Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[Jealoushe]

@OntheFnce

As an international competitor with the likelihood of being tested (you as well as your horse), why would you want to take the risk of a drug abuser potentially lacing food (yours or your horse’s)…especially since those abusers had an axe to grind.

Furthermore, they are running a business and minors were on the property. No way in hell would I want to take a risk with drug addicts on my property nor would I want to ride/board with drug addicts on the premises.

I have no idea what this has to do with my comment, I was asking about one specific scenario regarding testing riders at National shows.

I don’'t even know whose property you are talking about? Barn? Show? My barn? Whose lacing my horses food? What’s this have to do with my question?

[Knights_Mom]

@lazaret

I don’t know how it could be any clearer that MB was starting the legal eviction process by securing an attorney and sending a notice to quit which is always the first step. You can’t file in court without having told the tenant they are in violation and must leave.

But further to that, those rules apply to HUMAN tenants and there’s no such rules applying to EQUINE tenants. Denying services and telling someone they have to get their horses out is a process that has nothing to do with a legal eviction from a residential property.

Absolutely. Like I posted yesterday I would have disassembled the barn around them, shut off the barn utities, removed stall doors, arena gates etc.

Horses do not have tenancy rights.

[MHM]

@DownYonder

@MHM

@Warmblood1

I’d like to know who gets prescribed multiple boxes of suboxone or has that many on hand to throw away?

I thought they were throwing away the empty boxes.

Maybe the old boxes had been tucked out of sight somewhere so nobody would see them. Wasn’t that what made MB run a background check once he saw all the boxes? Not sure if that’s the right order of events.

I don’t remember that exact sequence of events either, but if they were trying to keep the boxes hidden so no one would see them, why did they then throw multiple boxes in the trash? Of course, perhaps they assumed that MB/MHG et al would never look in the trash can.

So many questions…

I wonder if it was after MB moved out of the house and into the barn, so at that point they tossed their stash of empty boxes in the trash at the house.

I think there are behaviors of addicts that most of us will never be able to imagine or understand.

As you say, so many questions.

[trubandloki]

@Knights_Mom

@lazaret

I don’t know how it could be any clearer that MB was starting the legal eviction process by securing an attorney and sending a notice to quit which is always the first step. You can’t file in court without having told the tenant they are in violation and must leave.

But further to that, those rules apply to HUMAN tenants and there’s no such rules applying to EQUINE tenants. Denying services and telling someone they have to get their horses out is a process that has nothing to do with a legal eviction from a residential property.

Absolutely. Like I posted yesterday I would have disassembled the barn around them, shut off the barn utities, removed stall doors, arena gates etc.

Horses do not have tenancy rights.

You could do all those things and some people would still say that no one told Lauren she needed to leave.

[trubandloki]

@cutter99

Come on trub- step up your game!

I am so sorry that I am behind with my proper shrine building.
I have been busy looking for my copy of today’s bingo card and lost track of time.

[Jealoushe]

@BigMama1

Here in Ontario, a national dressage show was told to conduct rider testing not long after cannabis became legalized in Canada. There was a sudden and dramatic number of scratches that day once word got around that drug testers were on site

Wow really? That is wild. I was tested twice this summer (my horses) and I actually asked them if they tested riders and they said it wasn’t their responsibility. I wonder if it’s a third party that does it from Sport Canada or whoever?

I think cannabis is going to be coming off the WADA list soon. Which is great news for those who use it for therapeutic purposes and don’t have to jump through all the hoops of a TUE.

[Angela_Freda]

@DownYonder

I don’t remember that exact sequence of events either, but if they were trying to keep the boxes hidden so no one would see them, why did they then throw multiple boxes in the trash? Of course, perhaps they assumed that MB/MHG et al would never look in the trash can.

So many questions

I assumed it was after everyone was booted out if the house.

But then, even while in the house they had separate apartments in it, so one simply wouldn’t see the trash if one wasn’t in their apartment, and who would be?

Maybe RC saw it and took the pics when she went in and Rosie bit her? Maybe someone saw them after they got info from people they contacted about her, and the addict shoe fell?

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[trubandloki]

Do they not freaking recycle in NJ? Why are boxes not going into the recycle bin instead of the trash?

[cutter99]

@BrownDerby, very, very sadly, much to Mr. Cutter’s dismay, my Chronicle of the Horse paychecks never make their way to my mailbox. Thus, I must resign my position, as while it gives me great joy and lets me wield unlimited power, it ain’t payin’ the hay bill!

[Jealoushe]

I didn’t think recycling was a big thing in the US? Is it where you are?

[Knights_Mom]

@cutter99

@eggbutt

Wow! I am shocked at your background and experience in “worship”.

Seriously, I don’t think you have a clue what you are trying to talk about. Why you jumped on this thread ready to rock the world with your thoughts without any background is beyond me. At a minimum you could take 47 minutes of your life and watch the 48 Hours episode for a start. Of course in the episode you will see Lauren all dressed up as though she is doing a fashion spread with full model makeup, cooing to horses that aren’t hers, at a facility she has nothing to do with, and refusing to discuss the trial on the advice of counsel. She, and her father, portrayed her as an innocent ingenue. Contrast that act with her SM posts, the stories of previous victims, the 911 calls, the impeached testimony she and her boyfriend gave during the trial, the posts of her mother and father on these threads, and you might gain a clearer picture of the person you are so eagerly and naively trying to persuade anyone to believe is an innocent victim and that Barisone is the devil himself.

Your posts have offended many long time posters here, but I doubt you realize that or care. Again I will say, no one here considers Michael Barisone a God to be worshipped.

I would respond to this post by @eggbutt with a long response, but since I have decided to worship Michael Barisone as a god, I am very busy decorating my house and putting up my Barisone tree. The neighbors are questioning the tiaras and dressage saddles strewn about the yard, but I will convert them yet!

My own household Golden Michael. I did a thing in the front yard and just decorated it for Michaelmas.

[CanteringCarrot]

The US is so far behind when it comes to recycling. Having lived much of my life in Europe, I am deeply disturbed by the lack of recycling in the US. It’s 2022, get with it! Why is it not a thing?!

Some areas are definitely better than others. My friend in MA has a company that does trash, plastics, and paper (individual bins). That’s the way it should be. Plus glass.

[Angela_Freda]

Indeed most of us who have been around the block understand that the truth is usually somewhere in the middle of any mess.
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[BrownDerby]

A sad day but thank you for your service. Just think of all your free time!

[Knights_Mom]

@Jealoushe

@BigMama1

Here in Ontario, a national dressage show was told to conduct rider testing not long after cannabis became legalized in Canada. There was a sudden and dramatic number of scratches that day once word got around that drug testers were on site

Wow really? That is wild. I was tested twice this summer (my horses) and I actually asked them if they tested riders and they said it wasn’t their responsibility. I wonder if it’s a third party that does it from Sport Canada or whoever?

I think cannabis is going to be coming off the WADA list soon. Which is great news for those who use it for therapeutic purposes and don’t have to jump through all the hoops of a TUE.

It should come off as it’s not a performance enhancing drug unless the sport is looking at all the pretty colors LOL

[Ghazzu]

@Joanne

I have now put out my Barisone elf on the shelf.

Doesn’t that fall under the umbrella of illegal surveillance?

[cutter99]

@ekat

Finally, the court has ruled on all the pending motions.

Will continue to update here.

11152022 Rulings on Motions.pdf (596.3 KB)

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MBAmendAnswerFormal.pdf (268.9 KB)

See @trubandloki! Why can’t you be more like @Knights_Mom! She has obviously read her worship guide and gets it! Maybe KM could take you under her wing and mentor you!

[Knights_Mom]

@Jealoushe

I didn’t think recycling was a big thing in the US? Is it where you are?

We recycle paper, plastic, cans, bottles

[cutter99]

Thank you @BrownDerby!

Unlike certain banned posters here, I am not a woman of unlimited means, and these damn ponies keep eating!

[Angela_Freda]

@Jealoushe

Wow really? That is wild. I was tested twice this summer (my horses) and I actually asked them if they tested riders and they said it wasn’t their responsibility. I wonder if it’s a third party that does it from Sport Canada or whoever?

The people testing horses aren’t/wouldn’t be the same people who test people/riders afaik.