KWPN stallion Vitalis

[rodawn]

[QUOTE=Pembroke;8285447]
Akeem is a pasture puff, it seems :no:

Source:https://horsesportnews.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/charlotte-jorst/[/QUOTE]

Most of us saw how rough he was ridden under Andreas Helgestrand, so based on how much that horse endured it is amazing he stayed as happy and healthy as he has. AH was heavily criticized, fined, and suspended for what Akeem went through. There are photos, video, media reports on it. But yet AH continues unabated. He is one horse dealer I would never, ever want to buy a horse from for any purpose other than, maybe, one to use for breeding. It would be incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to rehab a riding horse who has endured the aggression to become a trusting, happy, equine partner. His gorgeous grey mare, Tørveslettens Stamina, who he focused his aggressive energies on since he sold Akeem is one mare I wish I had the money to buy, just to get her away from him.

Sabine, (Fannie Mae), spot on. Vitalis is actually not a horse I would be interested in breeding because of the weak wide-going hindquarter (the hindquarter being everything of importance in a dressage horse), and the walk killer (when the walk and canter should be the best quality in a dressage horse, with the trot being the most rider-modifiable).

Those flashy leg-flinging spaz-in-a-pan type movements have definitive weakness in other places where it really counts. I would rather have a Don Schufro or De Niro or Belantis type movement where the gaits are true to form, gliding, long-strided, rhythmic, balanced and swinging.

[rodawn]

As for Vitalis, it said in the article right on Charlotte’s blog that Vitalis was taking time off specifically to be collected and then she would decide more about him after that.

[rodawn]

[QUOTE=Pembroke;8285447]
Akeem is a pasture puff, it seems :no:

Source:https://horsesportnews.wordpress.com/2015/08/17/charlotte-jorst/[/QUOTE]

Most of us saw how rough he was ridden under Andreas Helgestrand, so based on how much that horse endured it is amazing he stayed as happy and healthy as he has. AH was heavily criticized, fined, and suspended for what Akeem went through. There are photos, video, media reports on it. But yet AH continues unabated. He is one horse dealer I would never, ever want to buy a horse from for any purpose other than, maybe, one to use for breeding. It would be incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to rehab a riding horse who has endured the aggression to become a trusting, happy, equine partner. His gorgeous grey mare, Tørveslettens Stamina, who he focused his aggressive energies on since he sold Akeem is one mare I wish I had the money to buy, just to get her away from him.

Sabine, (Fannie Mae), spot on. Vitalis is actually not a horse I would be interested in breeding because of the weak wide-going hindquarter (the hindquarter being everything of importance in a dressage horse), and the walk killer (when the walk and canter should be the best quality in a dressage horse, with the trot being the most rider-modifiable).

Those flashy leg-flinging spaz-in-a-pan type movements have definitive weakness in other places where it really counts. I would rather have a Don Schufro or De Niro or Belantis type movement where the gaits are true to form, gliding, long-strided, rhythmic, balanced and swinging.

[kdavies]

I’m curious about the going wide behind in the trot extensions . . . my trainer and FEI level judge does not like to see a horse do it although he says many stallions go wide behind to accommodate for their “extra stuff” . . . that being said, he favors horses that do not go wide behind . . . and considers “wide behind” horses are ones lacking in strength and without the idea hind leg mechanic.

Franziskus is another stallion that consistently goes wide behind in the trot extensions.

I haven’t noticed Vitalis passing on that wide behind consistently . .at least not with his gelded sons and daughters. . .but would also only use him on a mare that is correct behind (as with any Vivaldi son)

Vitalis also consistently passes on super temperaments.

[honeylips]

a Vitalis/Fidermark mare won the 4yo mare/gelding Bundeschampionate this week. Her name is Victoria’s Secret. She’s the first one undersaddle on this short clip from the champions parade.
https://youtu.be/pzOaA4VyQjI

9 for trot, 9.5 canter, 8 walk, 9 and 9 for rideablity from guest riders, 9 for training, 8.5 for conformation

Another Vitalis/Florestan finished 5th with solid 8.5 across the scores.

[DownYonder]

[QUOTE=honeylips;8312965]
a Vitalis/Fidermark mare won the 4yo mare/gelding Bundeschampionate this week. Her name is Victoria’s Secret. She’s the first one undersaddle on this short clip from the champions parade.
https://youtu.be/pzOaA4VyQjI

9 for trot, 9.5 canter, 8 walk, 9 and 9 for rideablity from guest riders, 9 for training, 8.5 for conformation

Another Vitalis/Florestan finished 5th with solid 8.5 across the scores.[/QUOTE]

I saw those results! Wonderful news for his people! I wonder if that will bring him even more mares next year.