What I’m really looking for is a wild bay from 2 bay (or one bay and one black) parents. Anyone up for the challenge? 
Im looking to JB and Ive been noticing some weird coincidences…Every one I have found out of a normal bay or by a normal bay has had a chestnut as the other parent.
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Wild Bay?
By wild bay do you mean a bay whose black leg markings are not fully up past the knees and hocks?
My wild bay is by a bay stallion (who is also known for throwing non-fading black when bred to bay mares)…but is out of a chestnut mare.
This chestnut mare has also thrown a primitive bay when bred to a non-fading black stallion. The full sibling of the primitive bay is a chestnut with a one black forearm. Makes my head spin trying to figure it out.
Yes…BTW JB may have found a wild bay out of two bays. Sire is definately bay, waiting on an AHA lookup on the dam. Pedigree query says bay so heres to hoping.
I have a wild bay out of a bay mare and by an unknown stallion. The stud was a few-spot appaloosa and I’ve seen his color listed as: dun, buckskin, and bay. So technically a bay, just maybe a modifier in there. Dam was definitely a bay.
I have a wild bay out of known bay parents
I have a wild bay out of two bay parents. Sire: Monkton Elite, a Cleveland Bay Stallion. Dam: Pushover and Over, a registered Tennessee Walking Horse who is bay. I googled the dam’s name and she is for sale on horseclicks.com One of her other foals is on buyhorses.com.
Why are you interested in finding a wild bay out of known bay parents?
I have bred two wild bays. My stallion is black and the mares were bay and fleabitten grey.
Does this mare qualify as a “Wild Bay”??
Hello Everyone,
Does this mare qualify as a “wild bay”? I had never heard of it!
http://www.sportingchancefarm.com/zoe.htm
This is:
Zoe is a KWPN filly (Goodtimes (bay) X Jolie (dark chestnut)by Wanroij (chestnut)…
Would love to know if Zoe qualifies!
Warmly,
Karin
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What I’m really looking for is a wild bay from 2 bay (or one bay and one black) parents. Anyone up for the challenge? :D[/QUOTE]
I bred a wild bay filly, she was born in 2004. She is by my Cleveland Bay/TB stallion and out of a registered QH mare I owned. Both were true bays. This is the only wild bay he had ever thrown. This is a poor foal picture of her. Her mane and tail were bleached. I have more current pictures I can email, her mane and tail are jet black and she has black over her fetlocks and part way up to her knees/hocks but she also has brown in her cannons.
http://www.frostyoaks.com/frostyoaks/images/destiny9.jpg
JB, according to the JC, both of Robbie’s parents are bay. What kind of bay? Don’ know. 
What the heck is a “wild” bay?
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Wild Bay: a bay where the black on the legs only comes up to fetlocks or so. However, the cannon can be strange combinations of red and black areas. Here’s a few examples of horses with different degrees of sock height (the second is also considered a wild bay, due to the : [edit]
Karin - Zoe looks very much like a normal bay to me. She’s very cute either way. 
My “wild bay” mare is out of a bay and by a chestnut. I don’t think it’s all that rare, as we have three at my barn that I can think of right off the top of my head, all arab with the exception of my mare.
As a foal:
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/jilltx_photo/lunababytrot.jpg?t=1209529471
As a mature horse: interesting to note that as she’s aged, the black points have darkened. She still has NO black hair on the insides of any of her canon bones and little to no black points on the hind legs. Tail has silver hairs and guard hairs and her body color is very “red”. She almost looks chestnut at times, particularly in the summer.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w240/jilltx_photo/BooneRside4yr.jpg?t=1209529383
I would love current pictures and pictures of sire and dam if you have them. My email is lwick911@hotmail.com if you dont wnat to post them.
Do you have pictures of your wild bay? As to why, because we are trying to figure out which is dominant over the other.
There are three agouti genes (theory not proven(, normal bay, wild bay and brown.
MY theory is Bay is dominant over Wild Bay which is dominant over Brown
Other theory is Wild Bay over Bay over Brown
Question: Do wild bays generally have very little, if any, black on their legs as foals? Amos had ZERO black on his legs as a foal, and since he shed out as a yearling, he just has ankle socks and sorta smutty-looking knees and hocks.
Foal pic:
http://flickr.com/photos/rivendellsportmorgans/978176375/in/set-72157601111751704/
Yearling pic:
http://flickr.com/photos/rivendellsportmorgans/958411495/in/set-72157601111751704/
rising 3 yr. old:
http://flickr.com/photos/rivendellsportmorgans/2365500276/
Amos’s dam is a bright red chestnut, and his sire is a dark bay/brown.
Katja
It seems there is quite a continuum of ‘wildness’ in wild bay, from some brown on the cannons to tiny black anklets with serious blonde streaks in the mane and tail. That makes me wonder what other modifiers are at work. And then how does that compare with the smutty factor, which adds dark shading over the topline and saddle area?
My pony appears to be almost a minimal form of the wild bay, with just blonde leg feathering and pale cannons. She has no black shading anywhere else on her body, just smutty (rather than solid) black on her legs and a black mane and tail. Her grandparents are all grey, so that’s no help.
What color were her parents?
