Looking for Info on Marina Genn

[system]

I have cliniced with Marina many times. I have also organized clinics for her. She is an excellent trainer, instructor and rider. She as someone already put it, is not everyone’s cup of tea, but information wise, riding/training wise, and instruction wise she is incredible.
Below is info that I had from her website, and previous clinics.

Marina began her riding career at an early age in Germany. Her equestrian instructors included such accomplished riders as Johann Hinneman, Herbert Rehbein, and Dr. Reiner Klimke.
In the early 1970’s, the Reitschule Genn GmbH in West Germany grew to become the principal center in Germany for the training and breeding of fine competition horses. Marina trained many of these young horses herself and proceeded to ride many to victory in the show jumping ring and three-day eventing course.
After her move to Canada in 1982, she continued to excel in the world of dressage competition. During her five competitive years in Canada, she placed 355 times, including 121 first places, 65 seconds, and 55 thirds. These accomplishments led her to attain such titles as:

1982 Canadian Grand Prix Reserve Champion
1983 Canadian Grand Prix Champion
1984 Ontario Basic Reserve Champion
1984 Ontario Medium Champion
1984 Ontario Advanced Champion
1984 Grand Prix Champion
1985 Ontario Medium Champion
1985 Canadian Champion, Eastern Division
1987 United States High Score Intermediare I
1987 Long listed Canadian Equestrian Team

In 1988, Marina moved to the United States to share her knowledge and experience.

AAES is her school-website is http://www.aaesva.com/. I am sure if you wanted to go watch her teach, you would be very welcome.

[system]

Student of Marina Genn

I have ridden as a student of Marina Genn. The only reason I don’t ride with her now is because I moved out of the area. I learned more from Marina in 4 or 5 lessons than I learned in years of riding. She is strict, very german in her instruction, and demanding. Best if you want to be moving into upper level dressage and have a true understanding of a horse’s communication with the rider. She teaches timing and rhythm like no other.
All that said, she is best for learning dressage. If you want to jump a lot, you can do it, but it will be awhile before she would move you to jumping. I had been riding at least 15 years before I rode with her, and I can tell you, the resulting groundwork was amazing. I know now what I never knew before, and I have a strong desire to achieve many of the skills that grand prix dressage riders have…but i am a ways of.
I am at heart a three day eventer…competitive for 7 years on and off.
Hope that helps. The rates are pricey, but the quality is unmatched.

[PennyChrome]

I audited a clinic and really enjoyed it. Her focus was definitely on biomechanics & feel, which didn’t seem to work for everyone, but I really enjoyed it and would love to train with her.

[Long_Spot]

I know someone who was a student of hers for quite some time. They very much enjoyed her and made a ton of progress.

I watched a lesson, and found it quite interesting.

Probably comes down to your learning style though. The student in question is now an engineer or some sort and a very logical and mechanical learner.

[Fairview_Horse_Cente]

I have a friend that paid a lot of money for a lesson at one of her clinics. Marina spent 90% of the time telling my friend what kind of problems a horse with those bloodlines have. FINALLY they began to work. Marina, said, your horse does not have those problems, next!

Another friend of mine was a regular student of hers. She was an instructor herself, and talked one of her students into attending a clinic with Marina. Marina convinced the student that her draft cross horse (I believe he was at least 1/2 Clyde), was a grand prix prospect, and she should pay to keep him in full time training with her.

The lady just wanted to Foxhunt, so Marina “found” her a second horse, but of course, THAT horse then had super ponential too, <drum roll> and needed to be in training.

Long story short, my friend lost her student, and the rich lady kept her horses there for a long time before figuring out that those horses were not all that talented.

I have an incredible German dressage trainer, and would be happy to give out her name and contact information.

[Carol_Ames]

dep litter

:lol: I believe it is referred to by the BHS as the “deep litter” method;
I actually do the same thing (Northeast) as do a couple of other barns in my area. We don’t use mats and dig the wet spots out daily. You don’t get that urine smell on the horses or their blankets. The shavings may not have that fresh out of the bag look but you get used to it. My barn is always full inspite of it! __________________

[Carol_Ames]

family breeding farm

Her family had in Canada a breeding farm:yes:; so, she has had lots:lol: of experience with young:yes: horses:cool:

[scubed]

Marina is an incredible instructor. I cliniced regularly with her for many years. I rode a tough to do dressage on OTTB at the time and she was great with him and me (adult ammy fairly new to dressage then and dressage challenged then and now). She had me ride in two point (in my dressage saddle) to help him be comfortable coming through his back, she helped me get amazing medium trot from him and helped with many other things. She really fit her approach to each different horse and rider and was super tough, but very supportive. She explained everything she did and is really a student of the anatomy of the horse and how that translates into how they move. At the time I was riding with her, she was developing some type of video system for analysis of movement that seemed really cool. If I lived in range, I would absolutely ride with her again (I ride now with Missy Ransehousen, so feel I have a pretty good sense of what good teaching is).

[le_dressage]

Well, I took a few lessons from her and unless you are 120 lbs and 5’6 she really does not want anything to do with you. You are not worth her time. She told me I would have to lose 15lbs or she would not continue teaching me. I am not a professional I am a weekend rider and have no intention of going to the olympics. After that comment I left plus the fact that it was expensive and not really fun instruction. I like someone who can laugh and be funny. This was way too rigid for me. I have since done very well and had fun doing it.

[JockeyBurns]

Marina Genn Info

Some people are legends in their own time and some people are legends in their own mind. :lol:

Marina is the latter!

[RBABKA]

M GENN

[QUOTE=siegi b.;4005155]
I wouldn’t recvommend Marina’s place for boarding… It’s way too expensive by the time you add everything up. Also, coming from Germany Marina subscribes to the “mattress bedding” method in the winter - you only take out the obvious and just keep adding bedding - something hard to handle for the average American boarder.

Just my opinion…[/QUOTE]

We also feel this AAES is high priced and overrated. Marina claims to be a professional but her USEF membership shows amateur. In addition, her centerline scores do not show a world class rider. Many questions for this person and needs to clarify herself to the equestrian community in the USA. Just a thought

[hoopoe]

interesting that a first time poster comes to resurrect a 2 year dead thread

why does she have to “clarify herself” to the equestrian community in the USA

[sunkistbey]

I rode with Marina foe several years and found her very helpful and very German. We did not always see eye to eye, but we were still able to have a nice student-teacher relationship. Also I am not 5’6" or 120lbs and that was not a problem.

[RBABKA]

hoopie, am not a first timer. Have been in the business for 40 years. Now the USEF rules state if one receives money for instruction,training,boarding etc. then they are not amateur. Why does she have amateur status when receiving remuneration?? We once knew a rider here that was identified as an professional when classifying herself as a amateur in shows. She was suspended for that by the USEF and this happened years ago. I also agree with the post I responded too as well concerning the bedding . I do not think she has a degree as well which is important in my opinion. The equestrian community looks upon professionals as a source of knowledge and motivation and requires that all follow the rules. By the way I am 65.

[egood]

[QUOTE=RBABKA;8761161]
hoopie, am not a first timer. Have been in the business for 40 years. Now the USEF rules state if one receives money for instruction,training,boarding etc. then they are not amateur. Why does she have amateur status when receiving remuneration?? We once knew a rider here that was identified as an professional when classifying herself as a amateur in shows. She was suspended for that by the USEF and this happened years ago. I also agree with the post I responded too as well concerning the bedding . I do not think she has a degree as well which is important in my opinion. The equestrian community looks upon professionals as a source of knowledge and motivation and requires that all follow the rules. By the way I am 65.[/QUOTE]

Her last show in centerline scores was 1997, so maybe she registered as an ammy and has never updated it. She doesn’t need her USEF membership anyway unless she’s showing, and it looks like she doesn’t do that anymore.

[dotneko]

She hasn’t shown in 19 years. Why do you care what her USEF card says?

[RBABKA]

USEF

[QUOTE=dotneko;8761358]
She hasn’t shown in 19 years. Why do you care what her USEF card says?[/QUOTE]

Well thank you for the eloquent insight. In the USA, we have to abide by the rules that are in place to protect the public. Even for the AAES as a tertiary boarding facility, the rules are that any professional must abide by the rules. So, the USEF cares and the rules applies to all. This is not personal, it is business. We have to protect the industry from rule breakers, or we do not and therefore send a message to the public that rules do not matter. This would hurt the industry. I believe the USEF is correct,however you can disagree as well. If you want the membership then follow the quality rules and promote the rules to the public. However, if you do not like the rules then change them to avoid having misconception. thank you

[Highflyer]

It looks like she joined as an amateur/ life member in 1994 and hasn’t updated her status since then. While I’m a big believer in following the rules, getting upset that she is listed as an amateur seems a bit silly if she isn’t competing anyway. I’m pretty sure even USEF wouldn’t be too concerned about it.

[RBABKA]

[QUOTE=Highflyer;8761481]
It looks like she joined as an amateur/ life member in 1994 and hasn’t updated her status since then. While I’m a big believer in following the rules, getting upset that she is listed as an amateur seems a bit silly if she isn’t competing anyway. I’m pretty sure even USEF wouldn’t be too concerned about it.[/QUOTE]

Very interesting. If you advertise you are world class, would you not think it is important to advertise your talent as professional as an act of goodwill. However, you are correct if the attitude is it does not matter, then this brings to light the potential incompatibility of the industry and its ruling organizations. By the way the USEF has indicated it does care.thank you

[arlosmine]

The question, RBABKA, is why does it matter to YOU? It seems you have a personal axe to grind here.

What is it that you think Marina would achieve by being listed as an Ammy? To me, this sounds like a 22 year old error that never got corrected because she didn’t plan on showing. She may have checked the wrong box, or it may have been recorded incorrectly and she simply never noticed, because…why would she if she wasn’t showing? She probably paid for a life membership and forgot all about it. It’s not like she’s been competing as an amateur. The degree to which you are torqued about this seems disproportionate to the “crime”.

You sound like a vindictive, petty person.