Jumping in a De gogue

[Tinseltown123]

How do you say you aren’t judging this particular rider? I acknowledged in my original post that this rider has had issues in her past, which she also paid the fine and did the time for.

Oh, and the fact that this is considered a mellow thread because all of you are in agreement about how “terrible” a DG is but don’t care at all about how you have attacked this one rider just says so much.
That right there is acting as judge and jury. You just convicted her based on a 15 sec video and her past. A vet very much could have recommended it for a horse rehabbing from an injury, but because you disagree with it you say it isn’t either factual or correct.
Honestly in the short little time being a house guest, I am very happy to be packing my bags and heading to another home.

[Denali6298]

Bye bye now! And so you know, a consensus on COTH is unusual.

[Xctrygirl]

@Tinseltown123

Facts:

1. There are multiple instances where anyone can see her using a De Gogue. These are public. No one hacked her stuff, she put it out there. And as such one could conclude that she is willing to defend her use of this equipment.

2. Most of us do not think this is a good use of a device with a domesticated animal. You are free to emulate her as you wish. We don’t have to agree. And that’s our respective rights and choices

3. Any person who posts anything (opinion, picture, video, or hell a recipe) in the public world that is the internet in 2018 should be aware that others may not agree with them. I think anyone with a Facebook account can see this and it was demonstrably apparent around the lead up to the most recent election.

4. This rider has a past with mistakes in it. Many among us do as well. How you carry yourself and learn from them is the separation that counts the most. This person is not the first to run up against COTH with how they behaved on a public video. They won’t be the last. Ones in the crowd who are against MM could be the next person to be discussed. That’s life. I think the part that’s worth pointing out is that the use of a DG in the fashion she is applying, will likely not lead to more success. Rather it will lead away from it. Many of us watching this know that. Ultimately we are promoting the concepts that if she embraced (ride the horse correctly and strengthen it appropriately) she would likely be more successful. But hey… we are not all ULR’s. And for sure it’s unlikely if she is on this path she likely won’t listen to someone not in her sphere. If you are a supporter or better yet a friend of hers, tell her to drop the DG and work on her riding like the rest of us do. If that doesn’t automatically lead her to success, consider changing those who are her core influencers. It’s likely that could help her a lot.

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[trubandloki]

@Tinseltown123

This is a discussion forum. We (general) discuss things. Like any other discussion involving a large group of people there are always people who think one way and people who think the other way. That is just how life works.

This thread is discussing stuff that even you agree are facts (yellow cards, etc). Is it only bad that we are discussing them because the thoughts brought up here (regarding those facts) are not as rosy as you would like them to be?

Threads like this tend to go better for people like you (general people who want to change the mind of the others) if you calmly give facts that will show the rest how they are not right, not a drama filled long post ranting about how evil everyone is for not agreeing with you.

@Tinseltown123

Honestly in the short little time being a house guest, I am very happy to be packing my bags and heading to another home.

A House guest on this forum is simply someone who is a new poster who jumps in to add all kinds of story to the topic the thread is about. The term comes from an old thread where the person who joined to defend the person being discussed insisted they knew all those great facts about the subject because they were a house guest at their house.

Not necessarily a negative term.

[subk]

Every time there is a rash of accidents in our sport we have discussions–some formally organized by the powers that be, some public like here, and some that take place in our own barns among friends. At the end of the day what all those different discussions boil down to is that eventing safety hinges on “rider responsibility.”

Jumping a horse, who you expect to save your ass on cross county at some point in the future, over anything of substance with its head tied down and its neck restricted is irresponsible riding and dangerous. It is the opposite of “rider responsibility.”

A somewhat well know upper level rider promoting the practice on a public forum is irresponsible. I really don’t care if you have some rare physical malady and the best vets in the world told you to do it. If you are an upper level rider and don’t understand why this is a bad practice to publicize then it really does suggest a grim future for our sport.

[Jealoushe]

@trubandloki

A House guest on this forum is simply someone who is a new poster who jumps in to add all kinds of story to the topic the thread is about. The term comes from an old thread where the person who joined to defend the person being discussed insisted they knew all those great facts about the subject because they were a house guest at their house.

Not necessarily a negative term.

Almost 11 years and I finally hear the story behind that term :lol: