Hunter/Jumper Stallion With Big Booty & Short Coupling?

I’m keeping my eyes open for Hunter or Jumper stallions with a shorter back and big hip. Something with some substance but not over 16.2HH is my preference; more of an “old” body style WB. Ideally, a well laid back shoulder and chrome is always a plus. Use of the shoulder would be nice, as well as a tighter front end over fences.

I’m not in the market to be breeding right now, so i’m generally just “looking” for the time being. Because she has only been bred to Thoroughbreds, a stallion with proven get on the ground is a huge asset.

So far all the up and coming stallions like Amazing are lacking the hind end/back i’m looking for, and other stallions such as Escudo just don’t appeal to me. While the mare in question is very sweet and quiet, it’s ideal said stallion isn’t excessively hot.

Must be RPSI approved in the least. Standing in Canada would be a huge asset as well.

So … share away please!! Thanks in advance :slight_smile:

Balt’Amour is everything that you are looking for.
Www.MarabetFarm.com

Chaleon is one to look at:
http://crookedwillowfarms.com/horseDetail.do?keyName=Chaleon

Banderas, I got a solid colt out of a TB dam.

Banderas
http://www.dreamscapefarm.com/HorseDetail.aspx?ID=289

Viva Voltaire
http://www.charlotfarm.com/2008%20Viva.htm

Balt’amour & Chaleon are two contenders.

While VV has an impressive roster of proven offspring i’m a little nervous for the V line.

I love Banderas himself, but i’m not 100% thrilled with what i’m seeing out of him at this point… but he is young and I won’t be breeding said mare for a few years, so I have time to see what they end up like in the show ring still.

He is deceased now, so only frozen semen available but our Silver Lining (aka Landwerder) progeny all had well developed, powerful hindquarters and were all shorter coupled than the dam. Here is the colt from this year … http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=455122701199071&set=t.1619767802&type=3&theater

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I love Banderas himself, but i’m not 100% thrilled with what i’m seeing out of him at this point… but he is young and I won’t be breeding said mare for a few years, so I have time to see what they end up like in the show ring still.[/QUOTE]

But have you seen all the dams? I’m not saying he’s perfect, nothing is, but he’s quite popular so that might have attracted less than ideal mares to him… The downside of fame! :slight_smile:

Carbardino comes to mind

Have a look at As Di Villagana. GP jumper here in US and has produced GP jumpers. Stands about 16.1. Has been more popular in Europe than here. Frozen available at reasonable prices.

have you thought about Picardo? Bred really well, short backed, big booty, up hill… and doing really well in California right now. :slight_smile: Won the low jr/am classic today in LA in fact. (and he has the most amazing temperament)

Contact Info:
http://nolafarms.com/index.html

Picture:
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/horse/10482931/947/Horse_Picardo-big.jpg

Pedigree:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/picardo3

I absolutely LOVE my As di Villagana two year old colt and he is gorgeous and very correct with a lovely everything…except the booty! He has a strong JUMPER hindquarters but NOT what one would want in a conformation hunter. As di’s get are very ammy friendly and fold up like a fighter jet’s wheels over a fence so I wouldn’t trade my lovely colt for anything but NOT a conformation hunter butt!

On the other hand, I’ve had two gorgeous hindquarters from a cross of my Han. mare by Kalypso with For Play.

As di Valentia:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=454445894587172&set=a.440628195968942.107131.100000652975346&type=3&theater

Fanfare by For Play:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=473941635970931&set=a.149069891791442.25589.100000652975346&type=3&theater

Beaulieu’s Heartbreaker:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=483227118786&set=a.424084348786.208990.569303786&type=3&theater

I have a lovely Beaulieu’s Conquest colt on the ground at my farm but I have to say that they were difficult to work with… at best. Perhaps it would be less of an issue in Canada vs. the US. My vet had termed the owner “the french prick”. Just a warning… They have fantastic horses. It appears you are very limited in your registry options as well.

OK, besides the fact that a bunch of people are suggesting stallions for a mare they don’t know, Why do you think you want a short back with a big rump?

Tim

Beaulieu’s Heartbreaker has been on my short list for quite some time, love him!

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I have a lovely Beaulieu’s Conquest colt on the ground at my farm but I have to say that they were difficult to work with… at best. Perhaps it would be less of an issue in Canada vs. the US. My vet had termed the owner “the french prick”. Just a warning… They have fantastic horses. It appears you are very limited in your registry options as well.[/QUOTE]

I bought a horse from Ferme Beaulieu back in 2009 and it was really easy to work with the owners.

I know they got divorced, maybe you got to deal with them during that period.

Conquest is owned by Carlo Zimmer, but Heartbreaker went with Bea, his ex wife. She is a charming lady and is very professionnal.

Good to know, Royal Monaco. Thanks for the inside scoop. I’ve always loved Beaulieu’s Heartbreaker, but heard he’s very hot and his offspring often are as well… any one have experience in that department?

In Canada?
What about Eastern Ruler? He is a little more old fashioned in type. A lot of the youngsters seem to jump very well and be rideable.

Or Portland L? I got a nice filly with a lovely hind end who is shorter coupled than her dam of of a TB mare.

Another stallion who is lovely but poorly promoted is Calidostar. He has a lovely build and his few offspring going under saddle are easy and jump very well. He himself is apparently a total ammy ride and very attractive in person.

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Good to know, Royal Monaco. Thanks for the inside scoop. I’ve always loved Beaulieu’s Heartbreaker, but heard he’s very hot and his offspring often are as well… any one have experience in that department? [/QUOTE]

Conquest is very much on the hot side, but the foals I have seen from him are not hot. My mare can be opinionated, I would not say she is easy, but not a pro ride. I can handle her in every situation.

From what I saw of Heartbreaker, he appeared to be easier than Conquest. Maybe the rider makes the difference. Tough I am pretty sure a lot depends on the mare.