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So I’m more of a show jumping history nerd in a few ways than I am an eventing history nerd - not that I don’t love eventing and its history but I’m a bit more well-versed in show jumping history (keep in mind, though, I’m in my late 20s so basically everything I’m about to write about was all waaaaaaaaaaaaay before my time.) because of a horse-related history/research project I’ve spent several years digging into. Your point about people buying made horses and how there’s such a stigma made me think.

So, look back through show jumping history - and I’m going define “made” in the absolute loosest sense here (horse is competing at a relatively high level but may have various degrees of “rideability” or definitely not be an “easy” ride).

Nautical, AKA “The Horse with the Flying Tail” (Disney movie was not at all the real story). Hugh Wiley bought Nautical from Pat Dixon in 1955. Dixon was the trainer at Millarden farm back in the '50s (read the USET Book of Riding published in the mid-70s, per Wiley’s own essay on Nautical, he needed a horse for the team, Nautical, then known as Injun Joe, was available), would probably be considered, by most standards a “made” horse, competing on the national circuit at the NHS, PA National and so on in the professional jumper classes before Wiley bought the horse to ride on the USET from '55 to 1960.

Another old-school/throwback example, in its own way - Ksar D’Esprit. Bred, actually, by Wiley’s grandfather’s farm for hunter/jumpers (there’s one picture floating around of a young Hugh Wiley riding Ksar D’Esprit circa the late 1940s), at some point Ksar D’Esprit was sold, spent time with, I think, Canada’s equestrian team w/a rider by the name of Shirley Thomas or Thompson, competing internationally, Eleonora Sears bought him and gave him to the USET. Again, probably could be considered a "made " horse.

I guess, my point here is - that’s been part of the upper levels of almost any equestrian sport for as long as the sport has existed.

My two cents, for what they’re worth? Honestly, I think people just like it better when they see the rarer instances where the rider trained the horse up themselves because it makes for a better/more satisfying/happier “story” - maybe it’s just the writer/journalist in me, but I think people just like a happy, feel-good story and who doesn’t love the concept of finding a young horse that’s maybe a bit of a diamond in the rough, bringing it up the ranks and so on. And of course, it’s great when that happens, but it doesn’t always happen!

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I once read that the average Badminton or Kentucky clean-up collects about 30 shoes off the cross-country course.

Clean-ups pick up shoes from racetracks as well, even at some of the biggest name races.

Horses lose shoes in high-effort performance. They just do. It doesn’t cripple or lame them.

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To me, to finish off the analysis, compare with other BNR’s in those same competitions. Are others also getting warned, or is it just OT? I ask because if stewarding is overly sensitive it will show up in the warnings being passed out more generously.

But if OT is the only one hitting these buttons, or one of a very few, that is telling.

Looks as if someone has done that up-thread, and OT isn’t smelling all that good in comparison with the general lot of BNR’s.

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This is why I love COTH. You ROCK!!

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Excellent point. I would guess that all team hopefuls, even those who believe their names are already written down in ink, are seriously developing their alternate calendar plan for another No-Olympic Year.

In the early going of the international pandemic, Japan was reporting almost no cases, BUT Japan was NOT TESTING during the first months! That’s one way to keep the positive results down. Not the recommended methodology for controlling a pandemic.

Now they are testing and its carnage.

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They sell them in the KY Campground store as souvenirs. If you’re missing a favorite stud you lost look there!

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Coming out of the water was Long Island T. Tsetserleg fell much later (fence 26?), the same place where William Fox-Pitt fell.

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Yes! I especially want to know what bridle Kevin McNab’s horse’s has on in the jog. It’s beautiful. It’s in the Chronicle photos from the 2nd jog, Scuderia 1918 Don Quidam. If anyone knows, please post!

And… right on time, we’re right back to being castigated on FB because UL riders think the few armchair quarterbacks commenting (that the number of horse and rider falls were too many, etc.) are representative of the entire amateur eventing community. :roll_eyes: The divide continues…

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Noelle Floyd had a series with some show jumpers, there’s a few more I didn’t post

Ashlee Bond


Richars Spooner

Beezie

Kent
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After watching the Spooner one twice, I still don’t understand how that specially invented bit works - I’m having trouble seeing which parts go in the mouth, and where that big loop goes? It must be above my pay grade :joy:

The loop is a solid “curb chain”, maybe that helps?

Ok, that made sense when the other lady showed that “chilean bit” (that I also had to google, but doesn’t seem like it a one-type-fits-all type thing as there were lots of different mouthpieces), but I couldn’t place it well on the spooner bit. Still a little lost, but I doubt I’ll ever have a need to try one so that’s ok!

I’m not big on crazy hardware, but these are a caliber of horses I’ve never sat on. I would imagine it’s necessary if every feature person, even Beezie, had something “unique” on their set up that made me go huh?

Maybe someday I’ll get an opportunity to learn why these bits exist! :rofl:

My only comment to this is: if upper level pros want the sport to be public and grow the sport, they HAVE to learn to ignore what they read online.

Im not condoning outright mean or bullying posts which I have seen about ML elsewhere.

But discussion, talk of replay and analyzing rides is part of the enjoying the sport. That’s part of having a fan base.

If you push Eventing into mainstream you now have to deal with all those people who don’t understand it and want to throw torches over little things like losing shoes or riding in the rain like we have seen up thread.

I’m not condoning mean posts but discussing what someone failed to do or could do better isn’t being mean. It’s just discussion. It’s being a fan.

I hope all the upper level riders reading this thread know that we love and and are passionate about the sport and no one is saying these riders aren’t damn well amazing.

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I know I would need a change of pants after fence #1. They’re all cut from a super special cloth, that’s for sure.

This one? (Photo courtesy COTH)

Hmm… COTH sleuthers, activate!

It kind of reminds me of the Passier I have from the buckle style and padding style… but I don’t recognize the brand either.

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What horse is this? I’m on it :wink:

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Scuderia 1918 Don Quidam.

I still want to know what bridle Diachello was rocking in dressage, if anyone is up to a big sleuth hunt. I couldn’t find anything like it.

I think that’s an older Schockemohle. The noseband and pattern on the headstall look like it and the browband but I only see comfort headstalls in that style now.

This one?

That’s an Antares :slight_smile: I have the same one for my dressage horse :heart_eyes:

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