Love the property / hate the house... Updated Post #138

Do you have any interest in bare land? There is a lot right across the road from me that is 23 acres and last I heard, is bank owned. The people that owned it (along with a house and 11 acres that is attached to it - they were trying to sell them separately thinking they’d get more money) got foreclosed on. There is power and a well on this plot, it’s where they used to keep their horses so it’d be good for building a place. No where near as nice of a property as what you were looking at, but it’s not on the market yet. It is on a dirt road.

Not sure on pricing of either plot, but at the house, there are 2 small paddocks and a barn (which should probably be bulldozed since the last time I saw it it was pretty trashed.) I could give you the addresses of both if you are interested.

Just thought of another one that just went on the market as a FSBO, but it’s right on County Road 50 so might be too busy. But there is a barn…

Sabino - We would consider bare land - can you PM me the address? We’ve been keeping an eye out, but there hasn’t been much (expect for those lots on Co Rd 50 that are 90% wetland).

We’d like to stay off a busy road, if we can. Our current road, while not super busy, is a 50mph that seems to make people lose their driving skills. People are continuously driving off the road at our corner and ending up in the front of our property. :mad: Earlier this week, someone went off the road diagonally across from us, took down their fence, and went across their whole paddock. Thank goodness their horse wasn’t hurt, and didn’t try to escape! It’s given me a high desire to find a less busy/less speedy road!

[QUOTE=Kodidog763;8816341]
Hopefully the market around here picks up soon. Sadly it seems that most acreage properties in this area are just now recovering from the crash. A lot of people don’t have enough equity to even think about selling.

Currently there just isn’t much to choose from. I’ve been staring at the same 11 properties for months. :eek:[/QUOTE]

Banks are still sitting on a huge amount of foreclosed properties. They want a hot market so no longer are flooding it. Supply and demand. Just keep waiting if the other one doesn’t come back around. :slight_smile:

Just sent you a message with both addresses. Let me know if you go look at it.

So wait - do the “other buyers” have a contract to buy, or not, OP? Usually validating that work has been satisfactorily done only happens for a contract that is just before closing date. If they just presented their offer it may be a short time till closing, but that is certainly done sometimes. And yep, that is far from an ‘as-is’ sale!

Did you submit an offer as well, OP? If so, I guess you are the ‘back-up’ position in case the current buyers do cancel their contract using one of the back-out clauses. Usually buyers can get out of the contract, but for sellers it is very difficult to do so.

[QUOTE=FalseImpression;8814578]
You mean the sellers can deal with several prospective buyers at the same time?
My DD and her husband just bought a house sitting on about 2 acres. They do not want the horses at home. But there was a lot of interest and several offers came in after one “open house” day. Theirs was the first! The seller accepted it, but the real estate agent kept telling them there were other offers. However, neither the agent or the seller were allowed to look at them until the negotiations were over with the first offer. If they had backed out, they would have opened the second offer.
Same thing happened when they sold their condo two weeks later. Several offers but you deal with the first one first and then go to the next one.
This is to prevent the wars that took place in Toronto and elsewhere.
Luckily, my DD and her husband were ready to jump on the property and it went their way![/QUOTE]

Definitely NOT that way anywhere I have lived in the U.S. Prospective buyers need to put a respond-by date on their offer so that sellers don’t sit on it waiting for more offers.

I know someone who is, right now, negotiating with the second offer, while the first offer waits to see how that comes out. The second offer has more desirable terms that the first offer can’t match. But if they can’t reach an agreement on price, the sellers will start negotiating with the first offer. The first offer prospective buyer isn’t thrilled with the situation, but there is little they can do about it, other than cancel their offer, and they haven’t yet done that.

[QUOTE=fordtraktor;8814872]…
Now if they’d already accepted an offer, they can’t just back out and accept another one that is a little better but I believe agents in many places have a duty to present any offer they receive until one is accepted. I am not a real estate expert though, so perhaps some of our realtors can shed light on this and whether it is everywhere now.[/QUOTE]

That’s correct - once an offer is accepted and becomes a purchase contract, sellers usually have very few options to back out. And yes, they can know all the details of subsequent offers. (Not a realtor, but have some experience in real estate.)

However … although a seller can be sued for refusing to honor a purchase contract, in fact there is a certain amount of chicanery that goes on, with few, if any, consequences. If certain unethical professional buyers hear of an exceptionally good price on a contract to buy a property, they will try to “go behind” the contract and approach the seller with a slightly better offer. Try to convince the sellers to ditch their existing contract - it happens sometimes. I guess that is part of the “wars” FalseImpression is referring to.

A buyer or a seller can duck a contract by simply not showing up for closing. No one comes to arrest them or anything. Theoretically the other party can go after them legally, but it’s expensive and there is no certainty of outcome. These situations aren’t common but they do happen, and often with no real consequences.

Canada has tried to bring some order and rationality to certain business practices through active government oversight, whereas in the U.S. the only enforcement is if one injured party goes after another through the courts, with no assurance of outcome.

Strange days indeed. I may have entered The Twilight Zone.

The seller’s frustration with the other potential buyers must have reached a boiling point. The seller contacted me on Friday afternoon asking how quickly we could close if we bought it. After I responded, they asked if we wanted to go look at the property and let them know today if we would be willing to re-submit our offer. :eek:

We spent quite a bit of time there on Saturday, and I let them know this morning we would be willing to re-submit our offer, and they let us know they would be willing to accept that offer. I’m having our attorney put together our offer this morning.

This has started/stopped so many times, I still don’t quite believe we’ll have smooth sailing on the path forward. We’ll see what happens.

Woohoo!! This is very cool! :smiley:

BTW, I’m a firm believer that if it’s meant to be…it will happen.

[QUOTE=Velvet;8820325]
BTW, I’m a firm believer that if it’s meant to be…it will happen.[/QUOTE]

I believe this too. :yes:

You’ll need to post an update…when you have one!

Awesome news!!

[QUOTE=Velvet;8820658]
You’ll need to post an update…when you have one![/QUOTE]

Once all of the papers have been signed, and we are beyond the point of no return, I will post an update!

Wow!!! Since you were starting to regret not getting it, this is quite the happy turn of events … good luck !!!

:):):slight_smile:

If you do close on this, post links to photos of that indoor arena! :winkgrin:

[QUOTE=Kodidog763;8820714]
Once all of the papers have been signed, and we are beyond the point of no return, I will post an update![/QUOTE]

Yes, do that.

“Don’t count your chickens until they are all hatched”.

Wait to be sure your name is on the contracts.
Once the ink is there, celebrate, you deserve it.

Everyone here is holding fingers crossed you get what you want.

[QUOTE=Kodidog763;8802715]
lol - honestly your post made me laugh! I do have moments when I think I can live in a crappy house to get the nice indoor. But then I realize, that I’ll spend far more time in the house than I will enjoying the indoor arena.

Building a home with the MIL apartment is an option - it just requires tearing down the existing house, which seems wasteful.[/QUOTE]

If it is in MN as your location indicates, you’ll want something you can live in. We bought our farm in WA for the land. I love it there. We have the house. We lived in the house for 5 years and survived, but always with the dream of doing something about it. The problem is, the solutions are not cheap… we could put in a little money, but it would not increase the value of the property enough to be close to worth it. Which would be OK, since we want to live our lives there, but things happen… I don’t want to be way down in a deep hole if we try to sell.

I survived the crappy house, I could do it again (we’re currently not living in it since we are taking care of family in MN). I will do it again… But I really wished we had held out for the right house in the first place. Honestly, it’s easier to put in horse stuff than it is to have the right house.

We love the land but I do regret it.

Edited to add: ooops, late to the party. I see you have had a offer accepted! Congrats and may everything go your way!

Told you! :smiley:

Still negotiating?

Waiting for attorneys to complete the purchase agreement. Should be ready for signatures tomorrow.

Well???

:smiley: