Looking for info on saddlebred mare

A few years ago I was given a saddlebred mare. Just had her old owner send me her registered name and DOB. If anybody can access the registry I’d love to know more about her if it’s in there. Edgewood’s Just a Dream dob 4/16/2001. Just curious, she’s here to stay history or not.

Edgewood’s Just A Dream (135838M)

REGISTRY RECORDS

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  • * - Deceased
  • 1 - Name has been changed
Horse NameEdgewood's Just A Dream (135838M)

Former NameNo former name.

Reg. Number135838

ColorChestnut

Blood / DNA2001/2006

Foal Date04/16/2001

MarkingsRight hind pastern, partial left hind coronet, white.

Current OwnerDaniel A. Savage and Jessie L. Savage

BreederRickey WalkerWytheville, VA

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Ownership History
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[TD=“class: ownerName”]Daniel A. Savage and Jessie L. Savage[/TD]
[TD=“class: ownedFrom”]02/15/2008[/TD]
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[TD=“class: ownerName”]Anne M. Kozloff[/TD]
[TD=“class: ownedFrom”]02/21/2002[/TD]
[TD=“class: ownedTo”]02/15/2008[/TD]
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[TD=“class: ownerName”]Rickey Walker[/TD]
[TD=“class: ownedFrom”]04/16/2001[/TD]
[TD=“class: ownedTo”]02/21/2002[/TD]
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Pedigree

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  • * - Deceased
  • 1 - Name has been changed
[TABLE] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Edgewood's Just A Dream [I] (135838M)[/I] , 2001 , Chestnut[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Sultan's American Dream [I] (75608S*)[/I] , 1980 , Chestnut[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Supreme Sultan [I] (48995S*)[/I] , 1966 , Chestnut ![](https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"][SUP]CH[/SUP] Valley View Supreme [I] (36275S*) (WGC, WC, RWC)[/I] , 1952 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Genius Bourbon King [I] (26232S*)[/I] [SUP]1[/SUP] , 1943 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Diana Gay [I] (BHF) (38978M*) (WC)[/I] , 1945 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Melody O'Lee [I] (BHF) (54496M*) [/I] , 1953 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Anacacho Denmark [I] (16033S*)[/I] [SUP]1[/SUP] , 1930 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Judy O'Lee [I] (BHF) (46128M*) [/I] , 1948 , Chestnut[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Jasper Lou [I] (BHF) (67227M*) [/I] , 1964 , Chestnut[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"][SUP]CH[/SUP] Wing Commander [I] (22591S*) (WGC, WC, RWGC)[/I] , 1943 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"][SUP]CH[/SUP] Anacacho Shamrock [I] (12594S*) (RWC)[/I] , 1932 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Flirtation Walk [I] (BHF) (23178M*) [/I] , 1933 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Molly O'Lee [I] (57110M*)[/I] , 1956 , Chestnut[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Ensign Kirby [I] (17526S*)[/I] , 1939 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Judy O'Lee [I] (BHF) (46128M*) [/I] , 1948 , Chestnut[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Hello Hollywood [I] (124857M)[/I] , 1993 , Chestnut[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Chubasco [I] (70290S*)[/I] , 1977 , Chestnut And White [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Fountain Of Youth [I] (60699S*)[/I] , 1972 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"][SUP]CH[/SUP] Yorktown [I] (47150S*) (WGC, WC)[/I] , 1964 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Eternal Spring [I] (67736M*)[/I] , 1964 , Chestnut[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Tropical Gale [I] (93917M*)[/I] , 1963 , Chestnut And White[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Ensign's Storm Warning [I] (35069S*)[/I] , 1952 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Miss Stormy Weather [I] (93736M*)[/I] , 1953 , Chestnut And White[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Hello Madiline [I] (101558M)[/I] , 1981 , Liver Chestnut[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Sultan's Sultan [I] (53834S*)[/I] , 1969 , Chestnut[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Supreme Sultan [I] (48995S*)[/I] , 1966 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Melody O'Lee [I] (BHF) (54496M*) [/I] , 1953 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont generation4"]Marely's Gypsie Girl [I] (67876M*)[/I] , 1964 , Chestnut[/TD] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Wing Rhythm [I] (38733S*)[/I] , 1956 , Chestnut [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"https:\/\/www.asha.net\/images\/multimedia.png)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD="class: bigFont lastRow"]Joli Coeur [I] (41077M*)[/I] , 1946 , Bay[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [B]Offspring[/B]

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[TD=“class: regNum”]123604[/TD]
[TD=“class: horseInfo”]RLF My Hot Caramel (123604S)
Foal Date: 05/03/2010
Color: Chestnut And White
Sex: S[/TD]
[TD=“class: bredWithDam”]My Magik Marker (113365S)[/TD]
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[TD=“class: regNum”]126856[/TD]
[TD=“class: horseInfo”]RLF Hot Ticket’s Kolor Commander (126856G)
Foal Date: 04/25/2009
Color: Bay And White
Sex: G[/TD]
[TD=“class: bredWithDam”]My Magik Marker (113365S)[/TD]
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[TD=“class: regNum”]142646[/TD]
[TD=“class: horseInfo”]Sable And Pearls (142646M)
Foal Date: 04/23/2005
Color: Chestnut And White
Sex: M[/TD]
[TD=“class: bredWithDam”]My Magik Kolors (95651S)[/TD]
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  • A RED offspring registration number indicates that competition records are listed.
  • A GREEN offspring registration number indicates that only In-Hand competition records are listed.
  • A BLUE offspring registration number indicates that no competition records are listed.
  • A PURPLE offspring registration number indicates a World’s Grand Champion
  • An ORANGE offspring registration number indicates a World Champions (1st places)
  • A PINK offspring registration number indicates a Reserve World Champions (2nd places)
  • * - Deceased
  • 1 - Name has been changed

Competition Records

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[TD=“class: col1”]West Virginia Futurity Region: 11 Class Date: 7/26/2001 weanling fillies Judges: ed millett Exhibitor: rick walker[/TD]
[TD=“class: col2”]Entries: 8 Placings: 6 High Pts: 0 KSF: 0 KSFW: 0[/TD]
[TD=“class: col3”]CH: 0.0 CHEQ:0.0 NP: 0 Money Won: $0.00 GN Prize Earnings: $0.00[/TD]
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[TD=“class: col1”]West Virginia Futurity Region: 11 Class Date: 7/26/2001 weanling junior exhibitor Judges: ed millett Exhibitor: jay walker[/TD]
[TD=“class: col2”]Entries: 4 Placings: 3 High Pts: 0 KSF: 0 KSFW: 0[/TD]
[TD=“class: col3”]CH: 0.0 CHEQ:0.0 NP: 0 Money Won: $0.00 GN Prize Earnings: $0.00[/TD]
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Pedigree got scrambled during cute and paste. But this is athe ABP link for her dam and sire

https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hello+hollywood4
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sultans+american+dream

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There was an ASB stallion named Juan Rex (around 1947) who was exported to South Africa and re-named Edgewood’s King.

Wonder if your horse is related? Some of those S. African horses’ or their offspring did make their way back to US.

You might contact ASHA- American Saddle Horse Assoc. in Lexington, Ky.

https://www.asha.net/

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She’s in Allbreedpedigree, if that helps you at all. Leave off the apostrophe in “Edgewood’s”.

oh how cool! Thank you!

I know virtually nothing about Saddlebreds. My only real contact was one at summer camp in the early 1970’s. I’ve had other breeds but I’m an accidental ASB owner.

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I’m still poking through it. Fascinated!

FYI- as a new saddlebred owner I shall warn you…Never underestimate the working brain of a Saddlebred. They are always
in thinking mode.
I call them the 'German Shepherd" of the horse breeds. Super smart and easy to teach. Unreal cognition and IQ.
It there were a Mensa for horses, this breed would be the leader.

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I got that covered. 50 yrs of peoples throw away horses has gotten me used to just about anything. Plus I had a donkey, there’s some mensa for you.

Her testing me has mostly been bluster. She is ungodly nosy. I have a major snowmobile trail that cuts through the back of my property in the winter and she’s got to stand out there in all weather watching the snow machines. She also has to investigate every critter that passes through the fields. If she deems it dangerous you can watch her herd the old blind app she lives with into the barn.

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If I saw this breeding I would easily snatch her up! Wing Commander, Yorktown, and Supreme Sultan are all really good lines in my experience.

As said above ASBs are extremely intelligent and high drive horses. My mare has to be handled in a specific way due to her past but once I figured out her learning style there’s no limit to what she picks up! Super fun horses to do groundwork and liberty training with as they love being around their people and learning.

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LOL. Yep. I had always had Thoroughbreds. I’ve decided that Saddlebreds are just Thoroughbreds with more snark. They are into EVERYTHING!

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@Thoroughbred1201, I love that line - Can I keep it? So true!

OP, since you’ve had your gal for a couple years now you and she should be buds by now. Breeding/bloodlines is just icing on the cake, but I agree, she’s got some very nice relatives.

All that the others have said. They are hella’ smart, with lots and lots of try.

Saddlebreds also can be the “Karens” of the world. Mine is.

When saddling, pokes her nose at a tiny wrinkle in the pad. “Fix this! No one 's going anywhere while that pea is under tha mattresses!”
She just came back from the repro center. They told me that she didn’t like the first stall they put her in. She settled down when they moved her to “nicer digs”.

Yes. Picky.

“I don’t like this bit. Give me that one.”
“I don’t like this girth. Give me that one WITH THE FLEECE.”
“I don’t like this feed. Give me that other feed. AND Give it to me NOW!!!

You get the idea…

I’m just the servant.

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I have to admit I haven’t gotten anything I’d call snark out of her. She was owned for a few years by a young girl who loved her but was out horsed and couldn’t really afford her. I talked the girl out of the horse for the horse’s sake. It took a year to get her back into shape to even consider riding her. The girl hadn’t ridden her for a couple years. Never did get a straight answer about what she did to scare her so I haven’t attempted to ride because I’m always alone. I’m 61 so I won’t bounce back up if I hit the dirt like I once did. The heat and humidity is going to break next week so I may figure out which of my saddles fits her best and just take her for a walk around the trails out back. Restart her like she’s a baby. She already has access to those trails and I see where she has gone exploring on her own so it shouldn’t bother her much. The only objection I foresee is her loosing sight of old Abby. She takes her job of caring for the blind old mare seriously. Abby on the other hand will just use it as an opportunity to take a good nap.

Her bloodlines…

Even knowing nothing about saddlebreds I’ve heard of a few of those horses. I’ve been having a blast poking through the pedigree and finding pictures of her ancestors and a bit about them. Fun being able to take it back to the beginnings of the breed and well beyond. I was told she is 5 gaited. Looking at some of those horses I believe it. She doesn’t move like my TWH or my STB did but the gears should be in there. I should attempt to get the papers into my name. Just to keep her safer should something happen to me. No breeding. She’s 19 yrs old. Plus I need a baby horse like a hole in the head. I think I even found a picture of one of her babies.

I must have stumbled across Wing Commander and Sultans Supreme in magazines as a horse crazy kid. No other reason I would have heard of them. I did Gymkhana as a teen and haven’t shown since. Saddlebreds are a rare sighting in nowhere New Hampshire. I really don’t need her to be able to do much beyond taking a walk in the woods. I have trails here where I could ride clear to Canada if I chose.

or maybe I won’t bother with her papers. A google search on previous owners brinks up some major drama and hints of drama. Going to have to think about it.

I did find the South African line. No direct relation but I can see by the names it sprang out of some of the same lines. Kissing cousins.

https://www.artbycrane.com/americansaddlebredhorses/soafrica.html

If she is 5 gaited then be prepared for an extremely fun ride when you find the buttons! My girl was sold to me as ungaited (3 gaited) but I discovered through her previous owner that she is 5 gaited! Let’s just say it’s highly entertaining to show her off now that she trusts me enough to really let loose.

Mine didn’t show signs of being gaited until she had gotten comfortable with me. But that is due to her history and how her previous owners trained her, we’re talking high pressure shows as a 2 year old and high pressure training, so she had to learn that I don’t put pressure on her. She won’t rack in the pasture but when we’re out on the trail she’ll happily rack along. Her slow gait is taking some work to cultivate but we just take it one day at a time.

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I used to have a standardbred mare that was a speed racker. She was a blast. She also had a great running walk and as she aged she would pop her bottom lip in time with her footfalls. People said we sounded like a giant corn popper coming down the road.

That pedigree reads like a who’s who of ASB’s! Lucky you! I’ve always said that Saddlers are the only breed of horse with a sense of humor. They will play tricks on you and then “laugh” and seem quite amused. I love them!

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I’m not even in the saddlebred world anymore and I’m impressed by that pedigree! I see some old familiar names in there.

Funny I hadn’t thought about them much. I knew an ASB who was gelded late and was a pre st george dressage horse in his years. Image Golden Baby. Wonder if anyone can trace back to him. He had some offspring. I think mimi died about 30 some odd years.

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@ASB Stars Can you add anything?