It just looked like a clueless moron ruining a nice horse to me.
I won’t say that it is the most counter-productive exhibition of horse handling I have ever seen but it is right up there.
Why the poor animal didn’t put both front feet in her face I’ll never know.
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Nope, I was waiting with baited breathe the whole time, hoping he would charge her and run her over.
Poor horse…people are so freaking stupid, it’s painful. :mad:
HorseManShit, exactly.
Poor horse. Nice horse, idiot without a clue on the end of the lead.
That does it for me. I’ve never subscribed to PP’s brand of NH, but assumed he mostly got a bunch of nervous middle aged women to ‘play’ harmlessly with horses they never rode. All that rope swinging and flapping around that we see all the time by PP’ites seemes so counter-productive. But this display of bad temper (and rudeness to the student watching) and ignorant flapping has turned my stomach.
She didn’t know what to do, let alone the poor horse know what he was supposed to do, he couldn’t do the right thing whatever he did. He looked a bit tuned out to me…how they do when they’ve had too much.
You know what the truly horrible, hypocritical realization is?
If we had a regular leather halter, cotton leadrope, dressage whip/crop, and the handler in breeches, tall boots, half chaps, whatever; instead of the $50 rope halter, speshul leadrope, majikal carrot stick, and Linda in her trendy duds, we’d have the Parellites up in arms about this kind of treatment being ABUSE.
The hypocrisy just chokes me, it really does.
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You know what the truly horrible, hypocritical realization is?
If we had a regular leather halter, cotton leadrope, dressage whip/crop, and the handler in breeches, tall boots, half chaps, whatever; instead of the $50 rope halter, speshul leadrope, majikal carrot stick, and Linda in her trendy duds, we’d have the Parellites up in arms about this kind of treatment being ABUSE.
The hypocrisy just chokes me, it really does.[/QUOTE]
Yup, I’d think they were a complete asshat no matter what they’re wearing, but this is spechuly branded asshatery, so it must be ok. Ick.
There was one point where the horse was just standing there and it went to take a step towards her. Result: wiggle, jerk. Okay so she doesn’t want that. Tries standing still. Result more jerking. AH HA! She wants backwards! Nope, more jerking. At this point the horse and I are both thinking ???
Luckily for me at this point she verbalizes that she would like the horse not to look at the trees (!?) Unfortunately the horse, having no comprehension of the English language, is probably still trying to think of new solutions. As chaltagor suggested, this will probably lead him to be branded as vicious or a rogue. But really, if backwards, forwards, and standing still all fail to lessen the pressure, who can blame a horse for testing out rearing or striking?
I could only stomach 2 minutes of it - never did figure out what she thought she was trying to teach the horse. Can’t imagine just standing by if someone did that to one of mine - I’d have driven her off with the “carrot stick” and then hopped on and run her down.
Ugh.
I think she wanted him to look at her and ‘respect’ her. But I’m telling you this horse has been PNH’d BADLY for so long, I guess at the hands of his poor owner, that he’s learned that a human’s body language and rope work… doesn’t mean anything so he ignores all of the handler’s body language. I know this sort- you can’t flag them with a hand to say hey don’t walk out of the stall, I’m just topping off your water- they just leave anyway and walk through the wave. Then at the end she’s so GD mad at him he can’t even breathe right.
Priceless.
Yes, that was Linda Parelli at their farm in Florida. And she was mic’d, so she knew she was being recorded. As someone said earlier in the thread, this is probably a clip from the previously-new Level 1 program. (There’s a newer L1 out now.)
I use Parelli with my horse, but I’m going to admit, I don’t know what she was trying to do here.
I do remember much complaining on the Parelli Yahoo group about Linda’s interactions with an apparently one-eyed thoroughbred when the previously-new L1 program came out; so I have to assume this was the clip in question.
Please understand that even those of us who use Parelli do not look at every clip and smile dumbly with approval. Lots of Parelli students did not approve of that session.
This is not something I can explain or would imitate. ??
Wait, did they actually put this video in their kit and sell it?
Hahaha!
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He looked to me like he was ready to go out and lunge, but she was confusing the heck out of him with all that wiggle and snatch.
I couldn’t tell what she wanted him to do, I’m sure he didn’t know either. Poor horse. 
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Snatch is right!
I can get the same thing out of a horse without open handed slaps in the face, continuous jerking on his nose and rope wiggling.
It seems like they want the horses attention only on them and not looking around. She wants the horse ‘latched’ onto her. I can assure you there are way better and more humane ways to go about it. I do it all the time, and no hitting is ever done. I don’t even need a round pen, or a carrot stick. I’m allergic to kool aid…
Now how do you get a horse so utterly confused that it does not know which way to look, breathe, twitch his ears…all without wiggle and snatch…:lol:
I made it - thanks to fast forward - closer to the end and the only thing I got from that clip was a case of blood lust…
I also got the impression he was missing an eye. What a stupid cow. That was an amazing hissy fit. I watched it actually waiting for the horse to beat her a**. Mine would have either gone after her or taken off dragging her dumb poser body behind him after the third or fourth completely contradictory, stupid, face ripping, whipping of her rope. WTH at one point it looked liked she didn’t even know how to up the level of ridiculousness. Poor horse had the faraway I’m a saint so I won’t hurt her but someone please please rescue me from this nutcase look.
That made me actually angry and permanently unable to ever take anything she says or does seriously. If she is willing to act like that knowing she was being filmed imagine how she loses it when no one’s looking.
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Now how do you get a horse so utterly confused that it does not know which way to look, breathe, twitch his ears…all without wiggle and snatch…:lol:
I made it - thanks to fast forward - closer to the end and the only thing I got from that clip was a case of blood lust…[/QUOTE]
Mybad. 
I forgot to clarify. I meant to say that I get the horse’s attention on me (most of the time, I don’t demand 100% staring at me though) by NOT beating the holy apples out of him/her. :yes:
That is actually a very scary scenario! :eek:
Ala Alagirl:
Indivdialized Dynamic Intelligent Operant Training
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Is not my idea, I forgot to go back and get the proper credits when I remembered the thread it was from! 
I’ve always felt, watching their videos, that Linda’s a hair’s breath away from losing her temper. She makes a fine display of doing just that in this video. Linda has a very scary side to her and I’d hate to see what she does to a horse she takes behind the barn.
Pat just a dumb cowboy-type that looks good in a pair of Wrangler jeans. I think that’s what all those middle-aged women are REALLY looking at. :lol:
