Kate (Katherine Leigh) Ostermeier Situation

In the interest of full disclosure, I love the movie A Few Good Men.

If your mare is in fine condition (and not thin as you’ve previously stated), verified by a vet, and animal control, and everyone else is lying, why would you need to remove her?

And why would Santiago have to be transferred off the base?

My horse is Sunny (Poppy), my name is Christian Woschenko. Maybe you should all disclose your names as well. It’s easy to throw stones when your anonymous.

Mr. Woschenko, I think you are the one throwing stones at some really nice people who are concerned about the mares. As a horse owner, sometimes it has to be about the horse and not about business. As you trust and expect people to care for your horses, these owners feel the same. No difference.

And your name is?

I am not going to question your identifying yourself as someone previously named in this thread, or that the mare, who is also named, is indeed yours. I will fully and completely accept that you are who you claim to be.

What I don’t understand is if someone notified you that your horse was in bad condition, and you made arrangements to move the horse, then discovered it was all a lie, why did you

a) feel the need to move the horse if you were happy with her condition?

and

b) Why don’t you instead name the person who lied to you and out them as such?

If I had gone through what you have gone through, I would be furious at the person who lied to me, and I certainly wouldn’t feel the need to move my horse if a vet and AC assured me my horse was in good condition and did not need to be moved.

Enough is enough, believe me or not, I really don’t care.

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And your name is?[/QUOTE]

IRS

Obviously you don’t have anything better to do either since you keep coming back… and who knows, a man may be more intimidating to dear Kate…

Yep Sunny didn’t look ‘as bad’ in the last photo I saw posted of her. But then she looks very hairy, she has long hair it covers a lot, and I did see prominent withers, protruding spine and hip bones and she was standing with her head to the ground so you really could not access her lack of muscle on her neck.

Maybe she was paddock dominant as suggested. You should look at Wendy’s mares photos and have to listen to her current caregiver talk about how the life has been sucked out of her. Her eye is glazed over, there’s no spark at all, she’s not interested in anything going on around her.

And there was one big gray mare that the AC lady told me that she felt that mare was really in trouble.

But as said once the horse is removed the case is closed for that one.

The people that are incensed here are the old horseman types that their word is their honor. A few of these mares are barren (I’ll save that story for later) but good lord the rest of these mares are pregnant. Protein, fat, vitamins, minerals … count yourself lucky that your mother gave you a good start in life.

Good read on not spiking a horse’s insulin.

http://animalscience.ag.utk.edu/horse/pdf/Care&FeedingoftheStarvedHorseASH155.pdf

Refeeding syndrome occurs when large amounts of traditional high starch grains are fed to starved horses too quickly resulting in a surge of insulin secretion from the pancreas which leads to the rapid uptake of high ncentrations of glucose by the body’s cells. The glucose forces large amounts
of minerals, including potassium, phosphorus and magnesium out of the cells and into the bloodstream. The result may be heart, kidney and liver failure, and death may occur within 3 to 10 days. To avoid refeeding syndrome, starved horses must be fed gradually allowing their body chemistry to “catch up”.

My name is Jessie Hillegas. I have one of Wendy’s mares…the younger one (Sincere). If you saw her, if you had her with you, if you were feeding her and you didn’t feel sorrow for her…well then, may God help you. And there are others that are worse. Great that yours isn’t as bad Ab2002 but don’t suggest owners are blowing things out of proportion when you haven’t seen any of this in person. You haven’t even seen your OWN mare yet. You can’t go by a photo.

I smell troll

When you are entrusted with the care of someone else’s animal, you take as good if not better care of it than you would of your own. If you borrow someone’s car you don’t return it dented, covered in mud and with an empty gas tank. You said she was underweight. How underweight doesn’t matter, underweight at all is unforgivable.

Here is a pic of my 26 year old gelding taken yesterday after the hardest winter in decades in this area. It cost me a fortune to make sure he looks this way but you do what you have to do to take care of your animals.

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Here are some pictures of horses taken from Kate

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Here are pics of horses taken or still in the possession of KO: http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/Jordan_Elizabeth_Hattaway/library/Horses%20Taken%20or%20Still%20in%20Possession%20of%20KO?sort=3&page=1

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Here are pics of horses taken or still in the possession of KO: http://s1054.photobucket.com/user/Jordan_Elizabeth_Hattaway/library/Horses%20Taken%20or%20Still%20in%20Possession%20of%20KO?sort=3&page=1[/QUOTE]

Oh wow, those pictures are heartbreaking!

Well yeah that is some really funny stuff there LMAO.

I swear I would strangle her if it were one of my horses.

What was going on with the picture of the mare down with her leg through a bucket handle??

I’m with Ab2002. I don’t see what the big deal is. :eek: NOT! This woman should not be allowed to own animals. I just can’t understand thinking that it’s okay to keep living beings in this condition.

>the mare down with her leg through a bucket handle?? <

I’m afraid she’s dead or close to it. That one hoof is stuck in the stall grille and the bucket is around the leg. I can’t imagine anything good there.

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Jesus, Joseph and Mary! Those pictures make me sick…I will never understand why people do these things… Prayers they all get out there and can be nursed back to health. :frowning: