Interesting TB stallion on Canter out of the Spotted Beauty line. NEEDS HELP!

This is why I hate speculation. Nobody knows if this horse is sound/lame/crippled and people are already saying “maybe go Euth him”. Dear Lord. of course there is risk taking an off track horse and that is WHY doing some variation of a PPE is important.

If you want him because you like him fine but turning it into a go Euth him hes miserable thread is just silly IMO.

Outwardly he looks a bit gawky and rangy and his ugly duckling might very well improve with age and weight. As far as anything else… if you like him go have him vetted.

Vetting a horse at the track isnt exactly always the easiest thing to do. Last time I needed two views of a knee, the trainer nearly shipped the horse that day over “the hassle”. And quite frankly, track sound and sport horse sound are not always the same thing, so you have to take what you get for what its worth.

Now, having said that… If I were in a position right now to take him assuming he was ruined and Be Pleasantly Surprised if hes not, I would take him. Because yes indeed this is all just speculation. However it is informed speculation or as LMEqT calls it, PRIOR KNOWLEDGE (which cracks me up). It is common in the horse world to know who do and who not to do business with, and this is all people are trying to point out.

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Vetting a horse at the track isnt exactly always the easiest thing to do. Last time I needed two views of a knee, the trainer nearly shipped the horse that day over “the hassle”. And quite frankly, track sound and sport horse sound are not always the same thing, so you have to take what you get for what its worth.

Now, having said that… If I were in a position right now to take him assuming he was ruined and Be Pleasantly Surprised if hes not, I would take him. Because yes indeed this is all just speculation. However it is informed speculation or as LMEqT calls it, PRIOR KNOWLEDGE (which cracks me up). It is common in the horse world to know who do and who not to do business with, and this is all people are trying to point out.[/QUOTE]

This exactly…

I wasnt saying Euthanize him - I was only saying that would be kinder if there was no way he could stay pasture sound or taking that one way trip to Canada.

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This exactly…

I wasnt saying Euthanize him - I was only saying that would be kinder if there was no way he could stay pasture sound or taking that one way trip to Canada.[/QUOTE]

I understand it was more aimed at a few comments that were quickly turning this little guy into Eeyore.

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I understand it was more aimed at a few comments that were quickly turning this little guy into Eeyore.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think he is going to be a nice horse. Looks like someone on the eventing board has made the call, lets all hope he lands safely soon.

I also sent an email to Darley - they have a rehoming and retraining program for their horses… so we shall see.

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I also sent an email to Darley - they have a rehoming and retraining program for their horses… so we shall see.[/QUOTE]

Really refreshing to know that they do that. I went and looked at the link of their program and they have some fantastic looking horses looking to be re homed.

Similar lines to my stallion. I’d take him in a heartbeat.:yes:

Would like to point out that NO ONE knows if this horse is damaged goods or just needs to rest…

Who is to say there is ANYTHING wrong with him until someone goes and looks at him or has a vet take a look at him.

I have “adopted” these horses for a long time…through various rescues…trainers and owners of OTTB horses. Goodness…for any of us know…this is a young horse with a future…

We have a place down here for him :frowning: But thats a long ride down.

We are in Louisiana and I know guy who has pasture room but he’d have to be gelded first.

But he could go out for the year until he could be started next year again for a new discipline.

So…take the advice on the board…cross your “t’s” and dot your “I’s”…free isn’t always free.

Free is NEVER free with horses.

Horses are ALWAYS a risk. We spent $10,000 on our first baby who broke a leg out in a flat grass pasture with Mom. Survived 2 leg surgeries then coliced and had to be put down. Our second baby was stillborn. Almost gave up, but Denny Emerson told us that some horses DO actually make it to adulthood otherwise none of us would have anything to ride. Glad we took his advice and kept going…

I have a lovely NZ TB we had imported who we vetted the heck out of who went prelim and then got a stress fracture, and then something neurologic, and then and then…he is, fortunately, a sweetie and a great babysitter for the yearlings…

Not saying that vetting is not important because it is. I am just saying that, even a horse who vets sound may fall apart the next day… One of the many reasons we moved from CA back to NC was to have a farm large enough to have space for our ‘mistakes’ and ‘special needs’ horses… Anytime you take a horse on, I think you need to make sure you have the $$$$ in case they do something idiotic the next day.

Hope he lands in a good home…

I received a PM from a COTHER that that has seen him in person and says he is a nice young horse who trotted around and seemed sound.

So like everyone has been stating he may be ok…

CHSatwork - do you have room for him?

Yes I do. In a barn full of A.P. Indys :lol: It would be like a family reunion.

Our last lovely was an A.P. Indy. Looking forward to seeing a happy ending for this guy too!

Squeel Does that mean he’s going home with you? (that is if anyone can get a hold of that trainer)

I can go get him if no one else can. I have 0 people skills so if someone wants to set it up with the trainer and all I have to do is go get him and give him a home I can do that. I have a “circle” of breeders that my horses all come from so I don’t have to deal with “outside” people. I would blow it. :winkgrin:

My family is all in NJ for the holiday so I’ll be around. If someone gets in contact with the trainer and he needs someplace to go give me a call if I’m not on here 276-698-1671 My name is Melissa Dodd

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My family is all in NJ for the holiday so I’ll be around. If someone gets in contact with the trainer and he needs someplace to go give me a call if I’m not on here 276-698-1671 My name is Melissa Dodd[/QUOTE]

WHOOOO HOOOOO!!! COTH Magic works again!

Thank you thank you Melissa…

I can send your info to the person who has seen him… what info do you need and I can relay it to her…

Have they decided to give him away or what is the story with bail? When they would want him picked up. Oh where they are would be nice to know. :lol:

Bail? It is my understanding this horse is for sale by his connections- somehow, between all of the threads about this guy, people have made him out to be unsound, at risk, free, to be euthanized, whatever…he is at Penn National, he is for SALE, and someone had better just pick up the phone and call his connections to buy him- hopefully they will call you back. Not to be a wet blanket, but these threads are getting a bit crazy IMHO…