Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[BrownDerby]

IM who was not even at the scene. Not even in the same country at the time.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

Up after a fretful, painful night to see the back and forth with deniers and excusers continues.

I wonder what the mom and pop strategy is now to refuse to obey? Maybe leave the country again? Perhaps it truly is time to subpoena all those LK shared the recordings and perhaps police reports with!

Unless you see new motions for contempt or new motions to compel, that would suggest everyone is complying.

Really? Hmmmm. You certainly seem to know more than most. It can/will take weeks of maneuvering and ridiculous excuses (the documents were lost by TWO law firms) before any contempt filings are seen.

Goodness, maybe I should call in favors from my insider peeps to obtain current info! Maybe I can get a copy of that police report too! /s

How did my response there suggest to you that I have inside knowledge?

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

How did my response there suggest to you that I have inside knowledge?

How exactly did you manage to make the same arguments here on the board that Nagel made for his quash motions? They were not exactly standard legal arguments and you claim to not be in law.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@BatCoach

Baloney. I’m about 300 posts behind but we’ve done this dance before. You are so keen to defend @Inigo-montoya that even when proof of his lying or duplicity is shown you have said “oh he’s being sarcastic”

So, I’m looking at post history, it seems one of CH’s first few posts to the board was to jump into the open MB thread and proclaim IM’s credibility.

So? Is that a “tell”?

Is Hut-Ho a secret agent deployed by Robert Guy Goodwin? Or is Hut-Ho someone who has access to Google? Hmm. I’m hearing hoof beats. Is it a horse, a zebra, or a unicorn that I hear?

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Your position is that he had no economic incentive to agree to the initial deal and only did so because JK threatened him.

What is the documentation for that claim , @Knights_Mom?

Go to @ekats opening post that lists the legal papers submitted and you will find that claim sworn to in papers filed on MBs behalf. It’s been referenced repeatedly on COTH.

Ah, so the claim that JK threatened MB as been asserted in legal papers filed by MBs lawyers?

In the civil suit against the police?

Was it asserted by the lawyers “upon information and belief”?

Did the legal filing provide some sort of documentation of the threat like a text message, email or phone recording, or is just an assertion “upon information and belief”?

If JK is really the root of the whole mess for having coerced MB into letting LK onto the property in April 2019, I wonder why MB and SGF are not suing JK.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant by the word “documented”.

It was sworn to. Just like testimony in court. Perhaps you want video?

The irony that you believe JK and LK with zero evidence but not sworn testimony is laughable.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

How did my response there suggest to you that I have inside knowledge?

How exactly did you manage to make the same arguments here on the board that Nagel made for his quash motions? They were not exactly standard legal arguments and you claim to not be in law.

Indeed, I claim not to be in law.

[trubandloki]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Your position is that he had no economic incentive to agree to the initial deal and only did so because JK threatened him.

What is the documentation for that claim , @Knights_Mom?

Go to @ekats opening post that lists the legal papers submitted and you will find that claim sworn to in papers filed on MBs behalf. It’s been referenced repeatedly on COTH.

Ah, so the claim that JK threatened MB as been asserted in legal papers filed by MBs lawyers?

In the civil suit against the police?

Was it asserted by the lawyers “upon information and belief”?

Did the legal filing provide some sort of documentation of the threat like a text message, email or phone recording, or is just an assertion “upon information and belief”?

If JK is really the root of the whole mess for having coerced MB into letting LK onto the property in April 2019, I wonder why MB and SGF are not suing JK.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant by the word “documented”.

It was sworn to. Just like testimony in court. Perhaps you want video?

The irony that you believe JK and LK with zero evidence but not sworn testimony is laughable.

Laughable is not the word I pick.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@roseymare

Businesses are not only about daily cash flow.
And you are stuck on this idea that the business was floundering and needed cash. We do not know if that is true. It is an assumption on your part from a couple of texts and phrasing from one witness.

I would think that their would have been witnesses talking about non payment if that really was a problem. Like the hay and feed guys, insurance etc etc.
Someone tried to make it true about the heat in the house but that was proven false by LP receipts. There is simply no prove that there was a serious cash flow problem.

I agree that there is more to a business than monthly cash flow.

I am not asserting that the business was “floundering” and “needed cash.”

Whether the business was barely breaking even, generating hefty positive cash flow every month, or making losses every month on a cash flow basis, it’s basic economics that monthly cash flow is improved as long as marginal revenue exceeds marginal cost.

Jay T was a horse owned by Barisone, occupying a stall and eating hay. If Barisone sold Jay-T to LK for $40,000, with the provision that Barisone would not charge LK for board the horse, the change in ownership does not increase MBs monthly costs at all. In the meantime, he gets a $40,000 lump sum payment.

What? You do know the horse eats, don’t you? Eating costs money.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Is Hut-Ho a secret agent deployed by Robert Guy Goodwin? Or is Hut-Ho someone who has access to Google? Hmm. I’m hearing hoof beats. Is it a horse, a zebra, or a unicorn that I hear?

Searching the name Robert Goodwin doesn’t bring up RG in any easy way. You have to know to put in the Guy part. And nothing about a random google search would suggest to use the middle name as a reference.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Your position is that he had no economic incentive to agree to the initial deal and only did so because JK threatened him.

What is the documentation for that claim , @Knights_Mom?

Go to @ekats opening post that lists the legal papers submitted and you will find that claim sworn to in papers filed on MBs behalf. It’s been referenced repeatedly on COTH.

Ah, so the claim that JK threatened MB as been asserted in legal papers filed by MBs lawyers?

In the civil suit against the police?

Was it asserted by the lawyers “upon information and belief”?

Did the legal filing provide some sort of documentation of the threat like a text message, email or phone recording, or is just an assertion “upon information and belief”?

If JK is really the root of the whole mess for having coerced MB into letting LK onto the property in April 2019, I wonder why MB and SGF are not suing JK.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant by the word “documented”.

It was sworn to. Just like testimony in court. Perhaps you want video?

The irony that you believe JK and LK with zero evidence but not sworn testimony is laughable.

Just to clarify, you’re saying that it was asserted by MBs lawyers in a court filing without the preamble “upon information and belief”?

I’ll go back and look for it, thanks.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

How did my response there suggest to you that I have inside knowledge?

How exactly did you manage to make the same arguments here on the board that Nagel made for his quash motions? They were not exactly standard legal arguments and you claim to not be in law.

Simple logic.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

Is Hut-Ho a secret agent deployed by Robert Guy Goodwin? Or is Hut-Ho someone who has access to Google? Hmm. I’m hearing hoof beats. Is it a horse, a zebra, or a unicorn that I hear?

Searching the name Robert Goodwin doesn’t bring up RG in any easy way. You have to know to put in the Guy part. And nothing about a random google search would suggest to use the middle name as a reference.

Or just read these threads for a couple of days. It’s repeated hundreds of times if not thousands.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

Is Hut-Ho a secret agent deployed by Robert Guy Goodwin? Or is Hut-Ho someone who has access to Google? Hmm. I’m hearing hoof beats. Is it a horse, a zebra, or a unicorn that I hear?

Searching the name Robert Goodwin doesn’t bring up RG in any easy way. You have to know to put in the Guy part. And nothing about a random google search would suggest to use the middle name as a reference.

So is Hut-Ho a secret agent deployed by Robert Guy Goodwin?

This is exciting.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

Is Hut-Ho a secret agent deployed by Robert Guy Goodwin? Or is Hut-Ho someone who has access to Google? Hmm. I’m hearing hoof beats. Is it a horse, a zebra, or a unicorn that I hear?

Searching the name Robert Goodwin doesn’t bring up RG in any easy way. You have to know to put in the Guy part. And nothing about a random google search would suggest to use the middle name as a reference.

Or just read these threads for a couple of days. It’s repeated hundreds of times if not thousands.

Really, it was posted that Guy’s family was reading hundreds of times just after the shooting in 2019.

Look at that…7 days after the shooting…and no one was referring to him as Guy. Not even LK at that point.

[Rubyroo]

@trubandloki

I have never been at a training barn where if someone rides with underling trainer A, that underling trainer A had to get approval from NameOnTheDoor trainer to refuse to train that person anymore.

You just moved the goal posts because this conversation started by someone saying that Michael’s girlfriend had the authority to ask boarders to leave permanently and take their horses elsewhere without Michael’s knowledge or permission. This was not a discussion about training until you just mentioned it in the post quoted above.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

@Paint_Party

@Angela_Freda

@hut-ho78

MHG was not yet in partnership with MB. She did not contribute to his income. She did not pay rent or board for herself or her 8-9 horses. She was not in a position to make decisions about boarders as she had no legal role in the business.

Says who?

Yeah, this seems like a lot of nuts’n bolts kind of information that’s not public knowledge. Plus, it reads like declarative statements that have been spoon fed to the poster. In my opinion.

At both my previous barn and my current one (both show and training barns), the romantic/personal partners of the trainer certainly did help make decisions on whether an annoying client stayed or was asked to leave. That’s why they’re in a relationship: because they trust and rely on each other’s input.

Testimony in court. Trying watching YouTube or listening.

Didn’t you know to call RG, Guy in the very first thread and mention his family was reading? No one here has ever called him that except LK, and it was after you did and she only did it once. I don’t think any of the news articles did that either.

So, how did you know to call him by his middle name?

Called someone who was all over the news I was interested in by their full name? I doubt I was the first to do so.

The comment I made about families reading was about LK and MB and was a plea to stop trashing both of them.

Why is it so hard to believe I’m not an insider or have a dog in this hunt? Is this your own motive talking now? Projection maybe?

[Rubyroo]

@Sdel

Multiple legal documents (which means they will eventually have to prove the claim) and LK’s own SM about having to “enforce” contracts (lawsuits are how you enforce

There are multiple legal documents showing that Lauren’s father threatened Michael into allowing Lauren to live on his farm?

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

Called someone who was all over the news I was interested in by their full name? I doubt I was the first to do so.

You didn’t use a full name. You preferentially used the middle name of someone you claimed to not know.

[Sdel]

Oh look, a shift change.

[BrownDerby]

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