I think the police report speaks for its self… I care to waste no more time or energy on this matter. When we were first contacted by Coreen that she was not satisfied. We immediatly offered to trade her any 2 other horses on our web site. After she declined that, we offerd to sell them for her for the price that she paid. She declined that also We have email proof of our offers, and her declines… She said she wanted to keep the horses, and have her money refunded… Hmmmmm I think not. And as far as LULU is concerned please give me the contact information of the former owner out of Tryon. I really need to speak with him reguarding these claims of her being stolen… He sold LULU to a Polo rider in Aiken. The polo rider then sold LULU to Trent, and Andy Neal… Trent, and Andy are the owners of the horse… She was consigned with us. If you would like to speak to the real owner of LuLu you may contact her at 864-993-4973. Just as a warning Andy Neal is infuriated by this entire situation. Contact her at your own risk…
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I have been following the progress of this thread from the beginning, as I read most all of the threads on Hunter/Jumper and the Breeding forums.
I looked at the link that you linked, MSF, above. I am glad that the officers found no foul play at your place, and I am glad that your horses were deemed well taken care of.
You would have looked far superior if you would have just left it at that and not stooped down and posted the remainder of what you posted. Be satisfied that your horses are healthy and that the law attests to that.
Furthermore, it does not appear from that document that any lying has occured (in that document, i don’t know about elsewhere) since it was quoted as supposition only. She “thought” there might be something going on based on the horses she bought. I seriously doubt that the law will bother to go after her based on her premonitions, especially if she is out of state.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I wouldn’t mind hearing your side of the story, since people seem to have so much to say about you. However, I don’t think the personal attacks make you look any better than the people you claim are libeling you (if they are, in fact, telling things other than the truth).
I am not on any bandwagon (even though I am sure I will get flamed from one side of this story or the other), I just hope that something positive can come out of all of this. I know I am naive to think this can happen. I have been on the other side of this story as my trainer from when I was a kid was caught up in wrongfull assertations about insurance fraud and her horses, and I saw the mud-slinging first hand. However, it really is difficult to believe in you when the only things you post on this board are threats, jeers, and personal attacks. Like I said, if you want to answer to the claims people have made against you, I (at least) will listen to you without bias and form my own opinion based off of the “truth” stated from both sides.[/QUOTE]
Well said.
I am also yearning to hear William/Thomson’s response as to why and how TheHarrier’s horses arrived off of the trailer directly from MSF in said and photographed condition. I’d like to know why the condition they were in was deemed acceptable and even healthy to boot.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Animal Control agreed that the horses in the photographs sent to them from the buyer “appeared to be in bad shape”. Hence the investigation.
Even if it’s just the case of these two horses, horses should never look like that and horses in that condition are far from being acceptable.
Again, totally open to hearing the other side of the story…
Ok. I took photos of cascade, and his legs the day before he left… Give me one sec to upload the pics of cascade that we took of him the day before he left. Give me one moment.
uploading pics to flickr now… give me a couple more secs…
Micheal are you wanting to keep the mallards at your farm, or do you want to set them free?? There are several breed variations of the modern mallard duck. Some are exceptional flyers, and other not so much… If you want to raise the and send the out in the wild be sure to buy “flying mallards” It gives them a much greater chance of survival in the wild. If you want to keep them as pets seek out a larger more domesticated mallard varaition. I will be happy to answer any question you have reguarding ducks…
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uploading pics to flickr now… give me a couple more secs…[/QUOTE]
“This photo was taken on April 1, 2011 using a Sony DSC-H3.”
So the horses left MSF on April 2nd? There’s no other way to know exactly when photos were taken simply because a time stamp is easy to change.
TheHarrier’s horses would not be in such terrible condition just in a few days/weeks, that’s months of neglect.
UH OH.
This photo was taken on March 13, 2011 using a RIM BlackBerry 8330. http://www.flickr.com/photos/62244517@N04/5663193411/in/photostream
This photo was taken on March 13, 2011 using a RIM BlackBerry 8330.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62244517@N04/5663193409/in/photostream/
Took screen shots available here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62253521@N03/5663788290/in/photostream
and here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62253521@N03/5663788068/in/photostream/
TO LUNA
Luna,
A picture speaks more than a 1000 words. Take what you will from it… We are not trying to prove anything to anyone… We are simply posting the facts. We did not intend on posting anything at all bc it is complete and utter bull… This whole matter has gotten completly out of control. To where horses are said to have been stolen… This is out of control, and after Im done posting the true facts, I will have nothing else to say on this forum…
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Luna,
A picture speaks more than a 1000 words. Take what you will from it… We are not trying to prove anything to anyone… We are simply posting the facts. We did not intend on posting anything at all bc it is complete and utter bull… This whole matter has gotten completly out of control. To where horses are said to have been stolen… This is out of control, and after Im done posting the true facts, I will have nothing else to say on this forum…[/QUOTE]
I’m just trying to figure everything out. You said in post #160
Ok. I took photos of cascade, and his legs the day before he left… Give me one sec to upload the pics of cascade that we took of him the day before he left. Give me one moment.
those photos were taken the day before he left to go to TheHarrier’s. But the photos have two different time stamps. That’s all. I’m making sure what you’re providing is true.
ETA: I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but it’s just not lining up.
So Mallard, you are claiming the horse went from this:
To this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/61855169@N05/5629295903/in/set-72157626520970358
In one day? On one trailer ride from SC to VA?
Well…
When it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it probably is…gasp…a DUCK!
Haha pun intended (Get it? “Mallard” Springs)
This guy is kooky and provides the best entertainment…keep it coming please! I just sat down with my popcorn!
Luna:
After all the things said about me, and my farm over the last week, I am not surprized that this police report isn’t enough. To be honest, I expected no less. I did not get on here, to do anything other than to provide proof of the findings of the police. I used to do horses because they are fun, and because I loved horses more than anything. Due to constant unproven gossip,my love for horses is no more. SO, CONSIDER YOURSELVES WINNERS! ALL OF Y’ALL WIN! I QUIT! I’m out of the horse business forever. You all have made my experiece so terrible, that I have lost all ALL of my passion for these amazing animals. It’s sad when so much unpleasentness can cause someone to lose the passion of their lives. I don’t care to be in this business anymore. SO, y’all win. I’m out of this business. It’s not worth the lies, gossip, and constant unpleasantness. ALL of YALL can HAVE IT. Just be careful who you attack. You need to know the FACTS before you attempt to distroy someone. Keep your eyes open at all times. This same thing can happen to any of you. I hope that all of you are happy. I hold NO bitterness to any of you. I’m just ready to move on, and never think of a horse again. I hope that the Lord Blesses you all. I ask now, that I please be left alone. I have nothing else to say regarding this matter. May God Bless You ALL!
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Luna:
After all the things said about me, and my farm over the last week, I am not surprized that this police report isn’t enough. To be honest, I expected no less. I did not get on here, to do anything other than to provide proof of the findings of the police. I used to do horses because they are fun, and because I loved horses more than anything. Due to constant unproven gossip,my love for horses is no more. SO, CONSIDER YOURSELVES WINNERS! ALL OF Y’ALL WIN! I QUIT! I’m out of the horse business forever. You all have made my experiece so terrible, that I have lost all ALL of my passion for these amazing animals. It’s sad when so much unpleasentness can cause someone to lose the passion of their lives. I don’t care to be in this business anymore. SO, y’all win. I’m out of this business. It’s not worth the lies, gossip, and constant unpleasantness. ALL of YALL can HAVE IT. Just be careful who you attack. You need to know the FACTS before you attempt to distroy someone. Keep your eyes open at all times. This same thing can happen to any of you. I hope that all of you are happy. I hold NO bitterness to any of you. I’m just ready to move on, and never think of a horse again. I hope that the Lord Blesses you all. I ask now, that I please be left alone. I have nothing else to say regarding this matter. May God Bless You ALL![/QUOTE]
Looks like you lost the “passion” a loooooooonnnnnggggg time ago when you let Cascade and Odessy get in such awful shape.
I can only hope the remaining 14 horses at MSF find themselves in better hands.
PS. the police report AGREED that TheHarrier’s horses were “in bad shape”.
Quoted for posterity.
ETA: Luna beat me to it.
Still waiting for the answer to my question in post #169.
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Took screen shots available here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62253521@N03/5663788290/in/photostream
and here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62253521@N03/5663788068/in/photostream/[/QUOTE]
Thank you
Will give an update on the horses when the bloodwork comes back.
Can someone with knowledge of the situation PLEASE let us know what really happened to Tatabra Lulu?
This is the language of a person who sees animals as objects. Where is the concern for the skinny, sickly horses you sent to Virginia? Thomson/William may wrap himself in the self-righteousness of religion, but seriously? Only someone with a very dark soul would treat animals like that. And furthermore, why would any good horsewoman send animals back to the person who let them decline into such deplorable condition?
I sincerely hope anyone who has been swindled by Thomson/William through an online ad will file an ic3 report online:
I have no comment regarding new information. My concern was for the horses and to be honest I have little faith with local enforcement to be able to determine proper care. So that document means little to me, what may have helped your cause is posting recent photos of all of your horses on the farm. That may have actually made some of us believe it was a one time mistake on your part.
However, the lying/name changing, undisclosed health issues, personal attacks and bullying is what people are concerned about in regards to fraud.
I admit I did not expect this outcome when I posted the original thread. It was an honest inquiry about a farm local to me that I did not know about until a complete stranger emailed me. And its a shame there are people like this in the industry that I love.