Yes!!! And this pit bull amazingly didn’t bite the bystander like the pit bull may have not bit the teen that died…I guess it wasn’t “Switched On”, like some would say?
He did say, “Not “really” had any problems with them”.
This leads me to believe there had been warning signs in the past.
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Link to that Mother’s GoFundMe and her story.
It says so much about current issues where you can have insurance, take your kids to the doctor, and still have your life (lives) totally flipped into debt zone long term on one turn that you would never have dreamed could happen.
As well as this quote:
"I am pregnant and fortunately the baby was not harmed. The three of us were screaming and at some point some people came to try to help. They were yelling commands at me and one of the women had a knife. I will never forget a man hovering over us with the knife saying to me, “I’m sorry. I just can’t harm an animal,” while watching an animal trying to kill my son as I screamed, “MY BABIES! MY BABIES!”
And since is sooo important that everyone get what they want - they had better believe that pit bulls are misunderstood (as are so many of these breeds that are the current doggie trend must haves - these stories will be buried and blamed on the victims.
Nothing to do with what they were originally bred for - bury that nonsense. and paste the dog saving photos everywhere…
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Nearly every “pit bull mauls person” story is scrubbed from mainstream news within 24hrs of it being posted. I frequently come upon them over morning coffee and then by evening, when I may be inclined to forum surf–and thereby post the link here on this thread–the story has vanished to the deep web.
The pit bull lobby is voracious and tireless in their agenda to promote this dangerous breed/type. They are also completely delusional and themselves a threat to public safety with their negligent promotion of this animal as a family-friendly pet. It’s akin to promoting a loaded firearm as a baby crib toy.
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What is their pit bull promoting accomplishing? It’s throwing damaged dogs pilar to post until they find homes for them. Many of the homes that are found are inexperienced people that cannot handle a dog like this and the dog is either returned or it hurts/kills someone.
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They’re recruiting others who are easily brain washed. At least that’s all I can figure out, they remind me of PETA.
I lost a lot of respect for several of my facebook “friends” when there was all the hoopla about rehoming those pitbulls from the dog fighting ring in Ontario.
The dogs don’t know the difference. Give them a few days of controlled walks and love, feed them some treats, and euthanize. Why spend thousands on “rehab” that may or may not work when there are hundreds of normal dogs in shelters without any history of aggression. Bleeding hearts don’t see clearly and unfortunately that’s who seems to adopt these dogs who would otherwise be euthanized.
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I might be wrong but hadn’t the woman and two others that had recently been badly attacked for trying to put a sweater on her pit bull, just recently adopt it?
I could not agree with you more!
such a shortage of dogs in the world, lets rehab all these time bombs! (that’s sarcasm!)
meanwhile genuinely ordinary/normal dogs are ignored because of the Save The Pitties movement.
I pretty much have come to the conclusion that for suburbia//city/town living (COMPANION, not working) dogs need not be anymore than 10 or 15kilos.
at that size they are manageable, their poo size means is more likely to be picked up/bagged, and the number of child deaths - yeah bring on out the Baby eating Chi link :eyeroll: should dramatically fall.
some of the things/behaviors I have personally witnessed at off lead dog parks makes me realise that dogs, in general, forgive and allow humans a giant pass on some simply stoopid behaviour!
after being abused by the attacking-dogs-owner for stopping her huskie from ripping apart a mini long haired dachie (I didn’t actually lay hand on her beast) and that was just the final straw after many other similar events, I refuse to risk my best friend at those sort of off lead zones. we will stick to our local reserve. (dogs are allowed)
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I remember that. They were blamed for trying to put a sweater on the dog. The dog was provoked to maul two people by being dressed in the sweater.
That’s what these rescues do, they hand damaged and aggressive pit bulls that have been punted from pillar to post to almost anyone. Then these idiots that adopt the pit bulls are on a mission to prove that the dog isn’t dangerous by making the dog look as least aggressive as they can and take a picture so they can run and post it online for the world to see.
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And another woman 62, attacked gardening on her property. Severely injured.
Neighbors pit bulls escaped.
http://wfla.com/2017/07/03/st-peters…s-escape-home/
Mostly posting to pay attention to this little clause in districts, towns which seems to allow people across state lines to be attacked on their own property, even cause death with no charges and dogs returned.
Take Away - if you think a dog situation may be dangerous…don’t be polite. Call the situation in.
"Someone from the home eventually made it back to help police and Animal Control officers gain control of the situation.
“They used fire extinguishers, they tried to use pepper spray on the dogs,” police spokesperson Yolanda Fernandez stated.
Police say the dog’s owner won’t face criminal charges because she did not intentionally direct them to attack her neighbors.
“She just moved to the neighborhood; ain’t even been here a week, not even five days actually,” Butler added.
The dogs will remain with Animal Control while an investigation is underway to see if they’ll be reunited with the owner.
And that situation ^^ is what turns me against dogs, big dogs. Big, killer dogs. :mad: Hey where are the people that will post about how Chihuahuas bite.
This is why we need BSL’s for any dog breed that can cause serious harm and/or death.
Although the pit bull is at the top as the most aggressive and deadly and need a very strict and serious BSL and culling, other potentially dangerous dog breeds that could cause serious harm or death need to be put under specific laws as well.
Concerning any other large dog with the potential to cause serious harm/death, any owner that keeps their dog(s) under proper control at all times have no need to worry that any BSL concerning their dog will cause them or their dog(s) any problems. If you don’t keep your dog under proper restraint and control at all times, then you deserve to be whacked with the bad end of a BSL.
For those of you that do keep your dogs under proper control and say, “My dog would never harm/kill a person or other dog!”, that’s fantastic and I hope there will never come a day where you are proven wrong. But the clear and obvious truth remains there are many that don’t or won’t keep their dogs properly under control and this needs to be remedied quickly and strictly.
Innocent people are not dispensable.
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Here is where you and I disagree @CanadianTrotter
I have 2 intact male Dobes right now. They pose no threat to anyone unless you were to break into my house etc They will both be competing in IPO and one may also show conformation (with the breeder). I would not be opposed to muzzles but I would be very opposed to someone telling me I had to neuter them. I won’t even get into the impact on health. That is my prerogative and nobody should be able to tell me otherwise. I invest a lot of time and money into my dogs. They are a huge part of our lives.
Again I can’t understand why laws that are very strict but not breed specific aren’t the answer. I am in full support of dangerous dog laws and full enforcement. That benefits everyone.
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I’m torn, simply because I don’t know how you determine if a dog is dangerous until they’ve done something.and I’m sure most here would agree that prevention is best.
Short of listing all of the breeds that “could” be considered dangerous do you go by height and weight? Where do you draw that line? Most labs and golden retrievers (stereotypical family dog) weighs more your average pit.
Do cities and towns need to enforce muzzling of all dogs if they aren’t in their own backyard? Seems silly when we know that loose dogs are often the problem, crummy owners aren’t going to change that.
Does everyone need to pass some sort of test to license their dog? Again, crummy owners won’t do this, or they’ll find a way around it.
Threatening people with fines and jail time “if” they do something doesn’t seem like a good answer to me either. It doesn’t seem to stop a lot of people from drinking and driving, texting and driving, shop lifting, tax fraud, etc. I doubt it would be any different with those peoples dogs.
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It would appear that CT you have gone from your Pitbull BSL endorsement to now all large dogs, where do you draw the line. What size dog in your world, should the rest of the world own? What exactly is your definition of a large dog. I have Berners, pretty large dogs. Guessing they would be banned as well. Who determines proper control? You know horses can be pretty large and have been know to cause human death…BSL for them as well…why not, they are large and may get out of proper control.
Any dog over about 25# can do very serious damage, But besides weight/height of dog, it’s the behavior of the breed. Don’t pull the “different behaviors within the breed”, yeah I know that. We all know that. Some breeds are prone to attack. German Shepherd Dogs, Dobermans, Pits, etc, pretty much all guard type dogs. If three golden retrievers attacked me I would be astounded, if three Dobies attacked me I would not.
As the old saying goes “It’s the nature of the beast”.
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I think when you have a common denominator in fatal attacks and in hospitalization and extensive damage should you survive, its foolish to sit on your hands and think too bad, so sad.
I think bans usually lead to worse things… but I can see housing associations, neighborhoods that can control BSL stepping up to the plate. It’s not going to make things rough just for owning pitbulls - People do think beyond one breed type being the issue and what the next one will be.
I used to think the issue with pit bulls are that they are just too easy to keep (vs dobes, GS, rotts etc).
However I don’t think is totally what caused this. People Love to point out that dobes, GS, rotts were the supposed poster children for dog attacks in the 70s. Regardless that none of those are on the scale that is happening with pitbull breeds today.
I don’t recall, ever, a push all over showing pictures of dobes, rotts, GS etc licking babies, wearing flowers and shirts - all in promotions to make them nanny dogs. and so, so cool that people are nuts for ever thinking they would ever do anything than love and wink, protect.
This has been done in spades with pits and still done today. If there is a story of an attack, you can bet there will be a huffpost or facebook to how loving and cool pit bulls are, as well as a pic of one that needs to be rescued asap or else.
As these stories breakdown on these attacks, more and more are rescues and adopt cases .
I don’t think its rocket science. Movies cause problems with dogs being sought after. A magazine ad is what made me want a husky as a kid. Now days - people are bombarded with messages and images on what is cool 24/7 and pitbull rescue has been promoted as cool or else…
The attacks and fatalities aren’t going away, if anything they are rising. People need to be aware of how laws work and be proactive to what they see vs assume like everyone else, that five pitbulls will be just fine living in one house in a residential area, because the internet images made that OK.
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See as a life long owner of Dobes, many rescues from sad situations I would be very surprised. Unless you assaulted me or broke into my home. Am I just the best darn dog trainer ever? Certainly not. Only 1 Dobe on the kill list in the US last year. A variety of other one-offs (including Goldens). So how does it make sense to not include all breeds of dog?
I have an intact 120 lb male GSD that I took in 3 yrs ago when his owner was hospitalized. When young this dog was a championship schuzhund dog almost police caliber. This dog wouldnt even attack a burgler unless he was given the specific German command to do so, and the german better be spoken correctly too. Its called training. Thats a dirty word in some dog circles but its the key to a nice dog. All the other male dogs Ive owned in my lifetime have all been neutered because they came from rescues/shelters, required by law. After owning this dog and after reading about the health benefits on not neutering, I see no reason to neuter unless there was a medical one to Do so.
