses. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Darn it. So I really don’t have a warmblood. Oh well. I just tell people that he is an overgrown Thelwell pony anyway, so it doesn’t really matter.

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Is an ISH considered a warmblood? That is, is an Irish Draft a real draft or a coach type horse? I’d guess coach type, but I honestly don’t know. I’m being serious. I’ve really been been wondering…

I think I am actually getting somewhere on these applications…but then again I may be lying to myself.
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Delighted - TB’s can be registered as Danish Warmbloods if either the dam or the sire was a DWB as well.

No way am I getting back into this one!!!

Perhaps the 14.5 reference was meant to be 14 hands 2 inches (14 1/2 hands). Not very horsey, but it’s more logical than a 5 inch hand.

European Warmblood = MARKETING PLOY!

Wasn’t it BRILLIANT!!!

In a more indepth sense, Europeans were simply trying to improve their native breeds of horses with heavy doses of outside blood (i.e. Thoroughbred, Shagya, Trakehner, other European Warmbloods) to produce outstanding riding horses capable of Olympic caliber performance. They succeeded because of the inspection/performance process they put in place in all of the registries over there. Of course, very knowlegeable horseman were involved in this endeavor.

It’s quite that simple. Not rocket science here, folks.

'Course, they’ve created quite a lucrative market for themselves by now; certainly don’t want to share that pie! Which is why the majority of imported American-bred warmbloods don’t become “elite” stallions and mares within their stud books. Sheesh; the majority of them aren’t even accepted as breeding stock! Jokes on us.

Like I said; ain’t rocket science people. Not even bothering to put a flame suit on.

<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Nattie:
I think that technically, any horse from draft desent (sp??) is considered a warmblood. Because all horses that are usually considered “warmbloods” have drafts as their ancestors, and they have, over decades, evolved into “todays” warmblood/sport horse. A lady at the farm has a Percheron/TB cross and bought it advertised as a warmblood… I personally consider warmbloods to be sport horses… like what they breed in Germany (hanoverians, holsteiners, trekhaners, oldenburgs, etc.
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Oh my lord…

No. None of the European Warmbloods descended from draft stock. You might want to do a bit of research indepthly.

Also, your friend’s horse is a TB/Percheron cross. I can advertise a chicken as a cow but that doesn’t make it one!

Susie

I think the correct term would be a Warm-Blood…real warmbloods are like the hanoverians, holsteiners, etc…from what I know, Hotblood/Coldblood crosses are just that…hehe…for a while I was convinced my 1/4 clydesdale 3/4 tb mare was an “American Warmblood”…in truth that’s just a name given to just about all draft crosses. Don’t take my word for it though, I’m no expert!!

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<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jjsmom:
OK, I tried to stay out of it. But there is something wrong with the Olympics being used as the goal and defining factor of European Warmblood breeding…

The Hanoverian studbook was opened in 1888, BEFORE the 1st modern Olympic games were held in 1896 in Athens. Does anyone contend Hanoverians aren’t Warmbloods under either the hot + cold definition, or the sporthorse capital “W” warmblood definition? No. Olympic aspirations cannot be “the” defining feature of what is a warmblood. There were no Olympics when most of the warmblood breeds were developed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh, thank you. I was reading that, and rereading it, and wondering about the precognitive ability of those who started the registries, and couldn’t quite figure out HOW they figured out that there would be modern Olympics, much less which sports would be in there. I mean, I know the Europeans are good, but I didn’t think they were THAT good.

But hey, what do I know? I have a Dutch WB… (well, and a TB and an App. Can they be warmbloods too?)

Note to self: don’t leg yeild into the electric fence.

devildog–

What are you talkin’ about???

Know nothing about that!


WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?

“I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning to sail my ship.”
-Louisa May Alcott

So I have a Han/TB cross, registered CSHA.

That makes him a Canadian warmblood Cross…

Most people who go around fanning the flames of crises are themselves the problem.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class=“ip-ubbcode-quote”><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SERAPH:
Curious George–

What’s more, you know even less about TASHR’s breeding program. !<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Considering that I’ve visited that registry’s site about 5 times in the past year, and have seen 5 different breeding ‘goals’ and ‘standards’, not to mention 5 different sets of ‘approved’ stallions, I’m not surprised CG is a bit confused when it comes to your registry. Frankly, so am I :stuck_out_tongue:

So my Andalusian/Thoroughbred cross, with 7/8 Andalusian and 1/8 Thoroughbred would be…what? A roomtemperatureblood?


Her vocabulary was as bad as, like, whatever.

Hitch- made Nattie have to be the stubborn warmblood she is! (more like a chestnut mare!)

~~Nattie~~
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I think that technically, any horse from draft desent (sp??) is considered a warmblood. Because all horses that are usually considered “warmbloods” have drafts as their ancestors, and they have, over decades, evolved into “todays” warmblood/sport horse. A lady at the farm has a Percheron/TB cross and bought it advertised as a warmblood… I personally consider warmbloods to be sport horses… like what they breed in Germany (hanoverians, holsteiners, trekhaners, oldenburgs, etc.

~~Nattie~~
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Warmblood (Hanoverian) Clique

Another question- is a Fresian considered a warmblood?