Jockeys, Animal Planet reality: 2nd Season Fri Aug 21st

[AiryFairy]

[QUOTE=Blinkers On;4358962]
Last weeks Jock’s was poor. Kayla continues to be still not a jockey and really behave unimpressively. Iggy rode well last in N Cal. If he wants to break back in and not be galloping horses he needs to get out of S Cal. Mike and Chantal need to go their seperate ways. The show is becoming more and more of a farce.[/QUOTE]

The show is obviously so heavily edited to create drama it’s not even funny, their continuity is sloppy and the melodramatic storylines are pretty weak.

That said, I totally have a crush on Iggy now, he seems like a sweetheart and someone who actually likes the horses instead of just someone who gets on them, and I’m glad he won that race, no matter how well edited and rearranged.

[Blinkers_On]

Iggy is Iggy. Glad he works for you…LOL.
He did do well in N Cal. As I stated he does need to head out of S Cal in order to truely attempt to recapture the glory. He is a good guy, just not competetive with Gomes or Bejarano. He has some very loyal people like Mr Hoffmans(kindest human ever) and Sahadi. But he does need more than the two of them. He had been working horses for Harty, but when is he going o ride him? He is a great work rider in S Cal. He would be a competetive rider in N Cal. He’d earn a living, which is what he and his fiance need and desire.

[Glimmerglass]

Another recent example of the plight of jockey Iggy Puglisi:

August 14th Iggy got the mount on Royal Punisher in the $100,000 Real Good Deal Stakes. A big deal not just because of the money but because the horse had a very impressive debut and is co-owned by highly popular sports talkshow announcer Jim Rome. (“Rome is Burning”);

Royal Punisher earned a Beyer Speed Figure of 98 in his debut.

But of the 10 California-breds entered in the seven-furlong Real Good Deal, he is the least experienced. That is one reason that jockey Iggy Puglisi, who gets precious few chances on this circuit, has retained the mount after riding Royal Punisher first time out.

“Iggy’s been working him. He’s kind of a quirky horse,” Hofmans said. “He’s by Fusaichi Pegasus, so he’s got some of that. You can’t rate him much. He wants to go. Iggy gets along with him really well.”

“I don’t ask for favors, but before he ran, I asked Dave if I could ride him, because I really wanted to ride this horse,” Puglisi said. “He’s a little kooky. He’s a little bit of a nut. He’s extremely talented, but I don’t think he’s all there yet.”

So another bright story of a talented horse and a chance for Iggy from having been there in the morning to build a bond, etc? Well sadly things don’t always turn out so Hollywood-ish:

Race results: DelMar 8-14-09, Race 8

1 - M One Rifle
2 - Korban
3 - J P Jammer

Rest of the field in order: Brushburn, Tudor Blue, Escalon, All Saint, Royal Punisher, Kalookan Storm

A damn tough business

[Blinkers_On]

That it is

[MSP]

I had to stop watching the end of last episode. Iggy’s girlfriend was making me ill. So how much does it cost for a marriage license in Ca?

“We can’t get married until he wins a race” How does the rest of the world manage?

I just don’t think I will be looking forward to watching this show much anymore.

[pAin_t_Misbehavin]

[QUOTE=MSP;4361354]
I had to stop watching the end of last episode. Iggy’s girlfriend was making me ill. So how much does it cost for a marriage license in Ca?

“We can’t get married until he wins a race” How does the rest of the world manage?

I just don’t think I will be looking forward to watching this show much anymore.[/QUOTE]

I TiVo it, so I can fast-forward through the relationship crap. It only takes me a half-hour to watch the hour-long show!

[Glimmerglass]

[QUOTE=MSP;4361354]
I had to stop watching the end of last episode. Iggy’s girlfriend was making me ill. So how much does it cost for a marriage license in Ca?[/QUOTE]

I don’t think the issue was the license but rather the purchase of the ring and a wedding ceremony.

As cited during the show he gets paid just $15 a ride for the exercise work and who knows he might have to still tip out from that to his agent

As Blinkers On cited he likely would be better off becoming that “bigger fish” at a smaller, less high profile track. Struggling at DelMar to get rides isn’t going to get much sympathy. Why not go back to a Delaware Park? He’d still have to cut his teeth by getting back in line and fighting for rides but its’ not like you’re up against a Solis, Nakatani, Smith, GoGo for each race …

Look at Jon Court - an older guy and the same thing. Came out to Cali struggled, didn’t get the best of mounts, faded into the woodwork and so moved back to Kentucky this year and is doing well.

[Blinkers_On]

He might get 15 bucks a head to gallop, but if you work hard you can (I have done it) get on 20 a day and that is $300/day. Granted my feet never touched the ground. Heck, ten head is $150/day. It’s not like a decent living can’t be made in S Cal as an exercise rider. Add one percent and it’s an easy way to make a living!! Gamble less and he might even keep some of it. Jus sayin.
And no he wouldn’t have to pay an agent for galloping, though if he was galloping and riding, some might pay him so they didn’t have to ride him and some might not pay him but put him on horses. Depends on the trainer.
If I recall, one of the agents complained to me that they weren’t getting paid for their interviews and their riders didn’t pay them for the show “work” either.

Court is a perfect example of how a change of place is a fantastic thing for a career. PLUS there seems to be so much more opportunity in the Midwest to the east coast on all fronts. California is an island.

The Guadeloupe Wedding Chapel and divorces is cheap. Gaudy but cheap. Vegas style in LA, and legit. LOL . You can even fill the chapel… though who’d want to! He he he

[Larksmom]

The story of Iggy and his idiot girlfriend

This stuff goes on in other walks of life I imagine. Musicians anyone? Wanna get serious with the one thing you love and can maybe make money at? Or find a ‘real’ job and get married. What I was getting was that the girlfriend was looking for a ‘big’ Barbie doll sort of wedding. I am not sure how old Iggy is, but it sounds like he has been around for a while. I also think if he ain’t workin’ he ain’t payin an agent. If he were to PAY an agent, maybe he would get more mounts. And tell me, I really didn’t see him crying…:eek:

[cllane1]

I’m kind of rooting for Iggy, although I agree that the relationship saga is way too prominent. He seems like a sweet guy. Although when he called Hofmans to ask about riding Silent Soul, I was cringing. Be professional, act like you’ve been there before, don’t gush and stammer like a teenager!

Although I liked Kayla and was rooting for her in Season 1, in last week’s episode she was acting like a 7th grader. Nasty notes on the board? Come on.

This season is way too edited and not nearly as engrossing as last season.

[Glimmerglass]

[QUOTE=cllane1;4367220]
Although I liked Kayla and was rooting for her in Season 1, in last week’s episode she was acting like a 7th grader. Nasty notes on the board? Come on. [/QUOTE]

Yep, she did herself no favors acting like a child and turning off would be fans, clients, peers, or agents. Does anyone really think Julien Leparoux would waste his time doing something that? If you’ve got extra time, no mounts and are bored then workout - do something but don’t just hang around and get yourself into trouble. Kayla too would be better off trying to get mounts elsewhere.

Another kudo for Iggy - DRF Sep 10, 2009 with post notes on the ended DelMar meet:

A victory by the consistent Gotta Have Her in the Grade 2 Palomar Handicap on Wednesday lit up the face of trainer Jenine Sahadi, who greeted Gotta Have Her with a kiss on the neck when she came back to the winner’s circle.

“I think she’s fabulous,” Sahadi said. “I adore her. She always gives 110 percent.”

Sahadi credited jockey Iggy Puglisi, who works Gotta Have Her, and jockey Tyler Baze, who rides her in races, with getting Gotta Have Her to be more patient in her races. Despite a slow half-mile (48.95 seconds) in the Palomar, Gotta Have Her waited until Baze cut her loose. She beat Lethal Heat by a neck, with favored Carribean Sunset third.

I swear I recall the horse “Dawn Before Dawn” being mentioned on the show Jockey’s during some segment. Trained by John Saddler she was injured on that 2nd to last day of the DelMar meet and is now retired: … was pulled up in the Adoration Stakes on Monday, has been retired. “It looks like she has a hairline fracture of her pelvis,” Sadler said. “It’s not a problem for her being a broodmare, but she’s done racing.” Dawn Before Dawn won four times in 13 starts, including last year’s Torrey Pines Stakes here.

[Camelot]

Maybe Iggy needs to get himself hired as an associate trainer.

[grayarabpony]

[QUOTE=Larksmom;4361884]
This stuff goes on in other walks of life I imagine. Musicians anyone? Wanna get serious with the one thing you love and can maybe make money at? Or find a ‘real’ job and get married. What I was getting was that the girlfriend was looking for a ‘big’ Barbie doll sort of wedding. I am not sure how old Iggy is, but it sounds like he has been around for a while. I also think if he ain’t workin’ he ain’t payin an agent. If he were to PAY an agent, maybe he would get more mounts. And tell me, I really didn’t see him crying…:eek:[/QUOTE]

My husband felt the same way about the girlfriend. lol It’s a little hard to tell what she’s really like though…

Iggy spent much of the episode on the verge of tears.

WHY don’t they just show the footage of the races, instead of cutting to the same close-ups of the same horse over and over again.

[2LaZ2race]

So did Chantel actually leave for good? Is she off the show now?

I sort of like the drama… although some of it’s cheesy and really staged if I wanted to watch straight horse racing I’d turn to HRTV or just go to the track and watch! :lol:

Do the Jockey’s get any money for being a part of the show? There’s an MTV reality show (“The Hills” ) where the lead “character” gets $75,000 an episode :eek:

[Acertainsmile]

[QUOTE=Blinkers On;4361430]
He might get 15 bucks a head to gallop, but if you work hard you can (I have done it) get on 20 a day and that is $300/day. Granted my feet never touched the ground. Heck, ten head is $150/day. It’s not like a decent living can’t be made in S Cal as an exercise rider. Add one percent and it’s an easy way to make a living!! Gamble less and he might even keep some of it. Jus sayin.
And no he wouldn’t have to pay an agent for galloping, though if he was galloping and riding, some might pay him so they didn’t have to ride him and some might not pay him but put him on horses. Depends on the trainer.
If I recall, one of the agents complained to me that they weren’t getting paid for their interviews and their riders didn’t pay them for the show “work” either.

Court is a perfect example of how a change of place is a fantastic thing for a career. PLUS there seems to be so much more opportunity in the Midwest to the east coast on all fronts. California is an island.

The Guadeloupe Wedding Chapel and divorces is cheap. Gaudy but cheap. Vegas style in LA, and legit. LOL . You can even fill the chapel… though who’d want to! He he he[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing…why doesnt Iggy just pack his tack and make a fresh start somewhere else…it might not be SA, but the money is green at other tracks.

[Glimmerglass]

It was a bit weird how last week’s Jockey’s showed Jon Court’s return to racing in Kentucky at Churchill being almost a typical race day.

In reality Court won with Orthodox on Kentucky Oaks Day - the day 100,000+ showed up for Rachel Alexandra and the Oaks. Not one hint on the show that it was the day before the Kentucky Derby or it was a Grade 3 $170k race. They play a bit too fast and loose with editing for whatever reason.

Also omitted was that Jon didn’t ride Orthodox in his two prior starts to that G3 win at CD and further that Orthodox at one time was on the Derby trail:

JON COURT (rider of winner Orthodox) – “He was one of our Derby horses we were hoping to get here all spring, but he takes to the grass so well that races like this suit him best of all. I won on him in California and now here in Kentucky. John (owner/trainer John Glenney) just told me that if I had ridden this horse in his last two starts, we would have been racing in the big one tomorrow."

Not one bit of that really mentioned on the show.

Suggested at the start of the season was that jocks would come to fisticuffs at some point. The cameras never caught that but brawling is alive and well in Chicago albeit in suburbia and Arlington Heights

Chicago Sun Times 9-15-09 “Jockey tells police of alleged attack”

Somewhat tame and not quite the same as Ron Franklin vs. Angel Cordero Jr throwing it down days before the 1979 Belmont Stakes

“I guess he tried to drop me,” Franklin said of Cordero. “When I got to the (jockey) room, I walked up to him and he took a swing at me. I think I hit him a couple of times. I don’t think he hit me,” said Franklin, who will ride Spectacular Bid in tomorrow’s Belmont stakes.

[Glimmerglass]

Equidase: Top 100 Jockeys by Earnings through 9.14.09

(The date changes but it reflects a rolling annual period)

Interestingly the rider with the least starts but on the list is Richard “The Mig” Migliore with 267 starts but $2,133,888 in earnings.

(The jock’s take is generally 10% of that, then tipped out to agent, valet, etc.)

[EponaRoan]

I have the last three shows on tivo and haven’t watched any of them yet - they’re my only ‘backlogged’ programs. It is just so … contrived.

[Blinkers_On]

The show is getting worse and worse.

[DickHertz]

Is Kayla Stra wealthy from her Australian success? How else can she support herself out there in California with the very few mounts she receives?