Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[Knights_Mom]

@cutter99

I’ll take 2 of the smaller and 3 of the larger!

Such a small price to pay for my absolute dedication to all things Barisone!

[Warmblood1]

@LexInVA

@Warmblood1

As someone who has been through a hell of a lot of pain management due to well, horses, I’d like to know who gets prescribed multiple boxes of suboxone or has that many on hand to throw away? It’s odd.

You must refer back to what I said many many many many moons ago. Suboxone, like the rest of the controlled narcotics/narcotics-adjacent substances was handed out in large numbers. Via medicare/medicaid and other programs, there was a lot of taxpayer money changing hands to “help the addicts”, but it was all a sham that lined the pockets of the industry and unscrupulous doctors, who got their cut. The short version is they were giving it out in massive quantities - to both addicts and non-addicts - and making $$$$$$ from it, in both legal and illegal markets, as much of the Suboxone handed out was diverted into the street drug market, as a supplement to regular narcotics. In addition to that, the companies behind Suboxone manufacturing and distribution cornered the market and overcharged for the product, leading to billions in fines and settlements.

I know it varies by state. In my state, you can not pick up more than a 30 day supply of narcotics at a time and refills require a new written prescription and authorization. So it would be hard to get multiple boxes of suboxone unless I held on to a box a month and then threw away several months worth at a time. Pain clinics are the same. People wait in line first of the month, every month.

@DownYonder

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless

None of the 911 calls asked for help in evicting them. If he had been sufficiently coherent to say he wanted them gone, presumably the police officers would have informed him of the eviction procedure. It’s not calling 911.

Of course no one calls 911 to evict people.

Trying again to catch up but wanted to say that I watched an episode of COPS a few weeks ago (I am not sure that is right name for the show, but it is a reality show that depicts real life situations that police officers deal with on their calls).

In that episode, a man had called 911 to have the police come and make a person leave who had been living in the upper section of his detached garage. The person was his mentally ill cousin who was sleeping and staying in a loft area of the garage that was used for storage. It wasn’t a real living space, had no furniture, no bathroom, no cooking appliances, but the cousin was staying there anyway and the man could not get him to leave. The police officers had to climb a ladder to get into the loft and convince the man to come down so they could take him somewhere for evaluation.

It was of course not the same as a true eviction (in the legal sense of the word), but it was a case where police responded to a 911 call to have a “squatter” removed from their property.

It sounds like PD got called for a welfare check and he was brought to the hospital for a mental health evaluation which is very different, but police can enforce that. I’ve known some schizophrenics, for example, who were called by a concerned party and since they were off their meds and not able to care for themselves, they were brought to the hospital and then put on a 5150 hold by ER doctor and had a minimum 72 hour stay at the psych hospital.

[eggbutt]

But, I DONT WANT A CREAM ONE! I WANT A BAY!

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

But, I DONT WANT A CREAM ONE! I WANT A BAY!

Okay Karen, they are out of stock

[RegentLion]

Very late to this but I’ve often considered getting a Welsh Terrier!

[Angela_Freda]

Ah, that could be.
I wonder if the volume of boxes was due to them preparing to move, per the negotiations with Tarshis, or were the boxes discarded well before that?

[Angela_Freda]

@cutter99

Here’s the thing- if they wanted to keep the Suboxone boxes hidden, they would have.

How difficult would it be???

You collapsed the box, put it inside a bag with other garbage, throw it in the can and no one is the wiser.

Either very sloppy or didn’t care who knew

Or they knew it might exacerbate the distress at having them there.
Kinda like a bombshell dropping.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Warmblood1

Of course no one calls 911 to evict people. The 911 call clearly conveys that MB wanted LK and RG gone. MB already had Tarshis negotiating the logistics of LK leaving.

I believe the background provided by 48 Hours on the point that MB was in the midst of a tug of war between MHG and LK. MHG wanted LK gone. LK wanted excellent training from MB. The two women want conflicting things from MB.

MB needed to choose: end the training relationship with LK/tell LK to leave/evict LK (any of those actions) or tell MHG that he was keeping LK as a client and MHG would have to put up with it.

MB did not choose. There is no evidence that he asked or told LK to leave. He did not tell MHG that he was keeping LK as a client.

IM had a post about a year ago in which he said that MB was attempting to play it both ways —. telling MHG to back off, he would deal with LK while telling LK that he would deal with MHG.

When MHG asked him why they couldn’t just evict LK, he responded that he was going to make things to miserable tor them them they would beg to leave.

I see the 911s as a demonstration to MHG that he is making things miserable for LK as promised in his plan to scare and harass them out.

Rational people don’t call 911 5 times a week to summon the police on their clients if they want the client gone. A rational person would have informed the client that the client relationship was ended and proceeded with eviction if necessary.

It was established in court that he was delusional/insane as of Aug 7, 2019. There are many indications of irrational behavior in the days before the shooting. In particular, the whole pattern of behavior in which he made a show of attempting to make her “beg to leave” rather than asking her to leave or evict her.

It was working. Tarshis and JK attempted to find an alternative place acceptable to LK. ED snd Tarshis we’re in the process of attempting to resolve things legally when MB vented his frustration with a gun.

[Angela_Freda]

How about a Michael Golden God dressage boot leg lamp?
With a chandelier tiara shade?

[Paint_Party]

@Knights_Mom

I’ve started a business BTW selling mini Michael Golden idols. $19.99 plus shipping and handling.

Must I bow and lower my eyes before approaching said golden idol?

Also, I’d like to inquire about incense. Burning incense keeps away the evil spirits (or so I hear).

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

If he had gone to the police department to say he needed help getting a tenant out, a non supervisor, maybe a clerk, probably would have informed him of the procedure.

That’s not what he went to the police department for. He went to went to complain that the police had not responded as he wished to his 911 calls,

How do you know this?

[Sparky]

@Omgitsme

If @DreadPirateRoberts follows through you are legally obligated to have “slain by The Dread Pirate Roberts” in your obituary.
Other Princess Bride references are suggested but not required.

And he has to sign a waiver that you gave him permission to kill you.

[BrownDerby]

Don’t forget the elf.

[Warmblood1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Warmblood1

Of course no one calls 911 to evict people. The 911 call clearly conveys that MB wanted LK and RG gone. MB already had Tarshis negotiating the logistics of LK leaving.

I believe the background provided by 48 Hours on the point that MB was in the midst of a tug of war between MHG and LK. MHG wanted LK gone. LK wanted excellent training from MB. The two women want conflicting things from MB.

MB needed to choose: end the training relationship with LK/tell LK to leave/evict LK (any of those actions) or tell MHG that he was keeping LK as a client and MHG would have to put up with it.

MB did not choose. There is no evidence that he asked or told LK to leave. He did not tell MHG that he was keeping LK as a client.

IM had a post about a year ago in which he said that MB was attempting to play it both ways —. telling MHG to back off, he would deal with LK while telling LK that he would deal with MHG.

When MHG asked him why they couldn’t just evict LK, he responded that he was going to make things to miserable tor them them they would beg to leave.

I see the 911s as a demonstration to MHG that he is making things miserable for LK as promised in his plan to scare and harass them out.

Rational people don’t call 911 5 times a week to summon the police on their clients if they want the client gone. A rational person would have informed the client that the client relationship was ended and proceeded with eviction if necessary.

It was established in court that he was delusional/insane as of Aug 7, 2019. There are many indications of irrational behavior in the days before the shooting. In particular, the whole pattern of behavior in which he made a show of attempting to make her “beg to leave” rather than asking her to leave or evict her.

It was working. Tarshis and JK attempted to find an alternative place acceptable to LK. ED snd Tarshis we’re in the process of attempting to resolve things legally when MB vented his frustration with a gun.

I’m glad you finally acknowledge that LK was asked to leave and that negotiations for her exit were negotiated prior.

Saying that MB called 911 multiple times in utter panic to “please MHG” is absolutely absurd. It is obvious to everyone that no one wanted LK on the property.

For example, MB was paying for security every night on his property. He was fearful for his family and his horses. He was calling 911 because he was desperate and afraid. That is clear to anyone listening.

Legally MB must tell LK to leave prior to formal eviction. I’m certain he did, especially since he was working with attorneys.

This love triangle you like to spout sounds like it’s directly from LK. No one is buying it. MB was not torn between LK and MHG. MB wanted her gone and there is plenty of evidence for that that you refuse to accept.

[Warmblood1]

@Paint_Party

@Knights_Mom

I’ve started a business BTW selling mini Michael Golden idols. $19.99 plus shipping and handling.

Must I bow and lower my eyes before approaching said golden idol?

Also, I’d like to inquire about incense. Burning incense keeps away the evil spirits (or so I hear).

We need the extra large sage stick to keep the evil from permeating our MB altars and shrines.

[OntheFnce]

@BrownDerby

@Jealoushe

I don’'t even know whose property you are talking about? Barn? Show? My barn? Whose lacing my horses food? What’s this have to do with my question?

I believe she is referring to RC’s testimony at the trial, when LK was feeding a client’s horse treats after being asked not to.

For clarity, she asked if testing was done on riders at that level. My point was not typically at LK’s level. Per USEF, FEI is the only one testing riders and I believe they use WADA to administer those tests. Anyone who has been selected to ride on Team USA at Olympics, Pan Am Games, etc. are subject to random drug tests from USADA as well as WADA. However, horses can be tested at any USEF sanctioned show. And yes, drugs can be laced for riders and horses, so why would Barisone want to take that risk at his facility?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

That’s not what he went to the police department for. He went to went to complain that the police had not responded as he wished to his 911 calls, and demanded to speak to the supervisor. What do you think he expected the police to do? Arrest LK and RG for not signing a document? Arrest LK for posting weird stuff on Facebook? Do you wish he had been successful in bullying the police into arresting LK for posting of FB? Do you doubt the man is a bully when he marches into the police station and attempts to bully the police ?

The visit to the police station was an illustration of his inability to take sensible action and his tendency to vent his frustration in confrontational ways instead.

Totally untrue.

He went there to get the police to do their job. Every single civil service supervisor MUST meet with the public when requested. The supervisor/commanding officer was derelict in their duty by not doing so. It wreaks of bias and malfeasance.

Any citizen is within their absolute right to speak with the person in authority. Unless you’re in Russia or China.

What did he want the officers responding to the 911 call to do when he called 911 to complain that LK was refusing to sign a document?

[Paint_Party]

@Angela_Freda

If I didn’t know better, I’d say someone has flounced back in…

Oh, I love me a good flounce!
And I’ll bet my Bingo card that there have been several flounces, both out… and back in.

[MHM]

It’s bizarre how the recycling policies are so different all over the place. Some places you have to sort out your recycling, some places it all goes in the bin together, some places you can drop it off for free, some places you have to pay, or you can drop off residential recycling for free, but pay for commercial recycling.

It seems crazy that there does not seem to be one workable system for everybody.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Warmblood1

Of course no one calls 911 to evict people. The 911 call clearly conveys that MB wanted LK and RG gone. MB already had Tarshis negotiating the logistics of LK leaving.

I believe the background provided by 48 Hours on the point that MB was in the midst of a tug of war between MHG and LK. MHG wanted LK gone. LK wanted excellent training from MB. The two women want conflicting things from MB.

MB needed to choose: end the training relationship with LK/tell LK to leave/evict LK (any of those actions) or tell MHG that he was keeping LK as a client and MHG would have to put up with it.

MB did not choose. There is no evidence that he asked or told LK to leave. He did not tell MHG that he was keeping LK as a client.

IM had a post about a year ago in which he said that MB was attempting to play it both ways —. telling MHG to back off, he would deal with LK while telling LK that he would deal with MHG.

When MHG asked him why they couldn’t just evict LK, he responded that he was going to make things to miserable tor them them they would beg to leave.

I see the 911s as a demonstration to MHG that he is making things miserable for LK as promised in his plan to scare and harass them out.

Rational people don’t call 911 5 times a week to summon the police on their clients if they want the client gone. A rational person would have informed the client that the client relationship was ended and proceeded with eviction if necessary.

It was established in court that he was delusional/insane as of Aug 7, 2019. There are many indications of irrational behavior in the days before the shooting. In particular, the whole pattern of behavior in which he made a show of attempting to make her “beg to leave” rather than asking her to leave or evict her.

It was working. Tarshis and JK attempted to find an alternative place acceptable to LK. ED snd Tarshis we’re in the process of attempting to resolve things legally when MB vented his frustration with a gun.

Your insistence on this is beyond my reasoning. It has been proven via words and deeds that LK knew she had to go. Any normal barn situation or tenancy doesn’t normally require the formal filing of an eviction in court. That is done for tenants who need financial assistance to leave or for problem tenants. Why you fail to acknowledge this defies logic.

Admit it. Just admit it. LK wanted to be a pain and a burden as long as she could. She wanted to finish the bastard, destroy his business, relationship, peace and tranquility. It was all vengeful acts to punish him for not choosing her.

She knew she had to go. Her acts prove that. One does not report someone for kiddie dingling charges or neglect and expect to become teachers pet a few weeks after.

Every act she did screams of punishment and vengeance and I KNOW we will one day find out so much more.

And that behavior is simply indefensible IMO.