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Kate (Katherine Leigh) Ostermeier Situation

Sport Horse Breeding
#81

[QUOTE=Jump Start Farm;7528721]
Contrary to what some posts say, money is the major factor with this situation (lack of and poor management of it). At the end of the day, no matter how difficult this situation is, we believe that that the horses that are still at the Kate’s farm need to eat. There are still horses there, mares and foals now as well and until everything gets done, these horses are starving.
Some posters have offered to help and I believe that despite how anyone feels about this, I find the offer to help extremely generous and inspiring. So I have set up an account for this at Southern States in Lexington. You can buy Hay and/or grain and they will deliver it to her. She will have no access to it any other way. The manager, Pat, is informed not to do anything but deliver what people order.
Even if it is very temporary, a meal is a meal.
Thank you for your generosity.
Feel free to PM me your orders so I can follow through and make sure that it is taken and delivered. No name or personal info will be mentioned here.

Southern States - Lexington Cooperative - Lexington Branch
2570 Palumbo Drive
Lexington, KY 40509 United States
(859) 255-7524
Ask for PAT (manager).[/QUOTE]

While I WANT starving horses to eat, the problem with this is that it muddies the waters when it comes to AC doing their job and getting the animals out of there. If they are fed, no matter how, there will be NO effort put into getting them AWAY from this asshat. :frowning:

#82

Now the issue will arise over the foals. Kate is adamant that they are her babies and that she will be a force to be reckoned with.

It always amazes me that vet reports on the state of the animal are not sufficient :no:
(you might check if having multiple vets sign off would be helpful or not)

#83

[QUOTE=alto;7528928]
It always amazes me that vet reports on the state of the animal are not sufficient :no:
(you might check if having multiple vets sign off would be helpful or not)[/QUOTE]

Two vets have seen my mare, one a licensed FEI vet. She gave me her opinion!

#84

I am just thoroughly sick after seeing the pictures. I have no idea what my reaction would have been if I had a mare involved but I can promise you it would not have been good.

And how disgraceful is it that she still is allowed to have horses! Something has got to change with our laws if people can continue to be so irresponsible.

#85

Considering AC has cases of a higher priority, I wonder what THOSE animals look like…

Take home lesson: before you sell or lease your horse to ANYONE, do more than just talk to the person…ask for references, visit their place, do some investigating.

If you can’t do that, then keep your mare at home. Otherwise you are taking a risk.

Talk is cheap…no one vows to starve your horse…personally, I leased out 2 of my mares in the past and will never do so again.

#86

Maybe they’re only higher priority b/c people have stepped up to feed KO’s horses. Horses with sponsors are naturally a low priority. In fact, in the eyes of AC, are they even in danger if they’re being fed?

#87

This is just a thought and I don’t know if it has been done already. With AC overwhelmed by cases taking precedent, have the people who had mares there contacted the Governor’s office? The State Representative/Senator for that district? The US Senators/Representatives? In their respective offices, there are case workers who deal with constituent concerns. One can call or email these politicians and someone will get back to them. Secondly, contact the media in both newspaper and television. With the Kentucky Derby fast approaching, now is the perfect time. IIRC, the Governor is a horse person and the more complaints highlighting this abuse, the quicker the action. IME this can be very, very effective.

#88

JackieBlue. Read the post earlier. It is the other way around. As far we know, nobody has given support yet.

Zuri: Excellent idea. Will investigate. We do know people that can reach them directly. Thank you for your post.

#89

[QUOTE=Jump Start Farm;7529051]
JackieBlue. Read the post earlier. It is the other way around. As far we know, nobody has given support yet.

Zuri: Excellent idea. Will investigate. We do know people that can reach them directly. Thank you for your post.[/QUOTE]

Always start at the top… :wink:

#90

One of the other AC cases involves 49 dead horses, so yes it is (unbelievably) worse than the KO situation. I agree it would be a good idea to try and go higher up w/ the officials

#91

Very sad about the 49 dead horses…but it’s too late for them…do they want/need to add these mares and be proud of those numbers? Kentucky, really? Lexington, obviously, is quite the facade… sick and sad.
My opinion and picture of KY is forever changed and not for the better.

#92

Kentucky is known for it’s lush fields, miles after miles of gorgeous white fence and barns that rival the nicest mansions. There are a lot of horses living the cushy life in KY. They don’t seem to take animal welfare very seriously however. This isn’t the first time I have heard of animals in dire need being passed over by AC.

#93

[QUOTE=Laurierace;7529500]
Kentucky is known for it’s lush fields, miles after miles of gorgeous white fence and barns that rival the nicest mansions. There are a lot of horses living the cushy life in KY. They don’t seem to take animal welfare very seriously however. This isn’t the first time I have heard of animals in dire need being passed over by AC.[/QUOTE]

All that and the worst animal welfare laws in the country.

#94

I have seen firsthand what Kate Ostermeier is capable of. I had the misfortune of boarding at the same facility several years ago, and her “colt starting” skills were truly frightening and incredibly dangerous. Think no helmet, bareback, halter and lead rope on the wall-eyed nutjob that just threw you 3 times while in hand and ran over the handler. All of this on a 40 degree, windy day. Not great 1st ride weather to anyone with any sense, and this was a horse that was in no way ready to be ridden anyway. A sane professional would have done some serious groundwork before getting on this horse, he was that bad. She was also known to local hay producers, vet clinics, and barn owners as a bad pay. I know of one instance where she had a load of hay delivered and “forgot her checkbook, I will get a check to you tomorrow,”. Hay guy said no thank you, and proceeded to load every bale back on his trailer and leave. He’s one of the only ones who hasn’t been screwed over by her. (And this was years before this latest [edit] mess, so please don’t think ill of the hay guy.) Fast forward a year or two and now she has a stallion and a herd of broodmares. I witnessed one result of her management last month when I saw a 20+yr old gelding that had been entrusted to her care. BCS of <2, worst [edit] case I have EVER seen. Poor thing had to be drug off the trailer and put in a sling, he was so weak. It made me sick to my stomach. She apparently talks a good game, but she is rotten to the core.

#95

[QUOTE=Zuri;7529023]
This is just a thought and I don’t know if it has been done already. With AC overwhelmed by cases taking precedent, have the people who had mares there contacted the Governor’s office? The State Representative/Senator for that district? The US Senators/Representatives? In their respective offices, there are case workers who deal with constituent concerns. One can call or email these politicians and someone will get back to them. Secondly, contact the media in both newspaper and television. With the Kentucky Derby fast approaching, now is the perfect time. IIRC, the Governor is a horse person and the more complaints highlighting this abuse, the quicker the action. IME this can be very, very effective.[/QUOTE]

Not to drag you down on this thought, but no-one (not even the Governor’s Office - his wife rides) gives a rat’s behind in this state when it comes to horse neglect.
Been there, done that.
Wash, rinse, repeat.

#96

I’ve learned the hard way you don’t want to start by pissing off AC or the sheriff. You need them to get anything done. Tread carefully.

#97

[QUOTE=luvmytbs;7529749]
Not to drag you down on this thought, but no-one (not even the Governor’s Office - his wife rides) gives a rat’s behind in this state when it comes to horse neglect.
Been there, done that.
Wash, rinse, repeat.[/QUOTE]

What ashame. I have always thought of Kentucky as the most horse friendly state in the country. Horses are a huge industry in that state and it would seem there would be more regulation and oversight. Hopefully the Sheriff’s Office is very good and can be instrumental in seeing this through. JMV

#98

Nope, horses are livestock literally and figuratively in KY.

#99

I really hope they don’t get the WEG in 2018. KY does not deserve any more accolades… shame, shame, shame!

#100

To the poster who sent her horse to H-McG , and then had it boarded by this woman ----- How did your horse get from H-McG to Kate? Was it your choice? Haggard’s recommendation?

Even though I know that mare is safely back home, it seems to me that some weight might be brought on H-McG to find some responsibility on their part for not notifying horse owners, allowing this woman to be involved with horses under their care and treatment, whatever.

Point being, H-McG has a reputation to uphold, and its reputation will be damaged by being associated with this woman. Perhaps H-McG can be asked/used to publicize the situation these horses are now in. It has a lot of credence in the Lex. area.

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