Looking for complete feed suitable for a senior with NSC under 10 - cushings horse

:eek: :eek: :eek: I had not checked the NSC since the addition of the Outlast. You’re right - 25%. How on earth can they think that’s a good idea?

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Their nutritionists are whack. I ran into one once on FB that was saying Omolene 200 was PERFECTLY FINE for all horses. When some articles about NSC were posted from the KER site, she said they were fake because OF COURSE KER would publish research in support of their low NSC feeds and she totally had access to papers refuting all that, but couldn’t post or share because the general public didn’t have access to those journals they were published in.

It was … special. And illuminating :lol: :lol:

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Wow… :no:

My Cushing’s senior has done great on Legends CarbCare Balancer pellet and a handful of McCauley’s Alam pellets (very low NSC feed) The balancer pellet gives him the nutrients he needs without the large quantity/volume. He was on Alam before and I have other horses on Alam so I still give him a handful for flavor. I add water to both - the Alam swells and needs to be soaked for a minute or 2 before feeding. He is shiny and does great on this!

Stabul One by NUZU will SHIP :slight_smile: At no extra cost. If you have a really good tractor supply near you they may carry it for you (although by far it smells so much fresher direct ship to your door) The NUZU company rep is great- answered my emails early on . Definitely that is the way I go with my cushings horse
Oh and edited to say the combined starch/sugar is right at 6% I believe

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Bluebonnet Ex-factor is an excellent feed with low NSC. http://bluebonnetfeeds.com/intensify…or-low-starch/

Also Bluebonnet Total Advantage is complete with only 11% NSC.

The Stabul1 feed smells amazing, and apparently tastes amazing. My horse would about try to break down his stall door when he would see me getting it ready. He just needs a ration balancer, so now he gets TC30, but we both really liked the Stabul1. We had it shipped to my house. Wonderful customer service, super-nice people, etc. In fact, I think I will go order some of their treats right now…

http://stabul1.com/stabul-treats/

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Depending on what you can get in your area… LMF Stage One is a complete feed that is formulated for metabolic horses, although they suggest the horses still get hay as well. They also make a Low NSC Complete feed that replaces hay.

Another option is to add a ration balancer to pellets - Standlee makes Timothy, Alfalfa, and Alf/Tim pellets, all low NSC. They take a while to soak and break down, but that is an option. I’m sure there are other brands as well, but those are the best quality pellets I’ve found, and have no extras (too many companies through in things like rice bran, which is not a fat I want my horses eating).

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I give my Horse Integrity Lite No Molasses. Here is a link to the Integrity Feeds. https://www.integrityhorsefeed.com/integrity-faq.php

McCauley’s Alam is high enough fiber to qualify as a complete feed, and ~11% NSC. Seminole Wellness Equi-safe combines chopped hay with the vitamin/mineral package with low NSC as well (~10%, if memory serves).

Purina Senior Active is NOT a complete feed, unlike their Equine Senior. And do not get me started on trying to pry NSC values from Purina (and I work in a feed store!).

Depending on his keeping level (easy or harder), you could consider combining a ration balancer (M-30, Empower Balance, Enrich Plus, etc.) with a easily chewed fiber source of choice (hay pellets or cubes, and so on). Can he do a chopped forage, or is that still too coarse?

The appetite suppression with Prascend is a real pain, we dealt with it at a farm I worked at with one horse. Would stirring in some applesauce or yogurt tempt him? My horse loved raspberry yogurt added as a treat once in a while (but to be honest, he was a total garbage gut and would anything that sat still long enough). That said, when he was on Purina Enrich with yogurt while in stall rest, I thought he was going to lick the bottom out of his feed pan.

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FWIW, Purina has at least some of their products’ NSC on their site now, if you get to the Sell Sheet which is a PDF that opens up in a new window.

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What is wrong with rice bran?

High omega 6, high phosphorus, and high NSC. It is a cheap fat, which is why feed manufacturers use it. There are better fat options, especially for metabolic horses.

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Yes, and some of their products, such as Wellsolve, have included that information for years.

Cavalor Fiber Force: 8% NSC :wink:

I believe can order Stabul feed from Tractor Supply Co if you have one near you. I buy their treats from TSC.

I’ve been feeding Triple Crown Senior for 2 years and it’s always the same consistency. How odd that ya’ll have seen differences!

Thanks for the suggestions.

He does eat chopped alfalfa forage, but he doesn’t clean everything up. He will probably have to go to soaked hay pellets if I can get him to eat them.

He’s been on Sentinel L/S and seems to love it. The NSC is higher than I’d like in a perfect world, but it’s an extruded pellet and easy for him to chew with his nubs (he’s funny about wet feed).

If for some reason he decides he doesn’t like this anymore, I’ll ask TSC if they will order the Stabul feed to try.

I have to let it soak in warm water for a few minutes for my weirdly choke prone extra enthusiastic eater. No inconsistencies this way but if yours is picky he probably wouldn’t appreciate being served mush.

I feed my IR pony Triple Crown Naturals Timothy Balance cubes (soaked for 15min). NSC=10%