Looking for inspiration - Stock Trailer Modifications

I am the proud owner of a new-to-me 1991 WW stock trailer. It is 16ft long and 6ft wide, so a decent size for a first trailer. It needs some cosmetic work (remove surface rust, prime and repaint) and redo the lights, but otherwise, it is in good shape. It hauled absolutely beautifully, tracked nicely and didn’t even move around when a couple large semis passed me and created a lovely cross wind. The worst of the damage to the trailer is the corner weld on the full door… it just needs to be re-welded.

I’m thinking of adding a chest bar across the front to divide the horse part from the tack part - the trailer has a full sized door in the nose, which would make a nice tack/storage area for when I’m hauling - as well as a butt chain across the back. The back door of the trailer swings open, but also has a sliding door in case I want to open half of it.

For those that haul in stock trailers, have you modified the inside of it at all? Did you create DIY dividers? I’d love to see some pictures for inspiration. Mine has no partitions and is basically a blank slate.

Thank you!

First congratulations on your first pick for a horse trailer! :):). You will love having a stock trailer even if you never haul more than two horses! :slight_smile:

i have have never used more in fuel pulling a stock trailer than I did pulling a 2-horse:). My first stock trailer was a WW in the late 70’s. Then I bought a brand new Ponderosa in 1987 and still have it:)

before you start any sort of remodeling, get that corner weld fixed by a qualified welder. And while that person is at if, PLEASE have him/her jack the trailer up and closely examine the frame for rust.

If the body has surface rust, you want to be doubly sure the frame is solid:)

Once you know your frame is safe to haul live weight, then have at the interior:)

My trailer came with tack compartment and the top of it is where the front horses eat.

I have a removable divider bar between the front horses and a butt chain for each horse is welded to the back end of that removable divider bar.

There is a full size door to separate the front horses from the back horses.

my trailer did not come with a rear horse divider and I never needed one. My 16.1H fella always rode in the back (diagonally) and was happy that way.

My trailer sits outside and is completely covered with a tarp. DH has been pretty much under the weather to ask him to wrestle with that tarp but I will see if I can get him to at least untie enough to where I can open the side escape door to get pics.

Also, my 1987 Ponderosa is just now showing some surface rust. That is because I kept the frame and all the seams oiled. I used chainsaw oil as it will adhere to the metal better than any other type:)

“Back in the day”, there were folks called “oilers” that I would take my truck & trailer to every Fall to get them oiled. My truck is a 1978
GMC and still doesn’t have any rust:).

Best wishes and congratulations!!!

To startI would do a THOROUGH inspection of the underside, check to make sure brakes are working, no rusted cross pieces holding up the floor. Shackles holding axles to trailer body not ready to break. Same with bolts at spring ends, shackles anchoring springs to trailer. How is the wiring? Cracked coating will short out in wet weather. Hitch lock actually holding onto the ball? Solid chains, that won’t break if pulled?

Then do a check of the inside floorboards, especially where walls meet floor, because moisture collects there, rots wood, rusts out supporting angle iron. We tap a big screwdriver into the floor wood at various places. Solid wood has one sound, while bad wood has a different sound, easier to drive into. Practice with a chunk of scrap wood to learn the sound of solid wood if you don’t already know it. You may need to replace boards if they sound bad. Self-tapping metal screws are what we use to hold down the new boards to the metal cross pieces, angle iron. We get lumber from a sawmill, truly is 2 inches thick. Other folks use treated lumber, hoping it lasts longer.

You could pay the local welding shop to do the metal inspection for you, tell you what they found. They can probably fix the problems for you too. Better to have that done before fixing the wood floor.

Take the wheels off, disassemble the hubs, bearings, to clean and regrease them. Replace bearings if they are worn. Auto shop will help find you new ones if needed. No telling when it got serviced last, or if they they truly did a good job. I have had my trailer greased and serviced at regular service stations, tire stores, if you are not mechanical. Check wear, sidewall cracking on tires while they are off. Replace if needed or aged. I get mine balanced so they run true, wear evenly, last better, saves on fuel. Have a decent spare, wrench that fits the lug nuts, in case you ever need it.

This is an older trailer, so updating parts, metal, wire, plug, wood floors, is needed to keep it safe to haul your horse in. I HATE trailer breakdowns, so we keep a close eye on our 1985 stock trailer to make using it stress free. I want to hitch, check lights, tires, and go. All the above stuff has happened to friends of ours or got prevented from happening by our sharp-eyed service guys during our regular check ups.

We have modified this trailer by adding a short ramp in the rear. Makes it easy to load carriage in there, small tractors, other odd items to haul home. Horses like the ramp for getting on and off easily. It was a huge step down before the ramp, so even long-legged horses had a hard time finding the ground.

We removed that sliding gate, made the back door solid. Husband did that welding work, along with putting on the ramp. The slider had sharp angle iron above, was not real tall, and was VERY noisy in travel. We were afraid horses would hurt themselves on slider header, going thru that little gate, never planned to use it anyway. Here they call them “cattle gates” and aid in controlling cattle while loading or unloading. We added 4ft height plywood inside, under the slats with 3/8" rubber matting glued on the plywood. This serves a double purpose in the reducing sound while hauling. Second reason was horse protection, should anyone kick a wall or slip to bang a hoof on the walls. Can’t put a hoof thru the metal sheeting in the sides now. We did the plywood and rubber over rear door too and center dividing gate.

We have big diameter butt bars for use as a box stall if needed. Big 1"thick, drop-in pins on both ends for total removal when not needed. 3 inch pipe with wood inside to prevent bending when leaned on. Chains bend, pinch, break, stretch when leaned on. No firm resistance keeping horse butt off door if horse sits back on them. I SURE do not want horse putting full weight on the trailer back door to spring the locks, bend the door.

Older trailers can be great to use, but get it in very good condition before using it. Have a plan for regular checkups to keep it in good condition. Parking on dirt, grass, will shorten floor life, rust metal faster, so be religious in getting floor checked, metal floor supports inspected at least annually. We added an LED white light inside, Sure helps with visibility finding things, horses load easily when they can see inside.

We have replaced the floor boards several times over the years, gotten new springs, under floor cross pieces, shackles, brakes, changed to LED tail/brake lights for better visibility. MUCH more visible to anyone behind us tHan the old stype bulbs. Husband did those replacement lights with a trailer kit from TSC, about $30.

Have fun with your new toy!

Funny WTW, ours is a Ponderosa too!

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Thanks, all!

![]( already have a welder scheduled to do all the actual metal repairs. Frame itself is solid - it was checked when the floors were redone last year. I crawled underneath since I’m just that tiny and looked for myself, poking at the cross beams with a screw driver to see if there were any weak spots. But I will have the welder do that again too, just in case. I’m thinking I might pull up the floor boards anyway so I can give them a quick sanding and possibly coating them with some type of protectant. I’ll be putting rubber on them anyway, but a protectant should help too.

Wiring needs to be redone/troubleshooted because it wasn’t working with my truck and I found evidence of critter teeth marks, so I have someone coming to do that and the electrical brakes plus take the wheels off and replace the bearings and re-pack/grease. Tires are in good shape, with probably 85-90% tread on them and don’t have any sidewall damage. I’m religious about checking that, ever since I had a tire blow up on me while driving. Not a fun experience. Coupler and pin is also in good shape - we hauled it an hour home after the seller hauled it almost two hours to our meeting place. It hitches and unhitches smoothly for the most part (had to jump on the tongue of the trailer to get the coupler to pop off the ball when we went to unhitch at home), locks in place and the chains are in good shape - no rust at all on them. Wire that connects to my truck looks new. Hubs seem okay - nothing was hot to the touch, no weird noises, screeching. But will definitely get the axles and things checked when the tires come off for re-packing.

I’m hiring out all the routine and preventative maintenance for my own peace of mind, before I get into surface rust removal. I want to be reassured everything is okay before my horses ever load onto it and I’ve given myself until spring time to get everything in tip top shape so I don’t feel rushed. Ideally, I’ll have things ready for October when my new horse is ready to come home, but if it takes longer, I want to be ready by the time spring rolls around. Either way, the thing won’t be moving until I get the wiring and metal stuff taken care of.

The eventual plan is to have rubber mats installed on the inside walls (from floor to a few feet up) of the trailer to muffle noise and cushion any kicks or bumps from the horses.

It’ll be parked on my gravel garage pad when not in use, so I’m hoping that is better than dirt or grass. :stuck_out_tongue:

Took this bad picture from my window. Very surprised to see how good of shape the roof is since I had a hard time seeing on top of it from the ground. I was even more surprised at how little hauling this trailer affected my fuel economy. It didn’t seem to suck up any more gas than normal drives, which was contrary to everything I’ve been told. haha.

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If the trailer has been sitting outside, do you know how old the tires are?

DH went racing a few weekends back and had TWO tires separate on the race car trailer. They still had full tread but they had been exposed to the weather for quite a few years.

If the tires on your trailer have been on More than a few years and exposed to weather 24/7, I would replace them as soon as you can, with the recommended size and pky for that trailer:)

Gas mileage. I have said for years my stock trailer doesn’t cost any more in fuel than a two horse if one has a big enough truck, lollol

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That, I don’t know… it’s a good point. I will add new tires to my list of things to do, luckily… I have friends in the tire industry and they can get me great deals on new tires or overstocks that have never been outside. I’ll take a look at the tires and see if I can find a year on them anywhere though, because now I’m curious!

I have an F-150 and everyone was like, “it’s going to be a hog on gas!” The extent of my trailer use will be to haul 20 minutes one way to ride with friends or 20 minutes in the other direction to haul to the vet and skip the (insane!) $200 call out fee. It doesn’t even cost me $200 to fill my tank!

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Out of curiosity, I went crawling under my trailer myself. I’m small enough that I can fit under there on my back without it being jacked up. Some of the cross members have rust, but when I rubbed it with my finger, the rust wiped off to show bare metal. So that was kind of cool. I rubbed random parts of every piece of metal under the trailer and I now have a lot of rust colored dust on my clothing. When it dries up a bit and I get actual safety glasses and a mask, I’ll take some sandpaper under there and occupy some time until my welder can come over and do his own inspection. I’m just itching to get into the DIY part of this, so this should keep me busy for a bit. From what I saw, though, all the metal under there is in good shape and doesn’t show signs of jagged edges, holes or anything. Just the rust that seemed to rub off.

I have a 14’ Shoop stock trailer that has been modified into a 2-horse straight load. We had hinges mounted in a “forward” location to move the cut gate from the center to make a 4’ tack area and a 10’ horse area. The gate is fairly easy to move, one person can do it with a lot of grunting. We also had attachments welded to mount a post to make the center divider and chest bars for the 2-h straight load. It pops in and out, secured in much the same manner as most major manufacturers that make “removable” dividers.

We did not want a permanent ramp, but have used oil change ramps and pick up ramps several times to get wheeled items into the trailer. Since we have the stock trailer for cattle and goats, a ramp was an absolute no-go. Ramps are a disaster with loading or unloading skittish cattle.

I do like my stock trailer, it is much more versatile with the ability to configure it as needed.

You wrote that you “had to jump on the tongue of the trailer to get the coupler to pop off the ball when we went to unhitch at home;” perhaps the ball wasn’t greased sufficiently before hitching up the trailer - can take more than one thinks. With a bumper pull trailer (we own two and have had two others), I’ve had to remind myself to grease the heck out of the ball when it has sat outside in rainy weather, before hitching up again. Just a thought.

For my current combo stock trailer, I had the inside of the horse compartment coated with the same material used for spray-on truck bed liners. Looks great and is very protective.

All of our graveled parking area is taken up by our other trailers, so the combo stock is parked on rubber matting (re-purposed stall mats) over the grass. I figure that has to give at least some protection to the underside.

With an earlier combo stock we owned, I had solar screens installed on the airgaps on the sides and the rear gate. Made a noticeable difference in how cool the trailer interior felt in hot weather.

I plan on eventually replacing the very heavy duty, extremely heavy-weight mats that came with my current trailer with relatively lightweight EVA matting, so that I can more easily pull the mats out by myself (I’m also on the small side) when cleaning out the trailer after use.

Greasing the ball is something I didn’t know was a thing. The receiver and ball is new on my trailer, but grease can’t hurt. We didn’t have to jump hard… I’m only about 100lbs and one quick bounce was enough to pop it off. But I bet greasing the ball would definitely help that. :slight_smile:

That’s the great idea about the truck coating… I’m going to have to see if it comes in white. My plan is to keep the exterior gray so it doesn’t confuse the registration, but paint the inside white to really make it look bright.

Rubber mats are a great idea to park on too! I found some light weight ones at Peavy Mart that I plan to put inside the trailer, but I bet I could find some used stall mats. Alternatively, I could probably find sidewalk blocks easier.

Yes — the ball needs to be kept greased:)

Also, it should be a solid ball, NOT a hollow ball – maybe they don’t even make hollow balls anymore but double check that too, lol :slight_smile:

It’s definitely a solid ball! It’s heavy!

Got my first quote in for welding - $600 inc. materials. That’s actually not too bad. I was expecting way more.

Is that just for the corner weld on the door? Maybe I need to get my head out of the 70’s but that sounds expensive just for that one thing, even if the door has to come off the trailer?

Nope, that’s for all the other little things I noticed while walking around. The door is the biggest one (and the reason why I was looking for a welder), but I spotted other areas where the sheet metal in the man door has rust and that could stand to be replaced, plus there are some other places that look like they’re on the verge and I might as well have them fixed while the welder is already there. In all, he quoted about 5 hours of work for everything. If it was just for the door, I’d keep price comparing, but for all the problem areas I noted (and sent pictures of), $600 being the worst case scenario (in his words) is pretty affordable.

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I also called the trailer manufacturer directly because the spec plate is worn off from the trailer and I was curious about some things. Total trailer weight is 2830lbs, there are electric brakes (I wasn’t positive), and the double axels are rated for 5200lbs each.

I will have absolutely no issues hauling 2 or even 3 horses once everything is fixed and updated. I’ll normally only haul one, but there could be occasions where I haul all 3 to the vet or something. The heaviest is probably 1000lbs (and the shortest), while the other two are taller, leaner Standardbreds. Very excited to have this project on the go so I won’t have to depend on others for rides.

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$600 for five hours of welding work is more like it:)

You are on your way!!! :):slight_smile:

That’s including the material!

Plus a buddy of mine “lost” a couple jugs of industrial strength rust inhibitor my way and I managed to find a couple dividers for a steal - I have this half baked idea that I’d like to have removeable slant dividers in the off chance I haul a strange horse with mine. I’m going to pick the welder’s brain about installing a drop pin type system that will allow me to add or remove these dividers as I need. And if the idea doesn’t work, I can re-sell them for more than I paid.

I would not recommend trying to slant load horses with dividers in a 6’ wide trailer. A “normal” angled slant in a 6’ wide trailer will be incredibly short and uncomfortable for most horses. You could get away with changing the angle, but will likely only be able to fit 2 horses in that way… At 16’ long, if you want to load 2 “buddies” and a “stranger” and keep them separate, I would just put the stranger in the front or rear section alone.

I don’t have a divider in the stock trailer currently, which is why I was sourcing out used slant dividers. My idea is to almost create more of a box stall with the dividers, to create room and sense of division for just two horses (if I’m hauling a strange horse, it’ll be because I’m going riding with a friend and it’ll be my horse and hers). If I’m hauling three horses, the dividers will come out because it’s my three going to the vet or something.

The other option is to ask my new welder friend how to use one of the slant dividers to modify my trailer into a straight load. I think all I’d need then is a chest and butt bar and a drop-pin system to create the division between the two horses that I could remove. It would be a longer stall, but would give me that boundary I want to safely haul two horses that aren’t familiar with each other.

In my little brain, I’m thinking there has to be a way to make everything removeable so I can keep the overall use of the stock option, but can also make it into a divided trailer if I need to. I’m still rolling that idea around. If the slant dividers I got don’t work, I can sell them for more than I paid and it’s all good.