Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[BigMama1]

@hut-ho78

Otherwise, what would the body count have been?“

I guess that depends who really pulled the trigger

[Sdel]

@Warmblood1

It sounds as though heart rhythm may have stopped once, began again, and then there was an issue with maintaining blood pressure. They clamped the aorta and repaired the lung damage which stabilized the blood pressure.

Correct. The surgeon did not reference shocks or CPR.

[trubandloki]

I am glad to see you back @CurrentlyHorseless, did you find the police report for us yet?

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

@trubandloki

All the medical team that has treated him has already deemed him not a risk to himself or others.

The final decision is the court under advisement of the medical staff. The court is to consider that someone who has committed a violent act has demonstrated a danger to themselves or others while those deemed to be a danger to themselves or others have not yet shown that they are. I found that rather convoluted but it’s in the state (of New Jersey) vs Fields 1978. Try reading it.

Your reading of the law is the last place I will take advice from, but thanks for the very silly suggestion.
I prefer to take legal advice from people who actually have legal knowledge, not someone who has proclaimed themselves too smart to actually understand what is being said.

@hut-ho78

Two bullet holes in LK who flatlined twice.

This only proves that Lauren Kanarek was shot twice, not who shot or how the shooting happened.

@hut-ho78

Officer Wettenberg saying blood everywhere.

The evidence showed that the blood everywhere was Michael’s, not Lauren’s, as was also proven by her shirt having almost no blood on it.

@hut-ho78

RG on top of MB when Officer Heymer arrived.

This only proves that Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Stark/Superman was beating up Michael.

@hut-ho78

Full magazine found in MB’s pocket by Officer Hessler.

So strange that the first officer that searched Michael did not find this magazine, no?

@hut-ho78

911 calls.

To me this proves that Michael was truly scared of Lauren Kanarek and Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E stark/Superman.

@hut-ho78

ED hearing two shots fired.

Darn, that is not really how that testimony went, was it? I believe Ed the Amazing Ear Witness actually testified to the fact that he heard screaming and then two noises that he later assumed were gun shots after Lauren Kanarek told him she was shot.
Add that he also impeached himself more than once on the stand.

@hut-ho78

Testimony from two eye witnesses and one ear witness.

All these of those people were impeached on the stand.

@hut-ho78

Control and possession of the gun. Who bought that extra ammo and where and when?

Who bought the extra ammo is a great question, but you know as well as anyone does that if there was anyway that Michael bought it the prosecution would have brought it up at the trial.

@hut-ho78

Fast arrival of LE rendering changes to the crime scene by affected parties impossible.

Even the law enforcement admit that Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Stark/Superman was allowed to run around the scene without supervision so there was plenty of ways the scene could have been modified. But heck, none of that matters because the police did not bother to look for any evidence that anything else could have happened.

I agree with these responses 100% by @trubandloki

[jvanrens]

Interesting the surgeon stated she didn’t require any further surgery. Didn’t someone insist she had multiple surgeries?

[Knights_Mom]

@Warmblood1

https://youtu.be/rDmMG_xFm2U

I went back and listened the the thoracic surgeon who operated on LK.

Apparently LK’s heart never stopped twice. It sounds as though heart rhythm may have stopped once, began again, and then there was an issue with maintaining blood pressure. They clamped the aorta and repaired the lung damage which stabilized the blood pressure.

I seriously do not understand the compulsive lying surrounding the details of this entire incident.

It’s all about the drama

[Knights_Mom]

@jvanrens

Interesting the surgeon stated she didn’t require any further surgery. Didn’t someone insist she had multiple surgeries?

Yes.

[Graymaresrule]

@Knights_Mom

@jvanrens

Interesting the surgeon stated she didn’t require any further surgery. Didn’t someone insist she had multiple surgeries?

Yes.

Maybe she needed her implant replaced

[MorganSercu]

The one that deflected the bullet - but no paper written and submitted to JAMA about it yet!

[RHdobes563]

@Jealoushe

How many horses were actually paying boarders/ training at that time? Can’t remember if that’s been confirmed.

Well, if MB had ONLY two boarders other than LK’s two, it’s still more profitable if she had left. Because that would have made the apartment available.

[hut-ho78]

@jvanrens

Interesting the surgeon stated she didn’t require any further surgery. Didn’t someone insist she had multiple surgeries?

Opened up before the thoracic surgeon.

Surgery by the thoracic surgeon.

Surgery soon after to open her belly from “stem to stern” when her organs were swelling to allow her to breathe.

Surgery later to repair her breast.

Others are possible but then I don’t know them so don’t have the details.

[Warmblood1]

@BigMama1

@Warmblood1

Wow. So even the “flat lined twice” thing is made up? I do believe the medical expert would have testified to CPR occurring, let alone twice.

Are you surprised? They may have lost her pulse or she may have momentarily stopped breathing, but that isn’t the same as flatlining. Just like an ambulance ride isn’t the same as being airlifted to hospital. Strange how some here persist in repeating her stories word for word though, isn’t it?

Well, no.

I think I cycle in and out of amusement and disbelief in these threads and right now, I’m back to disbelief.

My brother was killed by gun shot when he was 14. While I do believe MB acted in self defense, I can still relate to gun shot victims and their families. Having that perspective, it just blows my mind that a family would behave this way and that others would parrot and defend their behavior.

[trubandloki]

@Warmblood1 I am so sorry about your brother!

[Knights_Mom]

I understand needing a little time to find other accommodations but what I’ll never understand is why someone would CHOOSE to engage in a reign of terror.

Were I needing to find a new barn and accommodations I would try to make that time as drama free as possible. I’m sure most people would opt for this.

What I and others don’t understand and will never understand is the multifaceted campaign of drama, trauma, harassment, threats, ninja-ing, illegal recordings etc.

For instance there would be zero reason LK would need recordings. After she left MB wasn’t going to come after all. He’d delete her number from his phone and try to forget she exists.

This was all just so unnecessary.

[MHM]

So very sorry for your loss.

[eggbutt]

I am so very sorry about your brother.

[MHM]

@Knights_Mom

It’s all about the drama

Despite her claims in multiple posts that she avoids drama.

[jvanrens]

@Graymaresrule

@Knights_Mom

@jvanrens

Interesting the surgeon stated she didn’t require any further surgery. Didn’t someone insist she had multiple surgeries?

Yes.

Maybe she needed her implant replaced

We need a beer spewing emoji. Instead I’ll have to go with :\

[trubandloki]

Hey, the way I understand it, at a certain point a woman gets saggy even with implants so even if the implants are still fine they sometimes get them changed out for a different style that helps them stay more young looking.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@jvanrens

Interesting the surgeon stated she didn’t require any further surgery. Didn’t someone insist she had multiple surgeries?

Opened up before the thoracic surgeon.

Surgery by the thoracic surgeon.

Surgery soon after to open her belly from “stem to stern” when her organs were swelling to allow her to breathe.

Surgery later to repair her breast.

Others are possible but then I don’t know them so don’t have the details.

She doesn’t have stem to stern scars.

Unless she has scars under her arm as I do from the lung being removed and placed on a table for repair. But that’s not stem to stern.

Not making fun of her wounds, just seeking accuracy, not untrue dramatic license being taken.