Plenty of ways to view ingredients. Here is a sample of the manufacturer site and retailer sites with them listed:
http://www.perfectproductseq.com/products/perfect-prep-eq-extreme/
http://perfectproductseq.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Perfect-Prep-Sane-and_Sound-Pellets-Ingredients.pdf
https://www.smartpakequine.com/ps/perfect-prep-eq-gold-paste-8370
https://www.smartpakequine.com/ps/perfect-prep-eq-extreme-paste-8369
https://www.sstack.com/product/perfect-products-perfect-prep-eq-training-day-powder/
I see. It looks similar to calm and focus. I work in a tack shop at horse shows and we sell cases!
Wow…so right in the ingredients it even says that L Tryptophan induces sleep and drowsiness, WTH…yeah that really would make me want to use this crap and jump around…
http://www.perfectproductseq.com/products/perfect-prep-eq-extreme/
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And doing so while hungry… “It has more quieting effect when used on an empty stomach”. Sounds awful
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honestly, I don’t think it does much more than line the pockets of the manufacturer of PP and make the riders relax because they believe it works.
I base this on my personal experience* and the fact that the Colvin’s gave, what, 7 tubes of it before competing (it’s been a while since I read those transcripts, at any rate I was left with the impression that if it helped, it was well beyond the “recommended” doses!) Yeah, it is an issue because it clearly flaunts the intent rule, but I’m not sure it is actually performance enhancing. It’s a bit like deliberately going 55 in what you think is a 30 mph school zone, only to discover the speed limit is 55 after all. Your intent sucked, but your actual practice?
*I tried it on a horse I was rehabbing and if there was a difference, it was lost on me. Then I tried it on a young horse on his first outing and again, I didn’t think it had any discernible effect. Bottom line if I was in that position again, I’d go back to a 1/4cc of ace.
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I thought the same thing until I used a calming paste (the smartpak knockoff of PP) that actually had an effect on a horse I rode. He had some serious show anxiety and this stuff was shocking in how well it brought him back down to planet earth. It was really nice to be able to tie him to the trailer and have him quietly eat hay instead of tap dancing. Not sure that it did a whole lot for his performance other than both him and I being a lot less stressed by the time we got to the ring. He doesn’t need it anymore. I think it helped him over the hump of show anxiety in his younger days.
That said, it hasn’t done squat for any other horse I tried it on.
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Last year PerfectProducts (makers of Perfect Prep) sponsored a high score award at the USHJA International Hunter Derby in Lexington. This year they’re sponsors of Fox Lea Farms horse shows in Florida, and the World Equestrian Center in Ohio. IIRC, they were at one time a USEF sponsor as well, which raised a lot of eyebrows.
There are more pockets being lined than just the manufacturer’s.
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Yet somehow I doubt you would give that advice online, when speaking about horses that kids will be riding in shows. You are an adult rehabbing a horse.
A rather basic tenant when choosing a child’s mount is that it not need to be sedated.
“Just sayin”. 
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If Gage wanted to get everyone talking about him and PP again… mission accomplished
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Yes. Bumping a four year old thread was a strange move.
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Since it contains magnesium it might work on a horse with a Mg deficiency, but not on a horse without one.
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I still love his “explanation” that “hunter trainers use it so it’s legal” :lol::lol::lol:
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Same!!
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How else are you going to be able to fit Ninetubeapaloozas into them 
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I always wonder if it is me or the “stuff”… In both of the horses I described below, I switched to the pheromone stuff (blanking on the name) and I think it helped, and helped more than PP… but then the critical proof part of me starts wondering if it’s real or perception or some other confluence of events that worked for the horse that day, having nothing to do with stuff in a tube or gel in the nose.
The horses in involved were at two extremes of the worry spectrum - one horse had a very bad episode with a saddle slipping under his belly after he spooked hard and I had an unintended dismount that was more me stepping off, and pulling the saddle off to the side (gosh THAT was fun) and he had a serious need to be able to take a deep breath and realize that saddles were not actually a pack of wolves trying to disembowel him, the other was a youngster getting trained to load in a trailer after his first experience which consisted of being shipped for 9+ hours - he wasn’t actually bad or too worried but altogether didn’t see the point of getting back in that box.
I think it helped, but…
I’ve used it twice.
It worked.
i didn’t like the horse it produced the one time I rode on it. All anxiety was gone but so was all “try.” And since my intent was to help her over some riding anxiety…it worked i guess but I couldn’t TRAIN while on it so I never used it again for her.
the other time I used it at a show–not to show on but the horse I had brought for exposure had lost the plot. PP pulled him down enough to get some lunging done. Hes now excellent in new environments but that’s becuse we spent the rest of the summer taking him places (without perfect prep).
Another person I know tried it for shows. It just made her horse spooky and anxious yet dull to the aids. She doesn’t use it anymore.
Maybe we weren’t giving enough tubes. ::eyeroll::
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well, no duh.
But I have learned over the decades that a shockingly high amount of horse professionals are utterly clueless as to the dynamics of social media. Presumably that comes from spending more time on horses than at a desk, which sadly is not a luxury that most of us with a day job (who want to be able to pay said professional) get a chance to do. On the plus side, we realize that a) writing it down on the internets is Not A Good Idea. and b) revisiting it 4 years later when it is dead and buried (but not forgotten) is a Much Worse Idea. 
However I like to think that people have evolved over the last 4 years and there is a lot more focus on this craps (some good from ninetubeapalooza, I guess). So I am sure those who always plan on cheating #gotoffonatechnicality continue to do so… but maybe a chunk of people who were less aware are aware (#woke?) now and are being a bit more critical about their horse’s care.
Hey, a girl can dream…
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Oh dear!
I was just reading through the thread and noticed that the ad on the right was for “Chillax”! :eek:
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That was my thought as well, or maybe he’s just particularly sensitive to a big ol’ dose of Mg? Either way that stuff got me through a season of competing with a lot less stress and broken halters.
I really don’t think it was all in my head. There was way too much of a difference when I wasn’t expecting anything.
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presuming you were showing at non-USEF shows?
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