I'm tired

Good heavens, yes. Vitamin D saved me when I lived in New England. It may have helped with perimenopause, too, but that’s probably for another conversation.

The only way I’ve escaped SAD lately is living on the western edge of the Mountain Time Zone about 12 miles from the New Mexico-Mexico border – so freaking much sun – OR a sweet spot in the mountains of Almost Southern California about 12 miles (as the condors fly) from the ocean.

If/When I move back to Maine, this is the time of year that I’ll have D3 gummies in one hand, senna in the other. Every. Single. Day. Until. April 30th.

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I’m reading this after I was just awakened at 1 am by my dogs having a sing along.
That was caused by the horses being in the yard around the house because they pushed out a fence board.
So I had to get the drill and screws and fix the fence in the middle of the night then collect everyone and get them back where they belonged. Ugh.
So yes I get it.
I love having my farm, and the horses at home. It truly was a childhood dream I thought would never happen, and then it did.
After 20+ years here, I’m tired too. And I’ve been broken on one body part or another for the last couple of years and have hardly ridden. That coupled with my 5 yo home bred being laid up for the last 6 months annd the unholy heat isn’t helping. Want to just pack it all in and sell it all.
I definitely get “tired”.
For the OP, definitely get thorough bloodwork and meds revisited. I did and ended up needing an iron infusion and it really did help

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Sending hugs. I am selling my farm after 20 years here. Had my last 2 oldies euthanized last week, and boarded the sound one.

You’re describing my life - get up, chores, work, chores, sleep - repeat. The mud killed me this past year and I can’t imagine dealing with it again.

Euthanizing my horses was very hard. Really hard - so I’m not suggesting this lightly, believe me. And - not sure of all the details around your retiree…but maybe it’s time to consider the option to let him go. You can’t bankrupt yourself of time/sleep/joy AND money for a horse, especially one that is “special” (meaning extra work, extra money).

My move is in part because of money - after a divorce 6 years ago - I really can’t afford to stay here forever. I stayed this long because of the horses, but any longer and it really would be taking money from my retirement in favor of theirs.

You’re not alone - just talking about the options with people who get it helps a lot. Non-horsey friends really don’t get it.

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Yep. I have this - or whatever they’re calling it these days - but am suspecting there is more to it.

My history with physicians has been meh at best, I’ve had some pretty wild symptoms brushed off as “well that’s called being a female” or “why don’t you just have a kid about it” :roll_eyes::roll_eyes::roll_eyes:. My SO has gone through the battle with everything being “lose X amount of weight and then we can talk”, so suffice to say that going to the doctor is a test of my patience. I’ll see if I can get some recommendations locally though.

They’re boarded, I work two shifts a week, but it’s a place where I do a lot of stuff for my own horses daily. I am experimenting with glue ons, learning to trim my neuro horse, legging up the green horse (lots of walking), provide my own feed and am likely to provide hay this winter (time spent sourcing and obtaining), need to do some trailer repairs and retitle so I can sell it since neither of the horses I need to haul seem to like the straight load (and trust me, I’ve tried EVERYTHING), etc etc. It’s nothing like having my own place but is much more hands-on than a lot of boarding situations.

This. It’s a little scary how early it has hit this year…

As far as the retiree, euth has been discussed. Every time I start seriously considering it, he turns a corner and comes up sound and happy. He will be like that for a while, and then something tips him off. It’s hard. He did that to me for ages - every time I’d talk about selling him (he was originally a project), he’d come up lame. Goober. It’s the greenie that’s giving me a run for my money and emotional bandwidth. He’s a dream but we are going through that “fixing the feet and building strength” phase that I love so much :sweat_smile: while battling motivation, weather, and other outside factors.

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Two thoughts beside what has already been mentioned.

First, even God took a day off. Even if you are not spiritual, many of the world religions and the cultures that spawned them embrace a day of reflection and rest. For good, healthy reasons learned over many centuries.

On your old guy, consider what many breeding farms do. Let them go with dignity before chronic pain and physical decline turn their last days into struggle.

Speaking of struggle, you are struggling with your own days right now and there are things you can do to mitigate that. Not easy but you can’t keep going as you are and you need to fix it before something happens that fixes it for you in a way you will not like.

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I know you have had many suggestions to get yourself medically checked, and I think that is great and should always be a priority. BUT - you have a lot on your plate. You are doing full board but do a lot of your own stuff, plus two work shifts, plus your own feed, trimming your own, bringing along a greenie, supporting a high maintenance retiree, plus your SO has needs for support. I don’t think I would be able to manage all that without some serious fall out. Maybe your mind/body spirit is legitimately trying to tell you that you are overextended.

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Honestly, it gets worse for me every year.

I’m not sure I’ve seen this mentioned, but when you do get to the doctor, have them check your Lyme status, too. That’s definitely something else that can contribute to feeling gassed, and woooo they can actually do something about it. This is about the right time of year for a new infection, too.

You know, when someone else spells it out, it certainly looks like a lot :joy:

I can tell you that things have gotten pushed to the side for sure - I do the bare minimum housework, we don’t cook, I’ve not been to a gym or exercised outside of the barn in years, I don’t have a social life, we don’t do date nights or vacations besides holiday trips to see family.

I see people managing this kind of stuff and more (my job is actually pretty chill, no kids, etc), but I know we rarely see what’s really going on. Still, I feel like the burnout slams into me and then I spend the rest of the time “rehabbing” or “putting them back to work” until the next burnout hits - aka I’ve not cantered a course on my own horse in YEARS.

Good idea. I have also learned that having mono lives with you forever and can cause fatigue - I never recovered energy-wise from a bout of strep+mono immediately before spending a summer working a camp and getting 2-3 hours of sleep a night for 3 months. I think I have been exhausted since then, but it could also be Lyme since I’ve never tested :thinking:

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I never thought of it as being SAD-related but this time of year gets me because while I love the weather I already feel the dread that winter is coming. I feel the frustration that another year has passed and I have not gotten any closer to any of my goals, and me and my horses are just getting older. Everything gets harder, and the realization that it will never get easier - only harder.

Do people still talk about mid life crisis? Or is that only men? :laughing:

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Yep, have them check your Epstein-Barr levels, too. (Although I think there’s dick all they can really do about that one, so I hope that’s not it :frowning: )

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Well seeing as I can’t tell exactly when the middle of my life might be, I’ve elected to have an ongoing crisis, apparently :joy:

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One other avenue to investigate, since we’re loading you up on things to discuss with your doc, would be a sleep study. Sleep apnea can certainly make you miserable, but there’s also idiopathic hypersomnia (aka you’re tired all the time and they don’t know why) or narcolepsy to rule out.

I was diagnosed with IH after getting Lyme a couple times. It’s zero fun but meds do help. I still want to hibernate this time of year, though.

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Was thinking about this thread while I was watering my ring in my futile attempt to keep the dust down this morning. (I need new footing, but I don’t have money for that.) I have been trying to employ the mantra that I get to groom my ring as needed vs I have to groom my ring as needed. I get to keep the pastures mowed nicely and not overgrown with weeds like I see at so many boarding barns. I get to ensure that my horses always have fresh water outside vs the brown slimy algae water I have seen the last 2 places I have boarded. But really truly I would love to get to board at a barn that does these things because I am very tired of all of it too.

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Getting treated/medicated for ADHD has completely changed my life for the better.

Still working on getting the dosage right for the anxiety and depression, but that’s also been such a key factor to a lot of personal (mental) growth over the past 3 years.

Sometimes I need to remind myself that it’s ok to rest for a day or two. The horses will be fine. You’ll be fine. It’s ok to lay in bed or do things that make you happy and rejuvenated.

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Fatigue.

I get it. September 30th will be the two year anniversary of my senior horse’s stifle injury. Things seem to be going the right way now, but there’s still the daily “is he sound today?” added to the usual “how’s he breathing?” and “how’s his eye today?” and late summer “how much food can I convince him to eat?” and ramping up concerns about mud fever and cellulitis potential this fall. It’s draining.

The thing about seniors, and injured horses, and partial self care is that it’s so easy to add one more thing to all the things we’re doing. We really need to stop and think about those things and consider stopping or changing how they’re done. Some things we start doing ourselves to be sure they’re done, and to monitor the horse’s response, and our subconscious sticks a “must do myself” label on that thing. For ever. Some things expand to fill the time available and/or suck the energy right out of us.

Thinking about what we’re doing, when, how. often, etc can allow small changes that can help. I started riding my lease horse before doing my senior’s abscess care and suddenly had time and energy for both. I was setting up my senior’s meds tonight before bringing him in and realized that I could do it after because I let him eat first just in case the meds put him off eating. I am riding him before the other horses now because I don’t know how much longer we’ll have and I want to take advantage! of what time we do have. I didn’t pick out his paddock today because by the time I finished riding it was dark. It won’t take that much longer to pick two days worth than it does one. I stopped and fed my lease horse at the paddock on my way home instead of bringing him in or walking the feed out and back.

Little changes can help, if you can find the energy to assess. Which is easier said than done when you’re suffering fatigue.

By the way - ride in the dark. Your horse can see better than you can, and you’re not doing concentrated work, so ride. Get a headlamp if you need light, or an LED breastplate, or a couple of LED lights from the dollar store and strap them on a neck strap. Grab some of those reflective straps that self wrap around wrists and put them on the outside branch of your stirrups. Get yourself a reflective vest. Get Velcro reflective arm bands and put them on your horse’s cannons. All this stuff can be found at the dollar store.

If your barn has an outdoor ring. or a dedicated paddock you can ride in put up a work light or a bunch of solar patio/garden stake lights around it. You’ll be surprised at how little light you actually need.

The moon will be waxing half full in a week and gives a lot of light. This is the perfect time to introduce night riding. Personally I love it and have been doing it for over 30 years. Even The Carnivorous Mouse Incident didn’t stop me twenty something years ago. The first time I used a light of any kind was fall 2021.

Riding, even just long, slow distance conditioning can be a big boost.

And if what you need today, right now, is just sympathetic listeners you’ve got that too. I hear you and I sympathize with you. It is a lot to deal with and it seems like there’s no end to it.

You can go back to the offered, potentially helpful ideas when you’re ready for that.

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Great suggestions above. The emotional roller coaster dealing with a horse like your retiree AND doing a lot of your own horse care is exhausting. I’ve been dealing with my horse’s soundness issues for the past 7 years. On top of that, he does the other “stupid horse stuff” that requires vet visits - some critical, some not. Late last fall, he hurt himself again and was lame. He walked fine and was definitely pasture sound. I decided I was DONE with trying to fix him or keep him going as a riding horse. No more chiro or body work. I pulled his shoes and bought hoof boots to help transition him to barefoot. He was just going to get turned out and maybe heal himself … or not. By March, he looked really good and was rideable again. He hurt himself again a few weeks ago, so he’s back to turnout and no riding.

What really helped me was releasing myself from trying so hard to keep him sound. I also stopped investing lots of $$$. Is there a way to reduce the money you invest in your retiree? Are his meds truly needed? Does he truly need shoes? Sometimes we try to provide “perfect” care when less will actually be fine. I never thought my horse could be barefoot, but here he is. Yes, he’s ouchy walking across stones, but that’s only ~5 steps to go in and out of the pasture.

I can’t judge what your horse truly needs or doesn’t need. It helps me to think about what would give the horse a good life, not what’s perfect from a medical standpoint. An older horse I had was on pergolide for about 6 months. We tried many things - reducing the dose, building him up slowly, etc., but he just did not thrive on it. He was dull, listless, and had an extremely poor appetite. I decided to discontinue the pergolide, so he could have a good quality of life even if that life would be shorter. He lived another happy 8 years until he was just shy of 32.

With both horses, just letting go in both cases helped me tremendously. The emotional drain of being the “fixer” is real. Be kind to yourself. We’re with you…we understand.

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Retiree is barefoot, and his meds keep him from trying to kill us so unfortunately I’m stuck with that :joy:. It’s the greenie that needs shoes, and I’m maintenance trimming my own horses in between.

I really do nothing with the retiree besides hose him off and feed him expensive (ish) meds. Greenie is the money and energy suck right now (though not really that much money, just energy), and I’m dreaming of fall hikes and camping trips rather than 1 hour walk hacks around the same track. This is what gets me in trouble - I’ll let the horses sit for a while and be back to “building back strength” for the entire time I’m riding. Then the weather goes to crap or I hit a wall again, rinse and repeat.

As far as riding in the dark, it’s just not safe here. We aren’t fenced off from the road and the ground in the pastures (that are fenced) is about as not-flat as one can get, it’s a trip hazard. Add that to copious amounts of wildlife, and the tiny round pen becomes the only place to ride. We have no ring or dedicated riding space - there’s not even a 20m flat space anywhere :joy:. I’m not complaining exactly, it’s great for stifles and teaching independence with the feet, but it does mean that weather/footing/lighting determines if I can ride. My vet wanted one hacking “even if all you do is walk” and I had to explain that if it’s wet out here, it’s UNSAFE to ride even at a walk - there’s a high risk of soft tissue injury due to slipping. I’m very limited in where I can ride until they build the strength to go down hill at quite a grade.

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To be clear, I know this sounds a lot like excuses and complaining. It’s just a lot of factors getting in my way here! In order to get my two Main Priorities (turnout and forage) I have had to sacrifice a LOT of the amenities that make riding easy. I’ve boarded or know boarders at most of the places here, and I’m pretty confident in that assessment.

If nothing else I’ve learned that if I someday decide to buy horse property, a well-drained arena is a NECESSITY. Followed immediately by dry lots.

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Taking your time getting them fit is fine, but there is such a thing as too slow. Trot a quarter lap today, and make sure to smile while you do it. Give him tomorrow off if you’re worried.

Take him off property for a hike with you. Put a surcingle or bareback pad on him and make him carry your water and a snack for you both.

Do things that are different and interesting.

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To me it sounds like you’re in the trap where nothing about the horses is really fun, it’s just all work. I know how really hard it can be to have horses in two different places, but it sounds to me like that would allow you to get some more enjoyment out of the green horse - to have him somewhere you can actually ride and feel like you are getting somewhere with him. But you definitely need to weigh that against the added stress of having horses in 2 places. Of course finding a barn that you like, and is in budget AND in a do-able geographic range is a lot easier said than done so maybe it will just add to the stress & exhaustion. Maybe if you treated it like a boot camp - do 2 months of training board somewhere so you don’t feel like you need to be there all the time - and see where you are at the end of it. I would even consider sending the horse somewhere far enough that you can only get there on the weekend and/or once a week.

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