Je veux être spectateur au premier rang. S’il vous plaît
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Hope springs eternal 
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Let’s be serious, Cradilo trained Amy. Amy never showed in Grand prix shows before Cradilo. To prove this all you have to do is see what she’s doing to her Cradilo offspring, she’s competing them in classes they shouldnt be in, they are too green.
Cradilo trained Amy. Amy never showed in Grand Prix shows before Cradilo. To prove this all you have to do is see what she’s doing to her Cradilo offspring; she’s competing them in classes they shouldnt be in, they are too green. The answer is yes, he was trained when she got him by Kevin Babbington and Nanci Lindroth. He left Kevin’s and was retired and sent to Amy’s for breeding, (she asked the owner if she could show him lower levels provided he stayed healthy and they acquiesced) as he had a surgery for a breathing issue and it failed to correct the issue (tie back surgery.) When he went to her, he was healthy and looked great, (as I mentioned, she showed him a month later, so he surely was not on death’s door as she purports,) but it was felt that he would not be able to perform at the highest level of Grand Prix because of his issue, that is why the owner responsibly put him out to stud.
Amy did have an “appraiser,” of some sort, come in to testify, I believe they had a personal relationship, but the Judge dismissed the appraiser and basically didn’t believe him. It was Amy who valued him at $750K. She told the judge that typically stallions breeding careers begin after retiring from competition, but since she was still showing him and adding value to him with her brilliant training and showing career that she was having with him, Cradilo was worth the $750K. She also stated to the judge that she was one of only a very few Grand Prix Jumpers in the country and one of the top ranked. That is how the USEF rankings came into the case. She was in the 500’s at the time. I don’t believe she has a ranking at all now. She apparently also rambled on during her testimony as she does in her writings. The judge cut her off so many times, he eventually told her that anything she said after the word “but” he didn’t want to hear. He told the stenographer to not record any of her testimony after she said the word “but.” (Too bad I am sure that would have been further interesting reading.) The judge even put in his order that it was very clear that her testimony was “self serving.”
Cradilo trained Amy. Amy never showed in Grand Prix Shows before Cradilo. To prove this all you have to do is see what she’s doing to her Cradilo offspring; she’s competing them in classes they shouldnt be in, they are too green. The answer is yes, he was trained when she got him by Kevin Babbington and Nanci Lindroth. He left Kevin’s and was retired and sent to Amy’s for breeding, (she asked the owner if she could show him lower levels provided he stayed healthy and they acquiesced) as he had a surgery for a breathing issue and it failed to correct the issue (tie back surgery.) When he went to her, he was healthy and looked great, (as I mentioned, she showed him a month later, so he surely was not on death’s door as she purports,) but it was felt that he would not be able to perform at the highest level of Grand Prix because of his issue, that is why the owner responsibly put him out to stud.
Amy did have an “appraiser,” of some sort, come in to testify, I believe they had a personal relationship, but the judge dismissed the appraiser and basically didn’t believe him. It was Amy who valued him at $750K. She told the judge that typically stallions breeding careers begin after retiring from competition, but since she was still showing him and adding value to him with her brilliant training and showing career that she was having with him, Cradilo was worth the $750K. She also stated to the judge that she was one of only a very few Grand Prix Jumpers in the country and one of the top ranked. That is how the USEF rankings came into the case. She was in the 500’s at the time. I don’t believe she has a ranking at all now. She apparently also rambled on during her testimony as she does in her writings. The judge cut her off so many times, he eventually told her that anything she said after the word “but” he didn’t want to hear. He told the stenographer to not record any of her testimony after she said the word “but.” (Too bad I am sure that would have been further interesting reading.) The judge even put in his order that it was very clear that her testimony was “self serving.”
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LOL. Is there a link online somewhere where one can access the written record of the court proceedings? Would love to read. Sometimes I think IM one of the crazy horse people but then I hear about people like this…whole other league
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Also this horse sounds so much like a saint, I would’ve argued her 750k figure came from his obvious ‘jumps anything in front of him’ attitude even at the grand prix level with a (GP-level) green rider
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This seems very odd to me. Shouldn’t the stenographer take down every word so it’s all on the record? Even if it turns out to be false or unrelated?
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Not at all, how many times have you heard of an attorney trying to get something on the record and the Judge says it inadmissible.
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Nope…if the judge says it is off the record, it is off the record.
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You would have to order the transcript from the WI Court that it was heard in. It is public record. The appellate decision is at http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/userfi…20Decision.pdf I’m sure you can find the lower court decision with that information.
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It’s still supposed to be transcribed so if there is an appeal the appellate court can decide whether the trial judge correctly struck the testimony.
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That also should be transcribed (assuming the hearing is being transcribed) again, for review on appeal?! Evidentiary rulings are reviewable
That’s what I was thinking, although I’m certainly no legal expert. But it only makes sense to have everything transcribed, just in case.
I don’t know what constitutes a “legal expert” but I am a litigator with more than a little trial experience and the usual procedure is for a trial/hearing transcript to contain everything said… including the judge’s rulings and testimony that is ultimately stricken
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I took this statement out alone because I love it so much. Cradilo sounds like a wonderful boy! I’ve had a couple horses that helped train me too. :yes:
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I don’t know anything about court procedures but when I read LtCom’s post I took it to mean that since the judge told Amy to stop talking after “but” if she didn’t stop the stenographer was to ignore that.
And if you stopped reading my above statement after “but” it makes sense, if you kept reading it, it turned into word-salad. 
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It sounds to me that the judge felt the whole thing was so farcical (and it was - she was paid for training an expenses, so how is the enrichment unjust?) that he was uninterested in participating at that point.
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Does he get to make that choice? To the point of not having an accurate transcript of every word that was said?
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Obviously I don’t know what the judge did because I wasn’t there but that’s still very atypical. I read LtCom’s whole post. I still think if that’s what happened it was pretty atypical. This was an evidentiary hearing?! Or Amy representing herself pro she?! Was she testifying?! Or making legal argument?
Who knows? Maybe he just said it to get her to shut the hell up! He was probably tired of hearing how great a trainer, rider,breeder, and farrier she was!
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