Let's talk about donkeys

Hello everyone,

Long story short, I need a pasture companion for a gelding that can be a bit aggressive with other herd mates. He is not doing as well alone and I don’t have a horse here that I feel comfortable putting him with. I was thinking of a gelded donkey - tough, won’t take any crap from him … but I’m wondering will the donkey be aggressive in return? He’s my main riding horse, I don’t want him to get hurt. What are people’s opinions of this?

I wouldn’t mind a smaller mule for the same job but I can’t seem to find an inexpensive one.

TIA

From a very very small sample, I would say donks are individuals. With highly individual preferences and characteristics… Our donk is a conflict avoider - though she will make quite the array of sounds if someone approaches her hay pile, if they get there and lay their ears back, she will move on to less contested food. Given that some donkeys will kill canine intruders to the pasture, I certainly wouldn’t ant to guarantee nonaggression for the species,

I will say Shortcake is very very good at assessing the situation. The first time or two she met my farrier or I tried to treat her thrush, she was all, Run away! Run away! , but after a couple go-rounds she got positively easy to treat.

Don’t know her backstory, but she had definitely been around the block when we got her - and I don’t believe for a minute she had been abused in any of her laps! Your donks’ mileage may vary… They are very smart critters, well able to make situational judgements, I would have to say.

My donkey is the same as Jeanette’s – the lowest on the pecking order and absolutely positively not aggressive. I would never put her in with an aggressive horse as she’d get clobbered.

I know someone that bought a donkey for company for a horse that was injured and needed to be kept quiet in a smaller space.

Well, the donkey didn’t like that horse, or the horse the donkey.
The donkey stayed all the time by the fence interacting with the horse next door.
They put the donkey with the other horse and they were instant good friends.
So much for a donkey for company for the horse that needed company.

Moral of this story, whatever you get, see that they really are a match, or be sure you can return the companion if not, so you may keep looking for a better match.

There’s definitely still the whole compatibility dynamic, just like introducing any new animal to a herd. Like Bluey said, there’s a chance they may not be a good match personality-wise.

But I also agree with Jeannette and SMF11-- my own donkey is very good about looking out for herself and not getting in a bad situation, though. She runs rather than retaliating.

When I got my donkey, I had just moved my older gelding and a mare home. They desperately needed a third companion. They formed their opinions of the donkey instantly: the gelding fell head over heals in love with her and the mare tried to kill her the first chance she got.

My mare got over her thirst for donkey blood, but has never really warmed up to the donkey. She tolerates her, interacts with her sometimes, but mainly just chases her off when she gets too close. Despite a lot of ugly faces and the occasional hooves flying, the donkey has never gotten as much as a nick on her. When my older gelding passed, the mare and donkey forged an uneasy friendship out of necessity. That ended as soon as a new horse was in the mix.

The new horse loves the donkey just like my old guy did. Two outta three ain’t bad.

My donkey is the love of every gelding here…she handles herself well and carefully and avoids all conflict. She is also known, when necessary, to walk under a horse to get away from another interested party. Has never had a nick on her; has never been seen to get any where near a hoof from anyone. Though, to be fair, they all treat her extremely well. Perhaps it’s gender? She’s female/my herd is all geldings. ?

Donkey jennies are saints. It’s because they have to deal with donkey jacks, who really do live up to the name jackass. Our donkey gelding is amusing, demanding and a real character. He also plays dirty when he play fights with the horses and is generally overbearing around females. We love him, but he takes careful management. I don’t regret getting Donkeyotee, but I thought I would give an honest opinion of donkey geldings, for those considering adding one to their herd.

My jenny Esther is a love bug. If she finds herself in the middle of a conflict she scoots away. The only critter she puts in their place is me when she thinks I’m tossing hay too late in the day then she hee-haws. :slight_smile:

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Donkey jennies are saints. It’s because they have to deal with donkey jacks, who really do live up to the name jackass. Our donkey gelding is amusing, demanding and a real character. He also plays dirty when he play fights with the horses and is generally overbearing around females. We love him, but he takes careful management. I don’t regret getting Donkeyotee, but I thought I would give an honest opinion of donkey geldings, for those considering adding one to their herd.[/QUOTE]

I have a pony mule gelding, and he’s similar to Microbovine’s jack. He’s the life of the party, and will incessantly nag at anyone he’s turned out with. (“I’m not touching you…I’m not tooouccchhhiinnggg youuuuuu!”) That is fine when he’s turned out with someone calm. He also plays ROUGH. I can easily see it going badly if he were turned out with an actual aggressive horse.

I think OP should consider a jenny, but I also think that she should consider making Mr. Aggressive Gelding just suck it up and live alone…such is the penalty for being an ass. I am less concerned about him getting injured…it would really be a shame if the donkey got injured. They can take a tumble, but the bottom line is that they’re still little.

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Donkey jennies are saints. It’s because they have to deal with donkey jacks, who really do live up to the name jackass. Our donkey gelding is amusing, demanding and a real character. He also plays dirty when he play fights with the horses and is generally overbearing around females. We love him, but he takes careful management. I don’t regret getting Donkeyotee, but I thought I would give an honest opinion of donkey geldings, for those considering adding one to their herd.[/QUOTE]

We also have a donkey gelding and I will respectfully disagree with your generalization of donkey geldings. Our donkey Sparky is pretty much always low man on the totem pole and generally is a situation avoider as described by others above. Although some horses are scared of him when they first see those long ears they very quickly warm up to him. Sparky is always very popular no matter who he lives with. He has also lived with mares and was also the bottom of the pecking order with them as well and definitely never acted studdish in any way.

Thanks for all the replies. Do the Jenny donkeys act “marish”? Would they tease a gelding like mares do?

This horse needs a buddy because he has taken up self mutilation as a hobby since the prior buddy was removed. He is out 24/7 in a large pasture by himself, 24/7 hay not to mention a field full of grass, worked 5 days a week, generally all his needs are met and then some.

He is a cribber and wears a collar, so I think he is just prone to these OCD behaviors. I would love to tell him to suck it up, but that is hard to do when you see him spinning in circles ripping chunks of flesh out of his flanks.

He nips/plays/chases herd companions; he’s a bit studdish in his attitude, not terrible but it’s noticeable. He’s never seriously hurt anyone, but he likes to nip and “herd” pasture mates around the field. Not sure if a donkey will tolerate him, but I need to think of something. I’d love to take a chance on a goat but I have 3 board fencing and I think the goat would go right through.

My donkey has lived with two horses.

My previous horse was sensitive, flighty, and studly (gelded late in life). I was afraid he would beat the donkey up. Instead, Eeyore ruled the roost! He flipped his tail, and my sensitive horse backed up promptly! Had the horse not been the bigger of the two, he would have gotten nothing to eat or drink.

My current horse is gentle, social, and unflappable. I thought Eeyore would love him. Instead, my current horse walks all over Eeyore – the key phrase here being “walks all over.” He doesn’t aggress on Eeyore. He just literally walks past him, through him, or over him like Eeyore isn’t there. When Eeyore gives him warning signals, Oden pays no attention. I’ve had to arrange the feed situation carefully to be sure Eeyore gets his share.

Moral of the story: It depends.

A john donkey might work. They will pal up but won’t tolerate BS…

Self-mutilation sucks, I had a horse that did that. Hard habit to break. I found giving him different toys helped (balls, traffic cones).

OP, just be wary of introducing a companion that might feel abandoned when you take your horse out to ride. That might open up a new can of worms.

Donkeyotee, ha ha ha haha!

Adding someone just to be a companion seems like an easy solution, but my experience was that you just end up with more problems. I have no experience at all with self-mutilation, but it makes me wonder about possible ulcers. Because it sounds like he is in an ideal situation otherwise.

I think it’s hard to tell. Can you foster for a rescue with a really good matchmaker? I’ve done a lot of fostering, and our local rescues horse people are amazing at finding horses who fit my situation.

My donkey is adorable and a decent companion. The horses prefer the other horses, but are satisfied with just donkey when that’s who they get.

I think it’s hard to tell. Can you foster for a rescue with a really good matchmaker? I’ve done a lot of fostering, and our local rescues horse people are amazing at finding horses who fit my situation.

My donkey is adorable and a decent companion. The horses prefer the other horses, but are satisfied with just donkey when that’s who they get.

I agree it varies.
OUr donkey (Jenny) Indy was a love bug and a very good companion for aggressive gelding.

When she died, we got little mule/hinny Simon who himself is pretty aggressive and can be pushy. He also has been good company (yes, threw massive temper tantrums when gelding went out without him a few times but is much better now) for Mr. Aggressive Gelding.

If you want absolutely FANTASTIC advice on this, I recommend Save Your Ass Donkey adn Mule rescue in New hampshire. Ann is the most knowledgable, helpful and patient person and is wonderful with her furry folk there. She has tons of donkey/mule wisdom and could also offer you some ideas (if not an actual donkey!)

http://www.saveyourassrescue.org/

One of the problems you may run into, assuming all goes well with the introduction of a donkey, is the situation with your grass. My two late donks, a gelding and a jenny, lived in the same fields with my 2 heavies. They never interacted with my late Clyde who wanted desperately to have a relationship with them. My late Shire mare wanted nothing to do with the donkeys. After a few years together, my farrier felt the donks were getting a bit chunky on our green, green grass and suggested separating them from the horses would be in the best interests of the donkeys. We made a paddock within one of the horse fields and kept the donkeys in that field, with their own field shelter. From what I’ve typed it appears that all my animals have died. Actually, the Clyde died of colic at 18 1/2 years of age. The Shire was 24 years old when we lost her. The gelding donkey was in his 30’s, and the jenny died in a freak accident at 15. I had them for many, many years.

I decided to try and acquire a Baudet du Poitou donkey for my jenny after my old gelding died. I was able to purchase a Poitou foal from a conservation herd not too far from our farm. However, she was too young to wean, so, in the interim I purchased a 5 year old jenny from France. She arrived within the week, took to my jenny, and became fast friends. A month later, the 7 months old jenny foal arrived and the three girls formed a lovely little family after about 5 weeks. My young Shire geldings interact with the Poitou girls all the time, over the fence. The boys are so large I have been reluctant to let them into the same fields…just in case the play gets a bit rough. I do allow the Poitous into a large field for several hours during the day, but bring them into the smaller paddock at night. Apparently, being such large donkeys, the French have traditionally kept them on large, green fields 24/7.

Most donkeys, except the mammoth jacks, are quite small in comparison to a horse. The amount of green forage we provide for horses, is really too rich for the majority of donkeys. That goes for grains and mixes. Donkeys don’t need rich feed. It must be remembered that donkeys are not horses with long ears. Their medical parameters and needs are specific to them. A vet once wrote that the difference between horses and donkeys is comparable to the difference between cattle and sheep.

I have found the Poitous very amenable to people and other animals. My late donkeys LOVED children, but could be a bit aloof with adults. They did not like our sheep or horses and would have killed the cat.

When my late jenny was in season, she would back up to my late gelding, pee and wink, and chew. There was no mistaking her seasons, every three weeks. My old gelding donk used to accommodate her and would mount and “do the deed.” Yes, even as a gelding (and he was gelded young)! Conversely, the Poitous never give me an indication they are in season. It could be because they are not living with a gelding. So, if you are thinking of getting a jenny…

Everyone has given you good advice. I’d keep in mind with the aggressive gelding…donkeys are not really fast enough to escape a running horse with destruction on his mind!! Years ago we had a TB race horse (gelding) who was a bit of a fruit loop…we put two standard donkeys in his paddock with a corner blocked off (safe pen) that the donkeys could get in, but not the horse. Good news was the donkeys settled the TB down…bad news was TB got soooooo possessive of the donkeys NO ONE could go in the paddock to handle the race horse to bring him back to the stable!! He went back to being a bachelor!! We put the same donkeys in with a TB show horse and it went VERY well. The horse was such a pest that any horse we put him with got tired of his BS and injured him. With two donkeys they could take turns playing with the horse. Good luck with your venture. Donkeys are the best companions…just make sure the donkey is safe.