Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[Ghazzu]

Post-traumatic inflammatory response and high volumes of fluids administered to deal with hemorrhagic shock can result in abdominal compartment syndrome–swelling/edema of the viscera–which can have an adverse effect on respiratory efforts as well as direct further damage to the viscera from pressure.

[trubandloki]

@jvanrens

@hut-ho78

However, the house was officially a two apartment house. The basement was not permitted as living quarters and only had one egress.

What a load. MHG testified testified in court that the apartment that LK and superman were staying and the basement had access to the main part of the house. So the basement had two means of egress.

Thank you @jvanrens. I thought I remembered that the basement had two forms of egress too. Thank you for confirming that and telling us where it can be confirmed.
Clearly Hut is not remembering that correctly.

@hut-ho78

No more two piece bathing suits.

Why?
I have a huge ugly scar on my arm and I wear short sleeved shirts. Why is an abdominal scar equal no bikinis? That is a weird thing to say and to believe.

@Ghazzu

Post-traumatic inflammatory response and high volumes of fluids administered to deal with hemorrhagic shock can result in abdominal compartment syndrome–swelling/edema of the viscera–which can have an adverse effect on respiratory efforts as well as direct further damage to the viscera from pressure.

Thank you for explaining this!!!

[eggbutt]

@trubandloki

In other words, she likely does not know them at all, but wants to feel like part of their tight knit group.

Well, that’s downright sad. Of course people want to belong to something, but goodness me, aim higher!

[Kitty64]

I think it’s amazing they figured out how to do that!

[Sdel]

@trubandloki

Thank you for confirming that and telling us where it can be confirmed.
Clearly Hut is not remembering that correctly.

A much more charitable descriptor than accusing her of lying and making stuff up in her head just to post stuff.

[hut-ho78]

@jvanrens

@hut-ho78

However, the house was officially a two apartment house. The basement was not permitted as living quarters and only had one egress.

What a load. MHG testified testified in court that the apartment that LK and superman were staying and the basement had access to the main part of the house. So the basement had two means of egress.

Were you not in at the beginning? Do you not remember the original discussion and subsequent discussions in other threads on basement egress? Perhaps you should go back and catch up. If you start at Woman Shot at Barisone Farm and search that thread for “egress” there is a comment by @trubandloki. If you search for “basement” there are a lot of posts. @ohnoO even mentions one I remember but have not been able to find in a while where someone said the red sign on the door specifically mentioned exits for the basement. Even KM discussed basement exits.

Woman Shot at Barisone Farm

I don’t know. In NYC the fire marshals get you out immediately. The only possible thing to file in NYC would be an Article 78 petition in Supreme Court alleging the NYFD acted unlawfully. Don’t know the NJ equivalent. A fire department usually removes folks for lack of exits. There must always be 2 ways to exit any domicile in case of fire. So if someone is in a basement with only the stairway going upstairs as a way out, the fire department can evict from the basement. Dangerous wiring situat…

Of course, if all you are here for is solely to be snarky either without information or in the face of it, I can’t help you there.

[MHM]

@DownYonder

Not to mention all the companies that provide tenant screening services. They can provide reports that include eviction history, background checks, credit scores, etc., all of which can aid a landlord in deciding if a prospective tenant is worth the risk.

I would imagine those reports are used more by people who are entering into a tenant/landlord agreement from scratch with strangers. Probably not as much in a situation with people who are already clients in your primary business.

Although obviously, as it turns out, it would have been a good idea.

[LexInVA]

@Sdel

@trubandloki

@Sdel

@trubandloki

Well, this could be a situation where someone wants to feel special and part of something so they choose to use the familiar name that the family uses instead of the name the rest of the society uses.

7 days after the shooting? How would a random internet poster with no connection at all even know that someone went by their middle name instead of a first name?

Because Hut likes to google the snot out of everything (not always finding the right facts, but that is beside the point) and I would bet there were some available posts someplace where people called him Guy.

I thought she didn’t follow LK’s social media? I certainly didn’t find any…and neither did anyone else on that thread….not enough to reference him as such.

Nobody outside of his particular - it’s a common immigrant family name there - Goodwin family and perhaps some who knew him growing up ever refer to him as “Guy”. Sometimes, his family members chime in on whatever Lauren and Robert post and refer to him as “Guy”. Ostensibly, they do that to differentiate him from the many other Robert Goodwin individuals living in the region or perhaps his father, though there is no information whatsoever about who his father was, only that he died or left years ago and died, when RG and his sister were very young.

[DownYonder]

@Sdel

@MHM

If the two small marks above her hand are from the bullets, and the surgeon described the wounds as going upward through her body, if I recall correctly, I’m still wondering how that was physically possible if the 5’2+/- LK was next to the 6’3” MB, as she testified.

Yes, we pointed this out. He had to be on his knees or on the ground with her standing over him to make it work. Didn’t jive with the testimony given. One other possibility, self inflicted would give the correct angle as well.

To me, that has been one the most incongruous pieces of this whole thing. I remember trying to drill down on it during one of the previous threads, and I still have major doubts about it - despite all the photos and descriptions of lung sizes and placement, and the conjecture that the trajectory of the round may have been affected by it hitting a rib (IIRC, there was no testimony from the surgeon that may have happened). It just seems so implausible that a round could enter and exit the way it did if MB and LK were both standing.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@trubandloki

Thank you for confirming that and telling us where it can be confirmed.
Clearly Hut is not remembering that correctly.

A much more charitable descriptor than accusing her of lying and making stuff up in her head just to post stuff.

And was there an exit to the outside? Do y’all not remember the discussion on how to bring a basement to code when it is flooding through the only entrance to the main part of the house? Remember the description of digging a hole outside and adding stairs and a door? It’s a major structural repair that does require permits. Any memory? No? Ok. You aren’t reading, you are just sneaking.

This is just baiting.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Were you not in at the beginning? Do you not remember the original discussion and subsequent discussions in other threads on basement egress? Perhaps you should go back and catch up. If you start at Woman Shot at Barisone Farm and search that thread for “egress” there is a comment by @trubandloki. If you search for “basement” there are a lot of posts. @ohnoO even mentions one I remember but have not been able to find in a while where someone said the red sign on the door specifically mentioned exits for the basement. Even KM discussed basement exits.

Did I say that I know if there is egress or not? Or did I just participate in a discussion about egress? Feel free to share my post here.
Your implying one thing and I am sure that is not the case.

Since then other facts have come out and it has been shown that the basement does have two forms of egress.

@hut-ho78

Of course, if all you are here for is solely to be snarky either without information or in the face of it, I can’t help you there.

I am not sure why you think every post requires a snarky comment at the end.

[DownYonder]

@hut-ho78

Please note his Facebook page was still open to the public. These posts were all before my post.

Lame excuse. Most media including FB named him as Robert Guy Goodwin. Only someone with familiarity would make the leap to calling him “Guy.”

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder

@hut-ho78

Please note his Facebook page was still open to the public. These posts were all before my post.

Lame excuse. Most media including FB named him as Robert Guy Goodwin. Only someone with familiarity would make the leap to calling him “Guy.”

Guy is much shorter to type though.

I prefer Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Stark/Superman.

[hut-ho78]

@DownYonder

@hut-ho78

Please note his Facebook page was still open to the public. These posts were all before my post.

Lame excuse. Most media including FB named him as Robert Guy Goodwin. Only someone with familiarity would make the leap to calling him “Guy.”

And you are wrong.

[Jealoushe]

His FB is “guy” at least the user name part.

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

Were you not in at the beginning? Do you not remember the original discussion and subsequent discussions in other threads on basement egress? Perhaps you should go back and catch up. If you start at Woman Shot at Barisone Farm and search that thread for “egress” there is a comment by @trubandloki. If you search for “basement” there are a lot of posts. @ohnoO even mentions one I remember but have not been able to find in a while where someone said the red sign on the door specifically mentioned exits for the basement. Even KM discussed basement exits.

Did I say that I know if there is egress or not? Or did I just participate in a discussion about egress? Feel free to share my post here.
Your implying one thing and I am sure that is not the case.

Since then other facts have come out and it has been shown that the basement does have two forms of egress.

@hut-ho78

Of course, if all you are here for is solely to be snarky either without information or in the face of it, I can’t help you there.

I am not sure why you think every post requires a snarky comment at the end.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Were you not in at the beginning? Do you not remember the original discussion and subsequent discussions in other threads on basement egress? Perhaps you should go back and catch up. If you start at Woman Shot at Barisone Farm and search that thread for “egress” there is a comment by @trubandloki. If you search for “basement” there are a lot of posts. @ohnoO even mentions one I remember but have not been able to find in a while where someone said the red sign on the door specifically mentioned exits for the basement. Even KM discussed basement exits.

Hey @hut-ho78, I found my post in the other thread. It was just as I described above and not how you tried to imply I was saying specifically that this house did not have proper egress from the basement.

I am actually chuckling because I do not specifically remember making this post but it is just what I imagined it would be.
Please note the part I have highlighted for you in yellow.
For the viewing pleasure of all who wondered what I had said about egress in the original thread:

[smoofox]

The obvious “leap” would be to call him Rob or Robert… not Guy.
I do not get referred to by my middle name.
Even LK called him Rob in her posts and rants.

Whatever. << said in my best 14 year old dismissive tone

[trubandloki]

@Jealoushe

His FB is “guy” at least the user name part.

His FB is currently Jim E Stark.
It was changed after his account was used to make all kinds of nasty comments on the 48hours page.

[Sdel]

@Jealoushe

His FB is “guy” at least the user name part.

That does not imply that he goes by Guy or that a person unfamiliar to him should reference him as Guy. His actual page lists it as, currently, Jim E Stark and previously Robert Guy Goodwin.