Let's talk (more) about the adult equitation

Late last fall I started this thread. At that point in time, I really thought I was going to go back into the eventing world.

What a difference a year can make (yesterday was the one year anniversary of breaking my leg on xc).

I have been all over the place in what I want to do with my horse. I have thought about doing nothing but dressage, a combination of both dressage and show jumping, some hunting, pretty much anything you can do in an english saddle EXCEPT eventing. No desire to go back.

I’ve only recently started jumping again (I jumped once- just an x a couple of times- early on in the spring, but then had a bunch of oral surgery that has kept me careful), and I am now realizing that I still love to jump and while all the dressage I’ve done this year has been good for us and I completely understand the purpose of it (And wouldn’t stop it completely), my heart belongs to jumping things…not the sandbox. The break, I think, was perfect for us both, as we’ve both been very calm and relaxed in our couple of jump schools (one in a lesson and one solo).

Here’s the thing. While jumpers seems like a logical place to go with this horse, I am not a speed fiend. Neither is he. We’re both a little careful, especially now after our crash. We like technical, but, at least in the Ch/AA divisions, I think we’re often going to find ourselves down the order a ways because I’m not aggressive enough about speed nor willing to leave out strides to get the speed that is so often required in that 3’6" and below level of jumpers. I still WANT to do them (and challenge ourselves to be faster and use our mad dressage skills to get things done without being balls to the walls), but I cycled back to the equitation again for the technicality and skill focus.

I’m no longer worried about the height. I don’t even know if I’ll have the guts to get up to where I once was (hopefully!). I’m just curious now about if it is even worth spending the money on the classes, at least in my area. I’m thinking about the VHSA and Ariat medals. There was also an interesting looking M & S class that was 3’3", I think. Does anyone in my area actually do any of these for their own merit, and not just as warm ups?

Like I said in that old thread, I have a nice, athletic, game little horse that is well schooled and it has been said that he’d make a good little Eq horse. He will NEVER be a hunter. He’s a technician that likes a challenge.

I’ve yet to have a serious discussion about this with the coach I ride with (she’s only give me one lesson since I’ve gotten back into jumping), but we did talk briefly about it last year after the last thread. She was game then, and I think would be game now to help me.

Any thoughts? I’ve done some searches and stuff and most of the general consensus seems to be the classes don’t fill and are mostly just used as warm ups. Is that really the case? Does no one really do them for the sake of doing them? I watched some videos the other day, and the courses look like fun!

I have a couple of friends who do the Ariat-to win, not to warm up. Both ride older Jumpers stepping down and both are…errr…stepping down themselves and no longer relish go fast jump high, or even not so high at speed in the Ch/Ad.

Classes filling is dependent on area, it can be hard to find enough Adults who want to. But it does well enough on larger circuits.

One option might be the all ages local and regional club medals with adjusted heights. Yes, you have to compete against the Juniors but even in the Ariat, you get the just aged out slender youngsters. You can deal with that. And it’s fun, not to expensive.

First as far as jumpers go -you can be competitive in jumpers by riding technical and knowing where and how to shave off time w/o being a speed demon. For adult equitation and medal classes for now are there local show series you could aim for initially i.e like VHSA Associate shows or MD regional shows? Those would be less expensive than doing the rated classes - several years ago a woman at my barn used my horse for some of the adult medals - she didn’t go to many shows - just some at Morven Park and maybe in PA? The classes seemed to fill then but sorry can’t say if they do now.

Perhaps there are lower derbies available in your area?

I’ve been wanting to start my Eq career with the Ariat the past three shows I’ve been at - only one filled (in TN) and my horse was not feeling it that weekend so we scratched. I’m REALLY hoping that they’ll fill at the bigger shows I go to on the east coast this fall because I evented through my junior years and never go the chance to do the Mcclay and Pessoa, but I love love love the Eq now!

OP, looks like you are in Middleburg. Come North and join us for our Central PA HJSA Adult Eq. Runs with 3. This year we offered a 2’6" and 3’ heights. No guarantees it fills every weekend but has been picking up steam. Nice finals at Harrisburg Farm Show. MHSA Adult Medal also has a great Finals. Runs at 3’ with 4 entries. Unless the Ariat goes with a lot of entires very hard to qualify.
From you easy drive to Swan Lake and some of the other venues for CPJHSA and MHSA. Hope that helps. As an added bonus we are very friendly!

Yellowbritches, I have every intention of getting back into the Adult medals once Marty is a solid citizen at 3’! I used to do them with Linc but could never be really competitive because of his wonky lead changes. I like the MHSA 3’ Adult Medal. I assume VHSA has something similar? The Ariat medal looks fun too, but you have to go to the A shows and it’s more $$$.

The MHSA and VHSA Adult Medals are both offered at 3’ and qualifying for their finals is a very realistic proposition. The MHSA finals are always held at the Bay State Classic at McDonogh School in August and the VHSA is at Lexington. At least in Maryland, qualifying for the Ariat is tough. It will fill with 1 entry and there is mandatory open numerical scoring and a work-off (even with 1) so it’s a good practice class, but you just can’t get the point totals you’d need to go to finals, if that becomes a goal for you.

Thanks for the real love, you guys. Maybe I’ll keep the focus on VHSA and MHSA. What are the courses like?

And another question: since Toby has never done any type of hunter showing, would it be prudent to do a little prep work by going ahead and showing in some flat classes before I want to get serious next year, to prepare for flat work portions, etc. He’s surprisingly chill in warm up rings, even crazy eventing ones, but he’s never done any sort of rail class.

Sure, why not. Welcome to the other side:D

You know, YB, after watching the video of your fall last year? I am glad you even look at a jump anymore let alone in a CC context -with dogs. I have a hunch you are… cough cough…over 30.

And your what COTH classics to read during your convalescence thread is one of my favorites, sort of the Great Cloth Trainwreck Thread. You ought to add the link for that one in your sig line. Classic recap that give us lot of hilarious reading as we shared the after effects of your wreck.

Anyway, we Hunter and Eq folk get an often undeserved bad wrap. These local and regional USEF affiliates and independents that run year end points? Kick in the a*s fun to participate in. Mostly welcoming and supportive. GREAT year end awards banquets, you can dress up, socialize and get a nice room to recover before driving home;). Good fun.

Mostly, everybody has their own issues with horses, finances or skill that makes then very unlikely to look down on anybody else but the competence level is pretty darn good and many also do the rateds.

Come on over and have some fun, meet new folk and enjoy your nice horse in good company.

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And another question: since Toby has never done any type of hunter showing, would it be prudent to do a little prep work by going ahead and showing in some flat classes before I want to get serious next year, to prepare for flat work portions, etc. He’s surprisingly chill in warm up rings, even crazy eventing ones, but he’s never done any sort of rail class.[/QUOTE]

At least in my area, the MHSA and VHSA medals tend to be modified hunter courses. You can expect at least one related distance and at least one rollback turn and a bending or broken line is common. You are also likely to see a fence at the end of the ring set off of a shorter turn or a more challenging approach, especially if the class is sharing the ring with the Children’s or especially Junior Hunters, which often also host the junior equitation. I have not seen as many combinations lately as I used to when I was actively showing in the classes myself. On the flat, you’ll be asked to walk, trot, canter, and show the sitting trot. You may also be asked to show a lengthening of stride at trot and canter, reverse direction at any gait (if at canter, the type of lead change to use will usually be specified.) You will very rarely be asked to show the counter canter, but it does happen on occasion. Your horse will be expected to accept the bridle and be consistent in the contact throughout all gaits, as in dressage. Typically the hunter type of carriage is seen- more long and low than what I have seen in dressage.

Tip would like to advise Toby that showing in some flat classes in the hunter ring would be good prep work. It was an adjustment for him for sure. Part of that is that he’s so darn ADHD, but it’s also a good trial run to see if your horse is going to be at all reactive to prompts over the loudspeaker, the judge’s walkie talkie squealing, and so on. I’d also suggest showing over fences while you’re there, because why not, and even if your horse isn’t a hunter type it’s good experience to ride hunter lines set at a given stride and practice that particular metric of canter!

Maybe we’ll see you around at some shows next year! My sister is going to be showing in the adult eq at 3’ and I’ll probably tag along with Tip where the low adult amateur equitation classes are offered at 2’6".

Thank you for the warm welcome!

I am a smidge over 30, happy to not have to do horses for a living anymore, am ok with leaving my lifelong desires to be on a team behind me. Really, I just really love my horse, have a total blast with him, and just want to do fun things that we might both enjoy without scaring the crap out of us again!

It would be fun to find a little niche for us, and maybe keeping it low key, at least for awhile, is the way to do it. And, besides, I LOVE showing in the coliseum at VA Horse Center! Any excuse to jump in there is ok in my book!

And then there’s the fashion…do I HAVE to find a D ring or go in a pelham to look the part?? We really like our little loose ring! :wink: All said thoroughly tongue in cheek!

Many local HJA’s offer a local or regional equitation medal that is both competitive and fun! Our area (Connecticut) has an adult, modified and masters medal that have a year end final that is well done with great prizes and is a real accomplishment to win or place. We also have the New England Horsemans Council adult medal, which again has a wonderful final.

Hopefully, you can find something similar in your area - good luck!!

I’ve been texting with my coach about this. She is all about it. “Be prepared to jump without your irons.”

Damnit. :eek::lol:

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I’ve been texting with my coach about this. She is all about it. “Be prepared to jump without your irons.”

Damnit. :eek::lol:[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the equitation. You can take your stirrups off before you come in the ring. You will not be needing them.

If it will help at all with your coach, the MHSA medal has not done that one in recent memory, and I’ve worked, watched, or competed in the finals for the last 10 years. :lol:

In addition to your state finals, you might want to consider the Southeast Medal Finals. I am not sure if you have to be zone 4 to do it?

There are a number of ways to qualify for it and it does not involve chasing points or just doing A shows. Here is a link:

http://www.southeastmedalfinals.com/#!event-info/c1ztv

Good luck!

Oh, one more thing too. You could also do your zone finals in the adult eq. This means going to the show and participating in the finals classes in your division. Look under Finals in your zone page on USEF. I agree though as well that your local association eq finals are awesome. My DD did GHJA children’s medal final and it was very serious and tons of fun. They had a draw party with all the trophy displays, speeches, etc., the day before. At the final they had three big name judges and one was the president of USHJA at the time. Kind of cool!

YB, hear me out on this one, but I highly recommend taking Toby for a spin around the 3’ hunters as well! The courses will often be quite similar, sometimes the only difference between the hunter class and the medal class is a rollback and maybe a fence at the end of the ring. And, coming from the eventing side, you guys could use the mileage because you want your medal round to look more like a hunter trip than a stadium trip. Finally, why go through all the trouble of schlepping to a hunter show just for one class? Enter a hunter division while you’re at it.

Look. I show Linc in the Adult Amateurs when the mood strikes. If I can toodle around the hunter ring on my paint draft for sh!ts and grins then why not you and Toby too? :smiley: