Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[Angela_Freda]

@ninakl

That’s not how I remember it. LK had two horses. I pay $1800 a month for one horse, full training board. I’m not in New Jersey where real estate tax is astronomical. Even so, $5,000 for two horses seems fair, albeit a little low…
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Then Symphony arrived. This was a sunk cost because I doubt she was showing, maybe suitable for lessons. $5,000 divided among three horses is ~$1700 per month. Then JayT was purchased.

So now $5000 for board and training (and maybe farrier care) for FOUR horses.
Plus an apartment/house.

She was getting the Dressage bargain of the century.

[OntheFnce]

@Angela_Freda

@ninakl

That’s not how I remember it. LK had two horses. I pay $1800 a month for one horse, full training board. I’m not in New Jersey where real estate tax is astronomical. Even so, $5,000 for two horses seems fair, albeit a little low…
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Then Symphony arrived. This was a sunk cost because I doubt she was showing, maybe suitable for lessons. $5,000 divided among three horses is ~$1700 per month. Then JayT was purchased.

So now $5000 for board and training (and maybe farrier care) for FOUR horses.
Plus an apartment/house.

She was getting the Dressage bargain of the century.

Given all that plus an indoor, that would be a bargain for a local “backyard” facility.

[Angela_Freda]

Here it would. Last I looked board in my area at a top (A circuit, so not Olympic) place with an indoor and good turnout, is close to $1500, and that’s with no training.

[MHM]

@Mersidoats

Poor RG. He got traded back and forth like a mule multiple times by LK to “cover” her horses’ costs. If I were him, I’d miss my old life back in NC, as well.

I genuinely feel sorry for poor Rosie, even though she may have done some bad things, since she did not have a choice in her owners or her living situation.

RG, not so much.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Ambitious_Kate

@McGurk

am as constant as a northern star”

And I said, “Constantly in the darkness
Where’s that at?
If you want me I’ll be in the bar”

My favorite Joni Mitchell

Oh, you’re in my blood like holy wine
You taste so bitter and so sweet, oh
I could drink a case of you, darling
And still I’d be on my feet
I would still be on my feet.

One of the best.

A stunning cover of this song is done by Prince. I had no idea.

a case of u

[OntheFnce]

@Angela_Freda

Here it would. Last I looked board in my area at a top (A circuit, so not Olympic) place with an indoor and good turnout, is close to $1500, and that’s with no training.

In the Long Valley area, not sure that would include A circuit…just backyard with an indoor, but I no longer live in the area so things might be different and it’s been quite some time since I paid full training board in that area.

[hut-ho78]

Back to the box of 9 mm ammunition that didn’t fit any weapons but RC’s, I hope its age and location purchased has been determined. It will be interesting to see how that may be used in court.

[cutter99]

@Ambitious_Kate

@Ambitious_Kate

@McGurk

am as constant as a northern star”

And I said, “Constantly in the darkness
Where’s that at?
If you want me I’ll be in the bar”

My favorite Joni Mitchell

Oh, you’re in my blood like holy wine
You taste so bitter and so sweet, oh
I could drink a case of you, darling
And still I’d be on my feet
I would still be on my feet.

One of the best.

A stunning cover of this song is done by Prince. I had no idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNOoRPl3Ehg

Ahhhhh, Prince! So yummy on a cold, dreary Sunday morning! After that, my husband might just get lucky this morning!

[Angela_Freda]

@hut-ho78

Back to the box of 9 mm ammunition that didn’t fit any weapons but RC’s, I hope its age and location purchased has been determined

Don’t hold your breath.
If it had been damning wouldn’t the state prosecutor trotted it out if it was available?
Shoddy investigation by this PD hurt everyone.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

Only two people spoke about effing killing someone. One was MHG about LK.

Hearsay. Not yet in evidence. The only actual evidence of this is a “transcript” of a recording that was produced to an organization that could ruin MHG’s career by a person with a goal to ruin MHG’s career and drive her away from MB. Furthermore, it was produced by a person who swore under oath that they lie. Additionally, it was stated during trial that SS had dismissed the complaint against MHG as being unfounded and that LK had filed the same complaint against both Barisone and MHG.

So, therefore, it is easy to conclude that the “transcript” is a fabrication and a recording of this statement does not actually exist.

[hut-ho78]

@Ambitious_Kate

@hut-ho78

MHG made it very clear that she and MB worked together but she was not a part of MBD. She had her own clients that paid her directly. She did not contribute to MB’s finances. She was not paid by him. She did not pay board for her 8-9 horses. She did not pay rent. She is separate from his business. Whether or not she told LK to stay or go when LK’s verbal arrangement was with MB may have been good advice or an outburst in anger or frustration but it was not binding.

To say otherwise drags her right back into the legal continuation of a nightmare experience for her and her children. It may be that she would have ended up being in charge of everything at HH while MB went back to giving clinics and showing but they had not progressed to that point yet by her own testimony. She has moved on with her life and successful competitive career. Why keep harping about her role in MB’s business dealing with LK? It does not help him to say that MHG was in a power position with MBD to tell LK officially to leave. Instead, it pulls MHG back in after she has carefully distanced herself. How do y’all not see that?

It doesn’t matter! Its none of your business! what the fruitbat is your obsession with MHG? The only one obsessed with MHG is Lauren Kanarek, and apparently you and CH, so give it a rest! I has no bearing on anything! It has no bearing on her behaviour, its just her excuse to act out, it was none of her business what MB"s marriage, divorce, girlfriend business arrangements were, it was none of her freaking business, and its none of your freaking business!!! It doesn’t matter who said what, they all wanted her gone, off the property for their personal reasons. Its not your concern, its nobody’s concern. Get a grip! Stop promoting her toxic manure about MHG, it was none of her freaking concern. Get it? Do you even remotely get it? Can you even for a minute stop yourself? Just stop.

Days of people posting about MHG and you choose to say the above to me on my post above? Did you even read my post? I really like the use of all the exclamation points on a post telling someone else to get a grip.

@Rubyroo has an excellent point of none of this being anyone else’s business.

How many times have you defended the shooting victim’s privacy? Her family’s privacy?

Look to yourself.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

Only two people spoke about effing killing someone. One was MHG about LK.

Hearsay. Not yet in evidence. The only actual evidence of this is a “transcript” of a recording that was produced to an organization that could ruin MHG’s career by a person with a goal to ruin MHG’s career and drive her away from MB. Furthermore, it was produced by a person who swore under oath that they lie. Additionally, it was stated during trial that SS had dismissed the complaint against MHG as being unfounded and that LK had filed the same complaint against both Barisone and MHG.

So, therefore, it is easy to conclude that the “transcript” is a fabrication and a recording of this statement does not actually exist.

Ok. Good point. I don’t remember the “effing kill her” by MHG being testified to in court though I do remember the “get rid of her” was.

[hut-ho78]

@Angela_Freda

@hut-ho78

Back to the box of 9 mm ammunition that didn’t fit any weapons but RC’s, I hope its age and location purchased has been determined

Don’t hold your breath.
If it had been damning wouldn’t the state prosecutor trotted it out if it was available?
Shoddy investigation by this PD hurt everyone.

Nagel may follow up on it.

I think LE did a good job. No one died. The prosecutor met the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the highest standard, that MB shot LK twice. The defense met the burden of proof by a preponderance of evidence that MB was insane at the time. Though Mb committed the act, he is not guilty of a crime.

[cutter99]

@hut-ho78

@Angela_Freda

@hut-ho78

Back to the box of 9 mm ammunition that didn’t fit any weapons but RC’s, I hope its age and location purchased has been determined

Don’t hold your breath.
If it had been damning wouldn’t the state prosecutor trotted it out if it was available?
Shoddy investigation by this PD hurt everyone.

Nagel may follow up on it.

I think LE did a good job. No one died. The prosecutor met the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt, the highest standard, that MB shot LK twice. The defense met the burden of proof by a preponderance of evidence that MB was insane at the time. Though Mb committed the act, he is not guilty of a crime.

Very interesting supposition… very interesting.

[Sdel]

@BrownDerby

Same thoughts occurred to me as well. Like something written in parents’ basement too. All that’s missing is talk of annihilation.

There were two parts I left off. I only posted those two because they covered recent topics…

[Tazzie]

I’m sorry if I totally missed it, but where does this come from? Thank you!

[Sdel]

@MorganSercu

Exactly how was LK capable of being “on the lookout” for troublesome texts & emails that weren’t sent directly to her?

One thought: there are spyware apps that can be put on phones that will capture texts, emails, phone calls, pictures and other things and send them to a cloud for 3rd party access. Some will even allow you to turn on the speaker of the phone and allow it to act as a remote bug and listen in to ambient surroundings. They run invisibly on the phone and cannot be found.

My husband’s ex wife used one on her current husbands phone. We know because she confronted my stepson about a call he made to him while she was on a psych hold by replaying him the phone call.

Other than that, no idea.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

Only two people spoke about effing killing someone. One was MHG about LK.

Hearsay. Not yet in evidence. The only actual evidence of this is a “transcript” of a recording that was produced to an organization that could ruin MHG’s career by a person with a goal to ruin MHG’s career and drive her away from MB. Furthermore, it was produced by a person who swore under oath that they lie. Additionally, it was stated during trial that SS had dismissed the complaint against MHG as being unfounded and that LK had filed the same complaint against both Barisone and MHG.

So, therefore, it is easy to conclude that the “transcript” is a fabrication and a recording of this statement does not actually exist.

Ok. Good point. I don’t remember the “effing kill her” by MHG being testified to in court though I do remember the “get rid of her” was.

As in….leave the farm. Which it is pretty well established is what everyone wanted. Didn’t we just see a FB post about her coming upon JH and McGrain discussing that very thing in her ninja veils and bare feet while sitting on a rock?

[Sdel]

@Tazzie

I’m sorry if I totally missed it, but where does this come from? Thank you!

LK’s FB from before the shooting. It is part of the “manifesto” that Bilinkas asked her about during the trial.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

I think to her it was a bait and swap. She already had a really good trainer. She left for him.

This type of thing happens all the time in the world, a person leaves one trainer for a different one that they think will be better and in the end they think their first trainer was a better fit for them.
A logical person in this situation simply leaves the second trainer and politely goes back to the first trainer. No need to destroy anyone along the way. Just adult and go back, or find trainer 3.