Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless

@smoofox

And one more time, for those in the back who still do not seem to understand this, he did nt call 911 simply because they refused to sign - but because of their aberrant behavior when asked to sign.

Yes, the aberrant behavior was RG staring directly at MB from the parking lot and filming MB with his phone while waiting for the police to arrive in response to MBs 911 call.

Would the staring and filming have occurred if MB had not engaged them by demanding they sign the documents?

This is like asking if a sexual assault would have occurred if someone hadn’t worn a short skirt.

He had every right to ask them to sign what is assumed to be a waiver of liability. RG’s intimidation and harassment were completely unwarranted.

SMH.

I agree that MB had every right to ask them to sign whatever agreement he wanted. They had every right to decline to sign it.

I still find it difficult to imagine it was a straightforward renewal of an already signed liability waiver. It seems more likely that it contained some changes to the terms of their previous agreement.

Once they declined to sign it, MB had every right to end their existing client relationship.

When they declined to sign it, instead of accepting their decision and ending the interaction by walking away, MB decided to call 911 and prolong the interaction. We don’t know if he ordered them to wait in the parking lot until the police arrived. We do know that he ordered RC not to leave.

[ekat]

Did anyone watch Ruth Cox’s testimony that was linked here yesterday?

She explains quite clearly what the releases were for.

LK said she was bringing in people including an elderly person to ride the horses. Ruth refers to “the attorney” meeting with them(RC and MB) and giving them releases to have LK sign regarding bringing people on the property.

And, when presented, per Ruth Cox, RG threatened her and MB.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, the aberrant behavior was RG staring directly at MB from the parking lot and filming MB with his phone while waiting for the police to arrive in response to MBs 911 call

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@smoofox

Once again, you manage to ignore the antics and threats that had become “normal” by that point. I imagine the reaction to that new document was explosive - based on LK’s repeated threats and bragging about what a badass she was on her SM posts… as witness by her SM posts about that incident.

But you think it was all about benign staring .

Mmmmkay.

I’m not “imagining” a reaction.

MB mentioned that RG was “staring right at him in a menacing way” and “filming him” on the 911 call.

[iridedressage]

Agree! When I moved my horse last year, the boarding contract I signed literally had a clause in it saying there will be no gossiping or drama in the barn. At another barn when the BO had to raise rates we all signed a new contract reflecting the change. Happens all the time!

[OntheFnce]

@ekat

Did anyone watch Ruth Cox’s testimony that was linked here yesterday?

She explains quite clearly what the releases were for.

LK said she was bringing in people including an elderly person to ride the horses. Ruth refers to “the attorney” meeting with them(RC and MB) and giving them releases to have LK sign regarding bringing people on the property.

And, when presented, per Ruth Cox, RG threatened her and MB.

Yes, I had mentioned this up-thread.

[OntheFnce]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@smoofox

Once again, you manage to ignore the antics and threats that had become “normal” by that point. I imagine the reaction to that new document was explosive - based on LK’s repeated threats and bragging about what a badass she was on her SM posts… as witness by her SM posts about that incident.

But you think it was all about benign staring .

Mmmmkay.

I’m not “imagining” a reaction.

MB mentioned that RG was “staring right at him in a menacing way” and “filming him” on the 911 call.

And? I would call 911. Could this have also been when RG made the pointing gun with his hand at MB?

ETA: you seem to forget LK and RG are admitted drug addicts.

[BigMama1]

@trubandloki

I have to assume not because you are still spreading incorrect information, that was covered in the trial. You making up what happened is saying more about you than I think you would like it to. Maybe go watch the testimony.

I think past experience tells us CH is not going to stop posting false information, despite knowing it’s false.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless, I think I asked this just yesterday. Did you watch the trial or the online recordings of it. Specifically the testimony of Ruth Cox? It was suggested I think yesterday you watch that regarding the 911 call you are insisting was from them not signing papers. Have you watched it yet? I have to assume not because you are still spreading incorrect information, that was covered in the trial. You making up what happened is saying more about you than I think you would like it to. Maybe go watch the testimony.

Yes, I did watch the RC testimony. Regarding threats made to MB, she first said that RG stated that he would not permit MB to control the care of LKs horses.

Bilinkas insisted on refreshing RCs memory regarding what she said to the police on Aug 7. In the police report on Aug 7, RC stated that RG said something like “I’m going to take you down”.

That was not in the police report on the Aug 4 911 call, as far as I am aware.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

When they declined to sign it, instead of accepting their decision and ending the interaction by walking away, MB decided to call 911 and prolong the interaction. We don’t know if he ordered them to wait in the parking lot until the police arrived. We do know that he ordered RC not to leave.

I think this is where you’re straying.
What makes you say this?
On what illustration of the interaction, exactly, do you base that on?
Did someone tell you? You read it somewhere? You watched it described during the trial?

[ekat]

@OntheFnce

Could this have also been when RG made the pointing gun with his hand at MB?

No, that was when the health inspectors and fire Marshall’s were there.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Bilinkas insisted on refreshing RCs memory regarding what she said to the police on Aug 7. In the police report on Aug 7, RC stated that RG said something like “I’m going to take you down”.

That was not in the police report on the Aug 4 911 call, as far as I am aware.

Wait, what?
So your point is that there were threats made both times?

[Jenerationx]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Apparently the cops told Barisone he could not prevent her from riding for refusing to sign the document. My interpretation would be that they considered the posted sign as providing sufficient notice of the state law on liability and that Barisone did not have the right to require more given that he had permitted her to ride there for months without any written liability agreement.

No. That absolutely did not happen. The police do not get to set policy for a private business. They don’t get to decide what hours a business needs to be open either so she was not told that he can’t set barn hours either.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BigMama1

@trubandloki

I have to assume not because you are still spreading incorrect information, that was covered in the trial. You making up what happened is saying more about you than I think you would like it to. Maybe go watch the testimony.

I think past experience tells us CH is not going to stop posting false information, despite knowing it’s false.

No, @BigMama1, I have never, ever, not once posted false information “despite knowing it’s false”.

I may misremember, I may be wrong, but I have never knowingly posted false information.

You are free to document any instances in which you believe I have done so, or not, as the spirit moves you.

[Maria]

[DownYonder]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have not seen screen shots in which she said she “had been told to leave”.

I would not be one bit surprised if she never admitted in a post that she had been “told to leave” or “asked to leave.” It would not support the narrative that she had no flippin’ idea that they wanted her to leave - so she didn’t.

But we all know the REAL reason she didn’t leave was as someone that exhibits all the signs of extreme NPD, she MUST win. LOSING would mean she had been REJECTED - and as I have said before, that would be a fate too horrible for her to contemplate.

[trubandloki]

@Maria, I think you win the internet with this post:

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Angela_Freda

@CurrentlyHorseless

When they declined to sign it, instead of accepting their decision and ending the interaction by walking away, MB decided to call 911 and prolong the interaction. We don’t know if he ordered them to wait in the parking lot until the police arrived. We do know that he ordered RC not to leave.

I think this is where you’re straying.
What makes you say this?
On what illustration of the interaction, exactly, do you base that on?
Did someone tell you? You read it somewhere? You watched it described during the trial?

What? We know he called 911 because the 911 call exists.

[Maria]

LOLOLOLOL I am going to EDIT in a minute. Dangit. I have the hardest time remembering how to post pictures. LOLOLOL

[DownYonder]

@BrownDerby

Yes, so afraid that she acquired a Florida home very close to his.

Except at the time, she was certain that he would be found Guilty and locked up in jail for a very, very long time. I wonder if she has since wondered for even a nanosecond if buying that property was a good idea.