I’ve waded through this whole thing and really all I have to say is this.
Two Simple, you are an idiot. FoxxxxxxyStarrrrrr, you are too. Do my blood pressure a favor and just not talk for awhile.
Feel free to attack/ban/whatevs, I just needed to get that off my chest. Thanks!
[QUOTE=nappingonthejob;2034395]
I’ve waded through this whole thing and really all I have to say is this.
Two Simple, you are an idiot. FoxxxxxxyStarrrrrr, you are too. Do my blood pressure a favor and just not talk for awhile.
Feel free to attack/ban/whatevs, I just needed to get that off my chest. Thanks![/QUOTE]
LOL, I think it might get you suspended for a while, but glad you fell on your sword for the rest of us, very kind, and it made me laugh a lot!!! thank you 
Quite seriously nero, I LOFF it, I so agree with you. They are trying to get a trainwreck going. I say don’t give it to them. :mad:
this is interesting and is making me think…
i think that 99% of the people that are gaga over this horse ARE gaga over that he lifts his legs SO HIGH and has that round movement going on.
and if you aren’t impressed by how high he is lifting his legs and say you are impressed by his “elasticity and maintenance of balance and rhythm” - i would love to discuss what you are seeing.
i see a young horse that is extravagant in movement that is losing his balance (wide behind etc) has a bit of a hard time keeping rhythm… i am NOT saying this is bad - he is young and of course these things happen - i also see a horse that is supple and apparently has what folks call a great mind.
but i am just curious what you are seeing and why you say what you do?
[QUOTE=Two Simple;2032654]
But the truth is - you will rarely, if ever, see a crazy, freaky as heck, outlandish, make your jaw drop, mover in a 15 hand horse! Sometimes its not about more. Sometimes it is about refining the qualities which are present and using the training scale to improve the horse. [/QUOTE]
I suppose you should tell all those FEI-level German Riding Pony breeders that they might as well hang it up now then. 
all of you risking suspension: USE THE IGNORE LIST.
you are not going to change anyone else’s mind, no matter how reasoned your explanantions.
if you read all the verbiage, you will pollute your brain.
much better to put the sillies on Ignore and just cruise through, just in case anyone has something interesting to say.
on the other hand, I will say that I LOFF this BB and the way the mods conduct business.
why, it’s almost like being treated as a grown-up!
yayyyyyy (clapping hands, jumping up and down and making razzberry and other rude noises)
[QUOTE=mbm;2034452]
this is interesting and is making me think…
i think that 99% of the people that are gaga over this horse ARE gaga over that he lifts his legs SO HIGH and has that round movement going on.
and if you aren’t impressed by how high he is lifting his legs and say you are impressed by his “elasticity and maintenance of balance and rhythm” - i would love to discuss what you are seeing.
i see a young horse that is extravagant in movement that is losing his balance (wide behind etc) has a bit of a hard time keeping rhythm… i am NOT saying this is bad - he is young and of course these things happen - i also see a horse that is supple and apparently has what folks call a great mind.
but i am just curious what you are seeing and why you say what you do?[/QUOTE]
i think you might be missing the fact that those that love this horse are not just going crazy ape for how ‘high’ he lifts his legs, that would be oversimplifying what we are seeing, and saying. Its the cadence, suspension, suppleness and rhythm that makes him so special, and the promise of things to come, the natural expression is just something that all these other qualities enable. He is soooo much more than just another ‘leg mover’.
People Please
I have put Two Simple under my ignore button, so please don’t quote her or his nonsens.
Thanks
Nero i understand that… i was specifically wanting to learn what canyonoak is seeing when she/he says that it isn’t the legs that are impressing - it is the “elasticity and maintenance of balance and rhythm”…
i dont see more of those things that i have in many other wonderful young horses.
i was truly asking to learn.
I ride reiners, cutters, and western pleasure horses. But I appreciate a talented horse, no matter what discipline…
And this horse is simply stunning! Hope I didn’t ruin my keyboard from all the drooling I did…
i think that 99% of the people that are gaga over this horse ARE gaga over that he lifts his legs SO HIGH and has that round movement going on.
How presumptious of you to think you know why 99% of us are “gaga” over this horse. For my part, it’s the whole picture, physical and mental, which is not even close to being complete for this boy. I’m gaga over him IN SPITE of how high he lifts his legs. He’s young, inexperienced, weak and unbalanced, as he should be. But I think MOST of us see, because of his natural gifts, what he WILL become with proper training.
I loff this horse.
But I admit to some confusion?
Yes, the reins are short and he is being sat on. BUT, he is being sat upon by Christain Flamm, which is very different than being sat upon by “Joe (Or Joey) Sixpack”. It is also very, very possible that he is helping this horse along. I am sure he is a bit. But you can’t make a 6, 7, 8 mover into a 10 mover, especially as a three- year- old.
And anyhow (on to the confusion bit). This horse is being ridden IN A STALLION PARADE. This is an exhibition, where they want to SHOW OFF their gorgeous young stallion.
Just because you see a show- like presentation here, dosen’t mean he isn’t pulled out of the field once or twice a week, posting trot, lots of stretching. Maybe he is just gathered up near the end and sat on for a few minutes to get him used to the idea??
You just can’t always assume.
Extreme horses rock
canyonoak,
The only other BB I participate on is political. There my signature line is "Silence the idiots. Use the Ignore list 
"
Parting shot (before I employ that feature here);
Bucephalus was arguably the most renown and brilliant “military” horse in history. How did he end up with Alexander the Great? No one else could ride him. But he was Alexander’s faithful mount :yes:
I am nowhere near a good enough rider to bring out the best in a horse like this. But I am a enough of a fan of dressage to appreciate him.
[QUOTE=Horsedances;2034533]
I have put Two Simple under my ignore button, so please don’t quote her or his nonsens.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Theo- just wanted to let you know that I have a VERY soft spot for you…LOL!!!
just your language when you are mildly disturbed is priceless…and picturing Two Simple (which I frankly picture as a country bumpkin-arab riding- endurance- simpleton) UNDER your BUTTON- is a GRAND IDEA!!!
I will try my best not to quote her- which would mean engaging with her -which only means to you a getting down to that place,…under the button…ROFL!!!
Oakster- you crazy WOMAN!!! of course you are right - you are always right- and you are so knowledgable and wise…!!
Please don’t put me UNDER your button…LOL!!!
xo- I loff that horse!!!
[QUOTE=canyonoak;2034498]
all of you risking suspension: USE THE IGNORE LIST.
you are not going to change anyone else’s mind, no matter how reasoned your explanantions.
if you read all the verbiage, you will pollute your brain.
much better to put the sillies on Ignore and just cruise through, just in case anyone has something interesting to say.
on the other hand, I will say that I LOFF this BB and the way the mods conduct business.
why, it’s almost like being treated as a grown-up!
yayyyyyy (clapping hands, jumping up and down and making razzberry and other rude noises)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=nero;2034414]
LOL, I think it might get you suspended for a while, but glad you fell on your sword for the rest of us, very kind, and it made me laugh a lot!!! thank you :-)[/QUOTE]
Ditto that- what a guttsy and right on remark!- man I hate that i miss all the action- because I have to work…
napping- right on! :D:lol::D:lol: i’m with ya!
Good kid you are- and very right on the spot. A really good example of common sense and someone who has at least taken the time to study dressage to know what they are talking about…!
Welcome Chicki- good intuition and nice way to say it…
[QUOTE=chicki;2034088]
Ok I NEED to interject here. Besides being appealing to the eye, there is a function to that trot, there is a reason they breed for that, and it all relates to his ability to do dressage. Everyone here is argueing whether or not the horse was “trained” to do passage. He is just three,and even if he was asked for tiny steps, which I myself highly doubt, he is doing passagy movement DAMN WELL.Take your three year old all arounder out. Take and ride him 4 months walk trot canter…hey TRY and get half the passage out of him that this horse shows with his sort of passagy movement.I doubt anyone in the world could get much passage out of the draft cross I own, let alone at three yeards old!! She isnt built or bred for it. This horse is on the other extreme. My point is, there is a real good chance this horse is doing that passagy movement just by himself, with not real initiative other than being held back a tad. That is called ability. It is easy for the horse to compress and direct that energy upward. This is what 99 percent of the dressage horses out there lack and this is why not all horses are going to do grand prix. Anyone who is serious about dressage competition can see the INCREDIBLE value in this horses gaits, because we all know that EVERYTHING is going to be easy for this horse. That is what every competative dressage rider wants. Talent and natural ability. And that is something you dont train…it is there from birth. I think it’s hilarious that people who arent competative in dressage even comment about their perception about this horses value as a dressage horse. Really, he wasn’t bred to appeal to trail riders and people who are into little local shows. He was bred for the international competative dressage arena, and that is where he will knock the socks off everyone who knows what a dressage horse is supposed to be. End of story.[/QUOTE]
I would NEVER ignore you , Sabine!
You are one of the reasons I read the BBs in the first place!
So did I!!! (the part about enjoying western horses, and english horses)! There is the sweetest most loving show quarter horse in my barn. There is a difference between the unregisterd QH vs. the very well bred QH. I bet 100 dollars this QH is worth around 40-50 grand.
I had barrel horses in my youth, one of which was wicked,wicked fast. He went onto become Maine State Champiion. He was an awesome horse. but I sure can tell you he didn’t have WB in him!
I bet my two horses now could beat my two horses from yester years in dressage anyday. But put my two others from yester years in barrel racing against them, they would be toast.
Oh, sure I could compete Odette in a NBHA cometition. I am so sure we would win. Heck, G is the more forward one. The thought did cross my mind because she would be game. Her body, and Odettes body, would never be able to take the torque a barrel horse does.
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