Lasix also one of the drugs that has no place in the game

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Lasix also one of the drugs that has no place in the game
By Bill Finley
Special to ESPN.com

While horse racing is making very slow but somewhat steady progress in its fight to rid itself of scourges like steroids and a number of illegal drugs, it shouldn’t continue to ignore another drug that has no place in the game. It’s time for Lasix to go.

Anyone who still thinks Lasix is necessary would have a hard time explaining the results of the Dubai World Cup Day races. Fifteen U.S.-based horses competed and, of course, all 15 used Lasix when running in North America. The United Arab Emirates, like every other country in the world not named the United States, does not allow horses to compete on that or any other drug. But our drug dependent thoroughbreds did just fine without their fixes.

Including Curlin, who was brilliant when winning the Dubai World Cup, three American horses won on the six-race card. Plus, Idiot Proof was second in the Golden Shaheen and Well Armed was third in the Dubai World Cup. It doesn’t seem that any of our horses were put at a disadvantage because they didn’t have their supposed anti-bleeding drug. Apparently, neither were any of the 68 non-American horses who ran that day at Nad al Sheba Racecourse.

Not that this was a surprise. Since the inception of the Dubai World Cup in 1996, dozens of U.S. horses have gone to Dubai, run drug free and done just fine.

Back when Lasix was a hot-button issue and was not yet legal in all states, trainers and veterinarians argued vehemently that the drug was necessary to keep their bleeders racing. Without it, they claimed, an abundance of horses would be sidelined, unable to make money for their owners and fill out racing cards. Racing commissions and commissioners bought it. In 1995, the lone holdout, New York, caved in, and Lasix was officially everywhere.

As the years went on, the idea that Lasix was strictly for the horses who needed something to help their bleeding problems became a joke. On any day at any track, virtually every horse racing runs on Lasix. On the same day as the Dubai World Cup, 107 horses raced at Gulfstream and 105 of them ran on Lasix. That includes all 12 starters in the Florida Derby. That these 105 horses all have bleeding problems is laughable.

Now, trainers use Lasix not to control bleeding but to make sure they are on a level playing field with everyone else. Horsemen obviously believe that their horses will run faster with Lasix than without it (which could simply be a case of horses being lighter after they take Lasix because, as a diuretic, it causes horses to lose water weight), and they don’t want to be the one guy out there without that edge.

Thirteen years after New York legalized Lasix, we should be seeing the fruits of the medication. With the help of this drug, horses should be running more than ever and lasting longer than ever and 12-horse fields should be the norm.

It turns out that exactly the opposite has happened. In 1970, before Lasix had permeated racing’s landscape, the average number of starts per runner per year was 10.22. It’s now down to an alarmingly low 6.31. During that same period, the average field size has fallen from 8.62 to 8.17.

It can’t be a coincidence that the introduction of Lasix came at precisely the time a trend began whereby horses make fewer and fewer starts each year. It appears that Lasix has done the exact opposite of what its proponents said it would do, which, if you think about it, makes perfect sense. Horses that have to rely on a drug to get through their race day don’t figure to last as long as the ones that gets by on mere hay, oats and water.

So, it appears that Lasix doesn’t solve bleeding or keep horses in training longer. Then what does it do? According to the World Anti-Doping Agency, it masks other drugs. That’s why it is on its list of banned drugs, which means athletes competing in the Olympics are not permitted to use it.

Lasix is a fraud. There is strong evidence that it is detrimental to the long-term well-being of the horse and some of the world’s most respected scientists say it can mask other drugs. Its pervasive use adds to racing’s image as an outlaw sport where drug use is rampant. Besides Canada, no other country in the world allows it. Yet, its usage here is out of control and no one seems to want to do anything about it. That needs to change.

Bill Finley is an award-winning racing writer whose work has appeared in the New York Times, USA Today and Sports Illustrated. Contact Bill at wnfinley@aol.com.

I’m in total agreement!

[QUOTE=moonriverfarm;3118636]
I’m in total agreement![/QUOTE]

Me too!

Sounds like this clown has never had a horse come back from a race, drop his head, and bleed for 3 hours from the nose.

Also, the masking drugs statement is ludicrous and outdated.

[QUOTE=moonriverfarm;3118636]
I’m in total agreement![/QUOTE]

Me too!

Just my opinion but if a horse can’t race without drugs, he shouldn’t be racing.

[QUOTE=Lora;3120725]
Me too!

Just my opinion but if a horse can’t race without drugs, he shouldn’t be racing.[/QUOTE]

That’s not practical and if you are in the business you should know that. While Lasix is abused, it does have a role in the game. If you want to pick a fight about Lasix, then blame states like Kentucky who allow trainers to just “put” their horses on Lasix w/out an endoscopic exam. I only give 3-4 CC’s before a race and I don’t consider that to be an inhumane practice at all.

So Dick, how is it that you figure the rest of the world is able to manage to race horses just fine without it?

Why do the lungs bleed?
Is it a way the body is telling us that something is wrong?

I’m not sure the author of the article has done the research, but I don’t think you can equate the use of Lasix to the decline in races run for a horse from the 70’s until now. I think much of that has to deal with breeding and bone structure. Horses in the 70’s and before weren’t nearly as slight and fine boned as the one’s you currently see on the track.

I know many people don’t agree with Lasix, and I’m on the fence. But for those against it, care to share your first-hand experience with it, not just spectator observations?

I’m not defending it at all, but I’ve used it on race horses before. And know the proper uses, etc.

This is more of Lora’s PETA crap she finds on the internet and spews forth to disparage horse racing.

If you dont work in the racing industry you have no clue. You cant speculate and form a valid opinion of something you have no idea about.

Weighing in from the STB world:

It’s pretty prevalent and I do not, in the least, have a problem with it. The only things I can say about in agreement to the above article it is it’s overused (as in it’s pretty easy to get a horse on it, even if they aren’t really bleeding) and it also, as I understand can be used to mask other drugs.

Had a very interesting conversation with a man from Sweden on this, actually. In Europe they do not race horses on Lasix. I asked him what happens if a horse starts to bleed, and he says they just quit with them. I cannot say that I necessarily agree with that school of thought. We’ve got an older gelding, 8, that’s raced on it since he was 4 or 5. He’s made a buttload of $$. Now, he is not a tremendous, horrible bleeder, but Lasix certainly helps him as he DOES bleed somewhat.

You will also note here in the states, generally, that horses in the higher echelon of performance tend not to be on it as frequently as those in the lower levels. Probably a testament to their natural athleticism and aptitude as a high-performance animal. However, just because a horse requires Lasix doesn’t mean they shouldn’t race, considering in many cases you can completely eradicate the problem with the use of Lasix.

Just my two cents, I guess.

can you explain how it is used to mask other drugs ?? i mean if they are medicated and the lasix forces them to urinate the meds are still in their blood stream or not ?? or is that just a theory ?? i do like your response to this thread. lets also take into consideration a few other things versus the 70s to today. how about all of the pollution and stuff in the air that perhaps was not so strong yrs ago. sadly many in the horse world medicate and people are so quick to say the racetrackers are bad well at the track we all know they get drug tested when they win or place. i wish they would do this at the horse shows especially after my daughter’s previous pony trainer told me about one pony she gave ONE HUNDRED methacarbamol pills to show on bc she couldnt “get her to the ring” otherwise. those who know the track know that we are not to give iv shots etc etc. the drug use at the track is monitored much more than other places.

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can you explain how it is used to mask other drugs ?? i mean if they are medicated and the lasix forces them to urinate the meds are still in their blood stream or not ?? or is that just a theory ?? i do like your response to this thread. lets also take into consideration a few other things versus the 70s to today. how about all of the pollution and stuff in the air that perhaps was not so strong yrs ago. sadly many in the horse world medicate and people are so quick to say the racetrackers are bad well at the track we all know they get drug tested when they win or place. i wish they would do this at the horse shows especially after my daughter’s previous pony trainer told me about one pony she gave ONE HUNDRED methacarbamol pills to show on bc she couldnt “get her to the ring” otherwise. those who know the track know that we are not to give iv shots etc etc. the drug use at the track is monitored much more than other places.[/QUOTE]

The masking notion is way outdated and really crushed the credibility of the author. With ELISA testing, you can’t mask anything. If it’s in there, they can piss 200 gallons of urine and it will still show up on the blood tests.

[QUOTE=Galileo1998;3120783]
So Dick, how is it that you figure the rest of the world is able to manage to race horses just fine without it?[/QUOTE]

Oh, horses overseas bleed a lot. You just choose to hear what you want to hear and ignore everything else. Why do you think when the horses come over here for the Breeders Cup they run on Lasix most of the time?

I have a friend who felt the way Lola does and stopped giving Lasix to all her horses until one died from so much lung hemorhaging during a race that the horse had a heart attack during the race.

[QUOTE=Jessi P;3121135]
This is more of Lora’s PETA crap she finds on the internet and spews forth to disparage horse racing.

If you dont work in the racing industry you have no clue. You cant speculate and form a valid opinion of something you have no idea about.[/QUOTE]

Not - PETA didn’t write this article – I really have no feeling for PETA one way or the other - but they do seem to be a bit extreme.

Horses were designed for the ultimate flight in the fight or flight decision. Their abdomen works like bellows in that their intestines push forward during one phase of the stride, pushing a great deal of air out of the lungs, and then on the next phase of the stride they slosh backwards creating extra space for the lungs to expand, giving the horse top oxygen availabilty to outrun their predators. They do not however, have to outrun their predators for a mile and a 1/16th or a mile and a quarter etc. The mechanism that allows them peak speed also predisposes them to bleeding when we attempt to stretch that peak speed out past what it was created to do. I believe that all race horses bleed to a certain extent. Maybe not every race, but they will eventually if you race them enough, so I put them on medications to attempt to prevent that. I don’t think lasix is a cure all but at the moment it is the best we have and not to give the horses the best we have would be inhumane in my opinion.

Really, where? I spent five years living in the UK and working in the racing industry and there wasn’t “a lot” of horses bleeding. It happens the odd time, but it’s rare to see. If a horse is a serious bleeder they either stop racing them, or send them to North America.

Well, according to Aidan and to Sir Michael it’s so that they can have the same advantages that the “home team” have.

[QUOTE=Galileo1998;3122096]
Really, where? I spent five years living in the UK and working in the racing industry and there wasn’t “a lot” of horses bleeding. It happens the odd time, but it’s rare to see. If a horse is a serious bleeder they either stop racing them, or send them to North America.

Well, according to Aidan and to Sir Michael it’s so that they can have the same advantages that the “home team” have.[/QUOTE]

How common are post-exercise endoscopic exams in the UK?

Um, this statement is a blatant lie and you know it. They ignore the horses who bleed internally, but not out the nostrils.

No, it’s not. I would suspect though that they generally don’t go looking for an something that isn’t causing a problem in order to put their horses on drugs they don’t need and can’t legally use though. :yes:

Nobody has yet been able to explain to me why we NEED Lasix over here, when every other racing country in the world seems to manage just fine without it, AND have lower breakdown rates while maintaining a higher average of yearly and lifetime starts?

At Lingfield in England today there are seven races on the card, ranging in distance from 5 furlongs to 1 1/2 miles. There are 6 two year olds in the five furlong race, two races with 8 entries, two with 9 entries, one with 11 and one with 14. The horses range in age from 2 to 8, and there are entries with 20+, 30+, 40+, 50+, 60+ and even 70+ lifetime starts, all done without drugs, and all sound enough to be racing today without drugs. These may not be the superstars of the racehorse world, but they are out there doing the job they were bred to do and providing entertainment for the fans and betting public.