ICE Raid At Delta Downs

[jvanrens]

@MHM

Are there a lot of Hispanics working at the standardbred tracks?

I’m in Canada, so at our local track no, there aren’t, but there might be at the southern Ontario tracks, though I’ve never seen any in the paddock when watching the live races when they show the horses coming out of the race paddock. The track that we used to race at in central NYS, there were a few. Likely the hardest workers on the backstretch and lovely people. I have no clue if they were legal or not, our conversations were more about the weather or the races the night before.

ETA: The only Hispanic type names I’ve really noticed was watching races from a track in Kentucky. Trainers and owners, not grooms, though there likely were some.

[f0rf31t]

Ahhhhh, Gordon Liddy.

My mom got me hooked on an HBO mini-series called Gaslight a couple years back and I still remember watching an episode and at one point texting her “If I have nightmares about Gordon Liddy, I am blaming you” for getting me hooked on that show.

[FrittSkritt]

@Annie10

They don’t just poof off the sidewalk. It takes a little time to do the rounding up and putting in cars etc.

Oh really? https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a64309330/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-detained-ice/

[On_the_Farm]

@cristalle

From Professor Heather Cox Richardson, yesterday:
"Individuals in plain clothes with their faces covered and without badges or name tags are snatching people off the streets and taking them away. Todd Lyons, the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which is housed within the Department of Homeland Security, claimed that such measures for anonymity are imperative because “ICE officers have seen a staggering 413 percent increase in assaults against them.”
Philip Bump of the Washington Post looked into that claim and noted that by using a percentage, ICE avoids the question of just how many assaults there have actually been. He points out that year-to-date assaults against Customs and Border Protection are currently 20% lower than they were in 2024 and that at least one ICE news release blurred the distinction between “threatening to assault” and “assaulting.” ICE would not provide evidence for their claims.
Bump concludes: “[W]e should not and cannot take ICE’s representations about the need for its officers to obscure their identities at face value.”

So, the acting director of ICE confirms that their agents are in plain clothes, wearing face masks, without badges or nametags.
“for their own protection”
Just imagine, anyone who is defending this, how you would feel if this happened to you.

Maybe you should learn about how the cartels operate. With the idiot Nashville mayor making sure that ICE officers’ names were released to the public in arrest records, the cartels are watching, taking names, and doing their own investigations of the agents, their families, where the agents’ kids go to school, etc. Years ago prior to TSA, an airport screener was recruited by DEA to put the finger on drug mules as they passed through airport screening. When the cartels learned her name, they didn’t kill her, but instead killed her kid in retribution.

[enjoytheride]

We can’t change the basic laws and rules of what makes the US a constitutional country due to the actions of some criminal organizations. If we did then we wouldn’t have ANY marked police cars or police officers just in case.

[Annie10]

@FrittSkritt

@Annie10

They don’t just poof off the sidewalk. It takes a little time to do the rounding up and putting in cars etc.

Oh really? https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a64309330/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-detained-ice/

Really. Obviously they’re being detained and transported . And obviously able to be located and apparently filing court papers.

[Annie10]

@jvanrens

@MHM

Are there a lot of Hispanics working at the standardbred tracks?

I’m in Canada, so at our local track no, there aren’t, but there might be at the southern Ontario tracks, though I’ve never seen any in the paddock when watching the live races when they show the horses coming out of the race paddock. The track that we used to race at in central NYS, there were a few. Likely the hardest workers on the backstretch and lovely people. I have no clue if they were legal or not, our conversations were more about the weather or the races the night before.

ETA: The only Hispanic type names I’ve really noticed was watching races from a track in Kentucky. Trainers and owners, not grooms, though there likely were some.

lil bit racist much to assume
Some “Hispanics” and Latinos can look very very “white” . Can’t always go by the name either speaking from personal experience.

[ParadoxFarm]

@Annie10

I don’t associate with people with records but that’s not relevant to race, at least not to me.

Respectfully, you probably do but just don’t know it.

[Meshach1]

like most things that seem “hard to believe” these days, all it takes is a quick google search. If you are reading this, it is literally at your fingertips. They pay into social security through their employer’s payroll taxes. https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/

Of course, you won’t find this info on Fox News.

[Meshach1]

I don’t understand your comment. My comment about the tax revenue that undocumented workers bring in was in response to the person who said "why is it the American taxpayers responsibility to pay for the healthcare and education of illegals " It’s a fallacy that these hardworking individuals are draining our resources and not paying into it. it’s about as accurate as Trump and Vance saying that immigrants are eating our pets. It’s propaganda ala 1930s Germany.

[Aussie_2020]

In the article they referred to some people caught up in the government kidnappings as “collateral”.

Hey there folks that are backing the ice raids, how would you like to be collateral someday?

[tabula_rashah]

A friend of mine just posted on FB that ICE agents are in a town near-ish to me pulling people out of the ER
Even if you think every last immigrant deserves to be deported, what is so fundamentally wrong with your humanity that you would pull someone away from medical care?

[cristalle]

@tabula_rashah

A friend of mine just posted on FB that ICE agents are in a town near-ish to me pulling people out of the ER
Even if you think every last immigrant deserves to be deported, what is so fundamentally wrong with your humanity that you would pull someone away from medical care?

Unbelievable.
Except that it is not, now.
Waiting now for the justifications and rationalizations - but they won’t/can’t explain away the lack of humanity.

[LCDR]

I’ll bet most of these “assaults” are shocked people just trying to pull away from masked and unidentified “federal agents” grabbing them on public streets. If you had no criminal charges against you before ICE scoops you up, now you do and into detention and off to South America you go.

And since I mentioned betting, while horses are a small business industry hiring Hispanics compared to farming and hotels/motels, consider the huge betting numbers and income generated by horse activities for the gambling industry. Just google. horse race gambling numbers. They are quite substantial.

[Kirikou]

@Laurierace

You really think your town police are going to be able to stop this from happening if the FBI can’t?

And that’s assuming local law enforcement would even be willing to stick their necks out -when sheriffs are being sued by their state for allegedly violating State law regarding “cooperation” with ICE…

Local Sheriff made a FB post saying his office wouldn’t honor ICE detainer requests unless they came with a proper judicial warrant or court order. He also said they’d actively “block, interfere, and interrupt” if those requests violated constitutional rights or lacked a valid warrant. Now Iowa Attorney General is suing him, claiming that statement violates Iowa Code…

https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2025/06/12/bird-pursues-case-against-iowa-sheriff-for-questioning-immigration-enforcement/#:~:text=Bird%20pursues%20case%20against,lawsuit%20stems%20from%20a%20Feb.

[tabula_rashah]

@LCDR

And since I mentioned betting, while horses are a small business industry hiring Hispanics compared to farming and hotels/motels, consider the huge betting numbers and income generated by horse activities for the gambling industry. Just google. horse race gambling numbers. They are quite substantial.

Yep- I just looked it up for my state (Maryland) and the horse industry. According to the MD Horse Council, the horse industry has a 2.9 billion dollar economic impact annually on the state and represents 25% of our total ag land. That’s nothing to sneeze at

[betonbill]

All of these people who are seized have assets of some sort, money, belongings, basic clothing, phones, many other possessions, that by law they are entitled to keep. From what I am seeing on the news, it doesn’t seem that these people being marched onto planes to wherever are allowed to take along belongings.

So…what happens to them? At the very least, the U.S. allowed the Japanese to take along or dispose of property before being taken to the camps during WWII. And the Nazis allowed the Jewish people to bring suitcases with them (even though everything was confiscated later).

Are they just dumped somewhere with only the clothes their backs, no money, no phones, no nothing?

[enjoytheride]

The other day a woman was taken off the streets of NY and ICE left her 12yo behind, so I don’t think that matters to them.

[cristalle]

@tabula_rashah

@LCDR

And since I mentioned betting, while horses are a small business industry hiring Hispanics compared to farming and hotels/motels, consider the huge betting numbers and income generated by horse activities for the gambling industry. Just google. horse race gambling numbers. They are quite substantial.

Yep- I just looked it up for my state (Maryland) and the horse industry. According to the MD Horse Council, the horse industry has a 2.9 billion dollar economic impact annually on the state and represents 25% of our total ag land. That’s nothing to sneeze at

A quick google showed this: Some big numbers here.
And the entire industry is labour intensive, requiring a lot of workers.

2023 Economic Impact Study

[MHM]

@enjoytheride

The other day a woman was taken off the streets of NY and ICE left her 12yo behind

O. M. G.

That would certainly make me wonder if they were actually ICE agents, or just flat out kidnappers. Or maybe bounty hunters. I can’t imagine ICE agents don’t get training for that kind of situation.

I also can’t imagine the training involves leaving a 12 year-old kid on the street by itself.