International Velvet

Is Sylvester the other one?

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Actually Skewbald is anything other than black and white, so bay, red, buckskin, palomino etc, etc are all covered.

Otherwise I totally agree with you!

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Right you are! Maybe I was misremembering this from my Pony Club days :smile:

This was interesting; ā€œtri-colorsā€ are also considered Skewbald:

ETA it reminded me of ASCOB Cocker Spaniels: ā€œany solid color other than blackā€ (only in this case itā€™s any solid color other than black with white!)

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Me too, Iā€™ve never read NV, I tried several times but couldnā€™t get into it. The Black Stallion was my favorite and it was always on my library rotation.

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I loved the BS books, but I found the movie wonky too!

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I think the BS is a nearly perfect movie. Except that Alec was too young, but that kid could ride an Arabian stallion bareback with no bridle at a canter. Quite a skill. It might be cheesy but nowhere near IV cheese.

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My favorite horse movie! At the end of the race when the picture flips between the actual race and then to he and The Black on the beach gets me every time. :heart: :heart: :heart:

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@Dr_Doolittle We have a diffent gene pool in the British national herd so the variety of colour-plus-white-patches (or vice versa) are not the same as the American, via Iberian roots, coat colour patterns, the ones with Spanish names. The vast majority of our horses would probably be named ā€˜tobianoā€™ in American eyes. However, we live in a time of international opinion via the Internet.

I took part in a horsey team quiz, held one evening as a fund-raiser for the Britush Horse Society (BHS) which is a charity. The Quiz Master, not a horse person, asked something along the lines of ā€œWhat do you call a brown and white horse with a black mane and tail?ā€ and the room descended into a howling mass of irrate women defending their view. Terms like ā€œtobianoā€, ā€œtri-colouredā€ and ā€œskewbaldā€ were shouted around the room until, after several fruitless and noisy minutes, the Quiz Master just withdrew the question.

Personally, a black plus white is ā€œpiebaldā€ and any other I qualify as a ā€œchestnut skewbaldā€ or ā€œdun skewbaldā€ etc. I avoid using American coat patterns because I donā€™t know enough about them. There is still a cultural preference for ā€œhard coloursā€, habitually bay, chestnut and grey, in the UK horse world. Broken colours are not allowed in any native breeds except Shetland ponies. The lowly, common ā€œgypsy cobā€ is the one exception because the Travellers who breed them value the flashiness of feather and distinct colours.

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I remember hearing or reading at the time that Tatum Oā€™Neill was doing her own riding, and being a little skeptical. Iā€™m sure she did some of it.

The other fantastically entertaining movie if you can suspend disbelief a bit is Disneyā€™s Horse in the Gray Flannel Suit from the 1960s.

It is so hilarious. And they do show some famous riders of that time as well.

Edited to add: Kathy Kusner was the rider who filmed the climactic scenes at the horse show at the end. The movie is posted on YouTube.

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Was there a Disney movie about a horse named Nautical? I think I remember seeing it when i was about 8 or so. Was it ā€œThe Horse With the Flying Tailā€ maybe?

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There was, although I think it was supposed to be more or less a documentary? Although the term may have been used a little more loosely back then.

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Thatā€™s interesting, Thx! Iā€™m going to see if I can find it somewhere. Iā€™d love to see it again.

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look on this thread. It is here!

You can tell where she is riding versus a pro - pretty obvious. E.g. she salutes at the beginning of her jump round and does some of the opening circle; she jumps a 2ā€™6" jump in a ā€œcourseā€ of Olympic level. The usual camera tricks showing just her face versus far away shots of the action.

But, suspend disbelief!! The great footage of top riders doing eeal eventing make up for it :grin:

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Very interesting!

I couldnā€™t watch it, because The Pie is supposed to be a piebald. Thatā€™s why heā€™s called The Pie.

Couldnā€™t watch Heidi, either, because, in the book, she had short black hair.

I donā€™t know about perfect movie but I will say the Mickey Rooney was perfectly cast! He IS Henry as far as Iā€™m concerned.

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He was in both, I believe. Nope, double checked. He was in National Velvet.

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he was in Nat Velvet, and Black stallion.

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And continued as Henry in the 90ā€™s Black Stallion TV series!

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