I won’t speak to his bloodlines, but I love the look of Last Gunfighter at Pin Oak Lane: http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/169127/last-gunfighter
A few
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/165702/big-surf
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/166746/awesome-patriot
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/166067/boys-at-tosconova
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/127300/cosmonaut
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/125379/calimonco
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/126977/city-weekend
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/168655/capo-bastone
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/127357/court-vision
Probably not popular with some but I see a lot to like
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/166361/crossbow
and a Curlin son
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/169166/curlin-to-mischief
too spendy, by Giant’s Causeway…
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/168625/fed-biz
and some bling
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/165973/get-stormy
a Dixie Union
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/137857/gone-astray
one I’d like to see in person - don’t think this does him justice
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/129864/grasshopper
a handsome horse - lousy video in my opinion - but it is a race sire promotion
http://www.valorfarm.com/jet_phone.html
I have a boys at Tosconova yearling filly (out of a langfuhr mare) that is shaping up to be quite flashy, if not very large. He’s an attractive stallion, and is pretty laid back.
the photo in the link posted by D_Baldstocking of cosmonaut is not very good, it’s got to be 6 or 7 years old, and he looks WAY better now, since he has had the time to mature. He’s a really good looking guy now, a decent mover and has, from what I’ve seen, a pretty good temperament.
Stonesider is a hunk, and BIG too. His pictures don’t do him justice. And besides being a bit of a cheeky stallion, he is generally pretty good natured.
I would look at some of the other Roberto line stallions. Archarcharch and blame are 2 that come to mind right off the bat.
How would you like to sit behind this shoulder
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/128488/einstein-brz
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Full TB at sport horse stud in UK
http://harthillstud.com/stallions/power-blade/[/QUOTE]
Thank you for a look at a sport pedigree that is doing!
Very attractive fellow.
Interesting pedigrees
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/132543/mustanfar
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/166359/midas-touch-gb
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/131729/magna-graduate
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/167202/justin-phillip
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/166818/i-want-revenge
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/137842/golden-balls-ire
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/130677/istan
Mustanfar has produced some nice horses local to me. I can’t speak to their talent, but they were nice to look at and not crappy movers.
Fat horse, interesting pedigree, nice hip, not a fan of the front hooves
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/132737/niagara-causeway
if I ever win the lottery. Not going to be an ammy temperament, but WOW talent!
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/132148/milwaukee-brew
Stepping off the soapbox…
[QUOTE=D_BaldStockings;8855906]
Fat horse, interesting pedigree, nice hip, not a fan of the front hooves
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/132737/niagara-causeway[/QUOTE]
yow, front hoof problems.
but… Nice pedigree. I’d expect above average movement with GC and Nureyev up close and Riverman bottom.
This is a topic near and dear to my heart. I’ve been religiously tracking and studying modern TB sires, their conformation, and their offspring for over 8 years now. Before that, I was a “casual” interested observer while becoming knee-deep in the TB industry. I have done my homework, and my research is always on-going. I FIRMLY believe there are still many great sport TBs out there, and I’ve made it my mission to identify some good prospect sires. I go to the sales at OBS, Keeneland, Fasig-Tipton, look at anything that strikes my fancy, from weaners to mares to yearlings and 2 y/os. I make notes in a spreadsheet, grade each one of them, and try to go back and follow up when the youngsters hit the track. I can watch TVG for hours (preferred the old HRTV, actually) and notice which runners move the best. It is a never-ending learning process, and I’m willing to change my opinions as I gather more info.
Of course, there are many big-time KY sires I love, but realistically I know most of their offspring won’t fall into the sport-horse cracks. But I can usually count on these stallions to produce a good-looking, balanced athlete:
Tiznow
Tapit
Bernardini
Malibu Moon
Medaglia D’Oro
Curlin (less consistent than the others)
Unfortunately (!) most of these are fast and successful at the track, thus ending up in the 6-figure range. No surprise.
Moving on to more “affordable” and better prospect sires:
First Dude. Throws a lot of big, rangy horses, almost WB-like. Not the prettiest heads, but they have a nice stamp. Good front end, strong hindquarter, move with big strides and cover ground.
Tiz Wonderful. A nice example of the Tiznow type, very classy. Well-balanced and leggy, good size. Often flashy, too. Sadly he was sold out of the country within the past year (Korea?).
Majestic Warrior. Pretty good balance, not huge but good proportions.
Congrats. Good front ends, nice shoulder/neck placement.
Super Saver. Often plain, but the more you look at them the more you like them. Good walks, good balance.
High Cotton. Very typical Dixie Union. Compact, well-balanced, average size. Square type of horse, usually with some neat little socks.
Sweet Return. Good size, good balance. Nice shoulder and hip, good walks.
Macho Uno. Good balance, good brains.
Mizzen Mast. Watch the front end (can be low sometimes) but good, proven athletes.
Stormy Atlantic. Usually very attractive. Sometimes “SCA” (Storm Cat Ass… my short-hand for an overpowering hind end) but he’s my favorite Storm Cat son. Good movers, perhaps more huntery than dressage.
Albert The Great. Good pedigree for sport, seems to pass on the characteristic Cormorant shoulder (uphill, high point of shoulder, good movement).
Pleasantly Perfect. I think he was also shipped out, but he could be counted on to produce Pleasant Colony type: leggy, rangy, big movers.
Other upcoming sires on my radar include Animal Kingdom, Gemologist, Freedom Child, Union Rags, Biondetti,
Popular stallions that usually don’t float my boat:
Henny Hughes. Many of them are butt-high, downhill.
Indian Charlie (now deceased, but this includes many of his sire sons). Nice sloping shoulders, good walk, but often downhill, short front legs.
Giant’s Causeway. I know he can throw a good mover and a fancy athlete, but my personal experience with them, they did not have good brains. “Complete squirrels” is how I’ve heard them described by more than one experienced equine professional.
Elusive Quality. “Big walk, all talk” a bloodstock agent once told me about EQ. He was right-- they have a great walk, but aren’t as athletic as you’d expect, tend to be too Quarter Horsey for my taste.
Distorted Humor. Big strong hind end, but often tends to be too low in the shoulder for an upper level event prospect.
Alphabet Soup. I love Cozzene. I really want to love Alphabet Soup, but of the dozens I’ve seen, 90% of them were super downhill and poorly balanced. Not upper level candidates.
I’ll come back later and update my list after I check my notes… this was off the top of my head.
[QUOTE=D_BaldStockings;8855830]
Thank you for a look at a sport pedigree that is doing!
Very attractive fellow.[/QUOTE]
I would point out that Power Blade has no Northern Dancer and no Mr. P.
One of the reasons that I like Musketier so much is that he proved himself to be an iron horse by winning graded races up to the age of 8 or so. He may not have raced as much as some other iron horses, but he raced in top company for many years.
Another sport TB stallion who is in England:
http://sporthorse-data.com/d?z=1_RDag&d=Sula+Blue&x=29&y=13
No Northern Dancer or Mr. P.
There may still be frozen available for Mark Todd’s Mayhill. He’s certainly got a sport record, and he sired several UL event horses.
http://sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10240947
Once again, a pedigree free of Northern Dancer and Mr. P.
One of my favorites: Proudinsky
http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/137998/proudinsky-ger
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This is a topic near and dear to my heart. I’ve been religiously tracking and studying modern TB sires, their conformation, and their offspring for over 8 years now. Before that, I was a “casual” interested observer while becoming knee-deep in the TB industry. I have done my homework, and my research is always on-going. I FIRMLY believe there are still many great sport TBs out there, and I’ve made it my mission to identify some good prospect sires. I go to the sales at OBS, Keeneland, Fasig-Tipton, look at anything that strikes my fancy, from weaners to mares to yearlings and 2 y/os. I make notes in a spreadsheet, grade each one of them, and try to go back and follow up when the youngsters hit the track. I can watch TVG for hours (preferred the old HRTV, actually) and notice which runners move the best. It is a never-ending learning process, and I’m willing to change my opinions as I gather more info.
Of course, there are many big-time KY sires I love, but realistically I know most of their offspring won’t fall into the sport-horse cracks. But I can usually count on these stallions to produce a good-looking, balanced athlete:
Tiznow
Tapit
Bernardini
Malibu Moon
Medaglia D’Oro
Curlin (less consistent than the others)
Unfortunately (!) most of these are fast and successful at the track, thus ending up in the 6-figure range. No surprise.
Moving on to more “affordable” and better prospect sires:
First Dude. Throws a lot of big, rangy horses, almost WB-like. Not the prettiest heads, but they have a nice stamp. Good front end, strong hindquarter, move with big strides and cover ground.
Tiz Wonderful. A nice example of the Tiznow type, very classy. Well-balanced and leggy, good size. Often flashy, too. Sadly he was sold out of the country within the past year (Korea?).
Majestic Warrior. Pretty good balance, not huge but good proportions.
Congrats. Good front ends, nice shoulder/neck placement.
Super Saver. Often plain, but the more you look at them the more you like them. Good walks, good balance.
High Cotton. Very typical Dixie Union. Compact, well-balanced, average size. Square type of horse, usually with some neat little socks.
Sweet Return. Good size, good balance. Nice shoulder and hip, good walks.
Macho Uno. Good balance, good brains.
Mizzen Mast. Watch the front end (can be low sometimes) but good, proven athletes.
Stormy Atlantic. Usually very attractive. Sometimes “SCA” (Storm Cat Ass… my short-hand for an overpowering hind end) but he’s my favorite Storm Cat son. Good movers, perhaps more huntery than dressage.
Albert The Great. Good pedigree for sport, seems to pass on the characteristic Cormorant shoulder (uphill, high point of shoulder, good movement).
Pleasantly Perfect. I think he was also shipped out, but he could be counted on to produce Pleasant Colony type: leggy, rangy, big movers.
Other upcoming sires on my radar include Animal Kingdom, Gemologist, Freedom Child, Union Rags, Biondetti,
Popular stallions that usually don’t float my boat:
Henny Hughes. Many of them are butt-high, downhill.
Indian Charlie (now deceased, but this includes many of his sire sons). Nice sloping shoulders, good walk, but often downhill, short front legs.
Giant’s Causeway. I know he can throw a good mover and a fancy athlete, but my personal experience with them, they did not have good brains. “Complete squirrels” is how I’ve heard them described by more than one experienced equine professional.
Elusive Quality. “Big walk, all talk” a bloodstock agent once told me about EQ. He was right-- they have a great walk, but aren’t as athletic as you’d expect, tend to be too Quarter Horsey for my taste.
Distorted Humor. Big strong hind end, but often tends to be too low in the shoulder for an upper level event prospect.
Alphabet Soup. I love Cozzene. I really want to love Alphabet Soup, but of the dozens I’ve seen, 90% of them were super downhill and poorly balanced. Not upper level candidates.
I’ll come back later and update my list after I check my notes… this was off the top of my head. :)[/QUOTE]
War Front too, IME. You’ve got Rubiano bottom for BTA movement and of course, Danzig - Danzig has lots of athletic horses on the ground.
I love almost all the stallions you listed. Bernardini makes hunky eventers. IME Tapit & Malibu Moon have good heads on their shoulders. I think Pulpit is one to watch for too.
Tiznow and Medaglia D’Oro I just cannot get excited about anymore. They’re always just so beautiful and correct but I have not yet seen a single one athletic enough for UL without some soundness restriction. Both of them have been standing long enough that I’d think an UL talent would crop up by now.
Majestic Light is definitely a line you want to see for an eventer. Even better if you can get the LB to Royal Charger and a heavy dose of Princequillo (just my opinion). ML does lend good movement to most of his progeny.
I’m sorry you had that experience with GC horses… I’ve dealt with a few thru SS and I cannot say enough good things about their intelligence and kindness.
Off the top of my head, expanding on ‘event types’ here’s what I’ve seen as a CANTER volunteer & rider:
Tapit & Pulpit (AP Indy)
- You have to be careful about the back, but typically Above Average (AA) movers with good shoulders & good brains.
Frost Giant (Giant’s Causeway)
- AA movers, very intelligent, compact & packaged
Stonesider (Giant’s Causeway)
- AA movers, kind & intelligent but needs a compact dam as they have a tendency to be long
Delineator (Storm Cat)
- Good movers, brilliant jumpers. Intelligent and sensitive, need fwd rides.
Raffie’s Majesty** (Cormorant**)
- decent with some AA movers, great jumpers. Consummate professionals.
Dixie Brass & Dixie Union (Dixieland Band)
- Not the greatest movers, but brilliant jumpers. Very compact, sometimes downhill. Great shoulders. Watch neck connection. Sensitive. Need fwd rides.
Say Florida Sandy (Personal Flag)
- AA movers & jumpers. Born broke
Skywalker & son Bertrando
- Brilliant movers and jumpers. Need intelligent rides.
Stormy Atlantic
- Decent movers, compact. Incredibly kind & intelligent.
I should add that RM has a literal whos-who pedigree for eventing - Cormorant top, Surumu bottom…
Maybe it’s time to update that TB thread over in Event forum, eh?
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Mr. Broad Blade by Broad Brush. I don’t know what you are looking for in conformation, but he’s pretty and I think he has a good pedigree for sport:
http://www.magalifarms.com/stalions/view/13/Mr.+Broad+Blade[/QUOTE]
I kinda got stuck on this one. He has some nice bone, long legs, and great feet. Only thing I see first off is I’d prefer more drop in the stifle for more of a carrying stride.