A trainer dealing with people they do not know well may reasonably ask for money for a horse among other things in order to avoid having it flipped at a bad sale. There are a lot of liars in the horse world (it goes both ways).
So it is not stupid to pay money for a horse especially if you like them! He looks like he is going to mature into a fine fellow. (And I love grays–maybe because so many good jumping lines are gray!)
Would you pay more for a car than it’s worth because you liked the color :lol:
Like ALL horses, his baseline value begins with a per pound price, no matter what color he is. So what IS the meatman paying these days, when you consider he has to make a buck too?
Here is TX the meatman is paying a flat rate of $225 for 1100# + or - horses regardless of color, breeding, or training.
Seconding that mare has a lovely pedigree especially for eventing. She should be cross posted to that forum.
As far as the colt/gelding I think he should be assumed sound w/ a pedigree and type that warrents further investigation for people looking into a prospect.
Other then that …its not worth the argument.
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Would you pay more for a car than it’s worth because you liked the color :lol:[/QUOTE]
I don’t understand why this matters at all. The simple fact is that this horse is for sale, regardless of what other people have given his relatives away for, regardless of color, and regardless of who he goes to. A horse is worth what someone will pay for it. The asking price is what the trainer, knowing the horse better than any of us, percieves he can reasonably get for the horse. It is simply silly to debate this, imo. There are people that will pay more or less for a specific color. It is their perogative and the horse is worth to them, again, what they will pay for it.
Any update on this guy?
bump!!!
My husband and I bought two horses in Ohio, via CANTER, 5 years ago. CANTER is a wonderful program, the volunteers are great. This program provided us with entry to the track and introductions to the trainers. The volunteer took her day off to walk us around and meet the trainers, and she introduced us to the track vet.
We were unable to decide on a horse on day one so we went back again and were able to get on the backside without escort. We did buy a horse who turned out to be a bit of a butthead, but talented and sound as a dollar. He’s an event horse now. The second one was a problem, and the trainer more or less made us take the mare as extorsion to sell us the one my husband wanted. She ended up an expensive mistake because the trainer had medicated her eye with steroidal ointment and caused a melting ulcer. We found her a home as an embryo transfer mare. CANTER offered to ban the trainer from posting, but that would have been bad for her horses.
The track vet steered us away from a couple of horses, and got our shipping documents in order. She had to get the Jockey Club papers from the racing secretary–in short, a really nice and very helpful lady, along with the CANTER volunteer and most of the trainers we met. I believe a pre-purchase exam was possible. But we could evaluate the horse pretty thoroughly, and the mare had raced the day before.
I wish I had seen one like the gray that started this thread. He would have definitely come home with me. I think he’s cute and maybe he won’t stay butt-high. I like grays and I like big horses. He looks like he’ll make a nice gelding when he fills out. I don’t know where people are finding truckloads of free, sound horses, but I admire the trainers for taking the time to find buyers. We were told the kill buyer was paying a flat $300 a head at the Ohio track on each visit. Some of those horses probably were sold as green prospects, but it’s easier to just ship them to Canada and make the quotas for the meat orders.
It’s ridiculous to assume a track horse has massive problems. I would be more concerned about horses from a rescue than the track. If they trot out sound and look healthy, you have a more than fair chance of getting a good horse. The problem has always been track access for most folks that want OTTBs and CANTER has opened those doors.
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My husband and I bought two horses in Ohio, via CANTER, 5 years ago. CANTER is a wonderful program, the volunteers are great. This program provided us with entry to the track and introductions to the trainers. The volunteer took her day off to walk us around and meet the trainers, and she introduced us to the track vet.
We were unable to decide on a horse on day one so we went back again and were able to get on the backside without escort. We did buy a horse who turned out to be a bit of a butthead, but talented and sound as a dollar. He’s an event horse now. The second one was a problem, and the trainer more or less made us take the mare as extorsion to sell us the one my husband wanted. She ended up an expensive mistake because the trainer had medicated her eye with steroidal ointment and caused a melting ulcer. We found her a home as an embryo transfer mare. CANTER offered to ban the trainer from posting, but that would have been bad for her horses.
The track vet steered us away from a couple of horses, and got our shipping documents in order. She had to get the Jockey Club papers from the racing secretary–in short, a really nice and very helpful lady, along with the CANTER volunteer and most of the trainers we met. I believe a pre-purchase exam was possible. But we could evaluate the horse pretty thoroughly, and the mare had raced the day before.
I wish I had seen one like the gray that started this thread. He would have definitely come home with me. I think he’s cute and maybe he won’t stay butt-high. I like grays and I like big horses. He looks like he’ll make a nice gelding when he fills out. I don’t know where people are finding truckloads of free, sound horses, but I admire the trainers for taking the time to find buyers. We were told the kill buyer was paying a flat $300 a head at the Ohio track on each visit. Some of those horses probably were sold as green prospects, but it’s easier to just ship them to Canada and make the quotas for the meat orders.
It’s ridiculous to assume a track horse has massive problems. I would be more concerned about horses from a rescue than the track. If they trot out sound and look healthy, you have a more than fair chance of getting a good horse. The problem has always been track access for most folks that want OTTBs and CANTER has opened those doors.[/QUOTE]
Great post! I really love this guy… I would love to see someone keep him as a stallion for a year and see how he turns out - he has the pedigree to be a very nice sporthorse sire.
Unfortunately I dont have anywhere to keep a stallion…
His price has been reduced to $750…
There are also some other very nice horses on Canter PA
http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5289:rainbow-annie&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings she is a Powerscourt daughter - powerscourt is by Sadlers Wells. She also has Rahy, Ascot Knight, Turn To, Stage Door Johnny and Blushing Groom all in the first 4 generations. Very nice pedigree.
http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5284:soaring-approval&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings she is a With Approval daughter - very nice sport horse lines there.
http://www.canterusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5280:southern-appeal&catid=58:pa-trainer-listings This colt has Sicambre in the 3rd generation - so his grand dam is a Sicambre daughter… not sure you even see Sicambre (sire of Sacremento Song) up that close in even the warmbloods today. To top it off he is a Valid Appeal son and out of a french dam line that produced the licensed Hannoverian Stallion Donnerkeil.
Sigh… I need to win the lotto…
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