I see she has a new colorful mare to add to her breeding program!
She is indeed colorful. Iād guess maybe dominant whiteā¦or splash and sabino mix (legs look sabino as do the edges of white/color areas). Interesting Ben DāOr spottingā¦larger than most Iāve seen. Iād guess the lighter body color is actually a roaning from either dominant white or sabino. And no, that looks like a walk and not a pace (pace would have both legs, same side, same approximate position in relationship to the groundā¦think about how llamas walkā¦it is a pacing walk that they do).
Her sire is really something. :eek:
Does she have a conformation picture?
Oh, sheās for sure DW (in addition to likely other things) - her sire is Puchilingui, one of the best known DWs there is 
This is actually a better thread with some really neat pictures of Puchilingui on it, a Puchi son named Sinatraās Reply, a lovely splash TB mare named Blue Eyed Angel who is the dam of Sinatraās Reply
http://www.horsegroomingsupplies.com/horse-forums/so-i-broke-news-hubby-today-we-375675.html
This is it as far as pictures go of the new mare until she gets here and depending on just how furry she is, she may just look dirty white and thats it. Once she gets here Iāll see if I can get anything more decent of her but that may well have to wait until spring
And I have NO idea how that one poster felt she was pacing in this picture!
She apparantly never took a picture at the wrong time. LOL
Post the following link on that forum and tell them to pause it when the horse is walking. See what you get. 
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/videos/watch/7BA0A106-8A93-4BDD-A926-78F30706DDD7
Folks.
Get real.
Is color (such an oddball color that no one can even say what it is) so important that it would outweigh multiple and very obvious (even from a bad angle) conformation flaws?
Does this creature have any kind of performance resumƩ (especially considering she is betrothed to a stallion without one)?
Successful offspring?
Anything beyond admittedly eyepopping colors to contribute to the gene pool? I assume a stellar temperament?
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Folks.
Get real.
Is color (such an oddball color that no one can even say what it is) so important that it would outweigh multiple and very obvious (even from a bad angle) conformation flaws?
Does this creature have any kind of performance resumƩ (especially considering she is betrothed to a stallion without one)?
Successful offspring?
Anything beyond admittedly eyepopping colors to contribute to the gene pool? I assume a stellar temperament?[/QUOTE]
This. But color sells. So if your bottom line is the bottom line on the ledger sheet at the end of the year, then maybe this is a good way to go.
I wish I had a dollar for every post on this forum that refers to āblingā as I could retire tomorrow.
Current competing horse is a very plain (one hind sock and dot on forehead) bay of an ordinary tone of bay. You know, the brown type. But his rider said of him āI could point him at Mount Everest and he would try to jump it. His primary motivation is to please the rider, he is brave and he has never once, no matter how I have challenged him, said ānoā That word is not in his vocabulary.ā
But he aināt winning any color contests! Not that I care.
And guess what? This model of equine behavior and ability is a gelding. As nice as he is, heās not breeding quality. But heās done more than many horses promoted as stallions.
Oh wellā¦
Sue
I am not so sure that color does sell all that well, at least not for a āseriousā prospect. We can have two equally nice jumper prospects from the same pedigree ā¦ one bay and one bay tobiano ā¦ and the bay will sell for 2 or 3 times what the tobiano will sell for. Our pinto kids do get more hits on their sales ads, but definately not the buyers.
Donna you have some nice mares but if Iām honest the new one has some glaring faults that are evident by that bad picture. And you all can flame away and maybe itās just me. All of us have different things we are willing to live with so it could just be a personal thing with me.
I have a chestnut TB mare who is the most wonderful mare in the world. You could get on her after 6 months and sheād act like sheās been going everyday. You absolutely canāt fault her temperament. But my word she is unattractive. She has a head on her like a bale of hay, short neck, body of a big horse on QH legs. My husband actually wanted to breed her one year and I threatened divorce. Now I actually had a friend here today looking at my horses and he said which one is Heidi? So I told him and he said geez sheās not that hideous! I said would you breed from her? No was his reply.
Still she is a diamond and I absolutely adore her. I just canāt think there would ever be a good reason to breed her.
Terri
Attention has been paid! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Pretend that mare is a solid chestnutā¦would you still want to breed her?
Hopefully it was just a bad picture taken at a bad time.
I think this is an important and reasonable question. There are too many horses being bred and if all a breeder is going for is color and is not concerned with conformation, ability, and quality, then I think thatās the wrong criterion for breeding a mare or stallion.
What kind of performance record does she have?
I am not attacking this mare in any way. Iām just curious because I donāt think itās a very good photo and I donāt know if itās just a bad picture or thatās what she looks like.
Well, she certainly is a horse of a different colour!
I too donāt want to discuss her sporthorse breeding suitability in any way, but I am curious about where this colour/marking comes from?
Iām very uninformed about colours/colour patterning, and wonder where in the TB gene pool this originates?
Is there a link to her pedigree?
Color doesnāt really sell to the serious competitor. Not usually. Not often.
Iām not saying that there arenāt serious (as in competing and showing serious) people out there that love color, but more often than not they donāt show that. Itās just not as well received as the traditional colors. Is that right? Maybe not, but itās reality. There are certain markings that are not as favorable (like too much white on the face, blue eyes, pintos , buckskins or palominos).
And, if you only buy color and bling, then how serious are you anywayā¦
*edited to add that we intentionally bred and raised two gorgeous pinto ponies and bought a palomino for my daughter to show when she was doing short stirrups and owned several buckskins, so I love them too.
Time to change that attitude
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Color doesnāt really sell to the serious competitor. Not usually. Not often.
Iām not saying that there arenāt serious (as in competing and showing serious) people out there that love color, but more often than not they donāt show that. Itās just not as well received as the traditional colors. Is that right? Maybe not, but itās reality. There are certain markings that are not as favorable (like too much white on the face, blue eyes, pintos , buckskins or palominos).
And, if you only buy color and bling, then how serious are you anywayā¦
*edited to add that we intentionally bred and raised two gorgeous pinto ponies and bought a palomino for my daughter to show when she was doing short stirrups and owned several buckskins, so I love them too.[/QUOTE]
I seriously ride mine and they have as much color as any. I love the additional flash of the loud color, but I am a believer that a good horse is never a bad color.
And while I do select breeding stock with color in mind, above all I want a good horse, sound, SANE and athletic easy to ride and train.
It helps that I ride the ones I breed, and if I donāt like riding them, I donāt breed from them.
The breed I picked has color as part of itās genetic inheritance, but it also has incredibly good minds and high trainability and thatās why I picked them. The color is just icing on the cake.
People who turn down an other wise good horse because of the color lose out, their loss!
But it is a really good point, one should always look at the horse and say, if it was plain brown would I still use it to breed? Would I still want it if it had no bling? if the answer is yes then go ahead and breed it.
JMHO
MW
Congrats on your new mare Donna!
Regarding the āserious riderā how many serious competitors out there are looking for or riding pure TBās anyways?? I loved my TB and I would buy another in a snap, but iām not a āserious competitorā and by that I mean I wonāt make it past the 3ā9" A circuit. I love the addition of colour and think itās great. And just an fyi, my TB was butt ugly and the plainest bay everā¦no colour and he was still ugly and no great record to see.
People think that just because a TB is ācolouredā that it automatically makes it poor confo, as well as no show record or anything else to show for itself, but I would have to say there are more are non-coloured TBās out there who have nothing to show for themselves, or poor confo etcā¦so why always the ābad stigmaā attached to the coloured TB horses???
I donāt own one, nor do I know anybody personally who does, but I do have a dream to own a big beautiful buckskin one day:) but if it doesnāt happen fine, I will take any colour, just as long as itās not some fugly monster!
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Attention has been paid! :lol: :lol: :lol:[/QUOTE]
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Completely off topic here, but Zlotych, are you polish by any chance?
I donāt think anyone has any delusions of these colored TBs making it to the Olympics. I agree that you shouldnāt breed JUST for color, but I am still a sucker for a nice buckskin and even went and looked at one a couple weeks ago. But the bottom line is, it seems that these flashy colored TBs SELL. Whether they sell to a SERIOUS competitor nobody seems to know or, more importantly, care.
Sadly the colored TB breeders probably sell as well or better than the āseriousā breeders. To each his or her own.
