Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[Omgitsme]

What does this even mean? “One of your own” (whatever that means) brought what up?

[Sdel]

@Rubyroo

@CurrentlyHorseless

No, the gun charge was not for possession. It was for the use of the gun in the commission of the attempted murder. Since MB was found NG on the attempted murder charge with respect to RG, he was also found NG on the associated gun charge.

Likewise, MB was found NGRI on both the attempted murder charge and the associated gun charge with respect to LK.

They won’t even watch the trial because they know they’re wrong and they can’t admit it.

Aren’t you the one who admitted you had only seen the opening statements? Nor were you willing to actually go read any of the back threads…including the one where we were all discussing the trial in real time?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Omgitsme

What does this even mean? “One of your own” (whatever that means) brought what up?

It was @Knights_Mom who brought up the topic of the verdict by asking why, if the cops and prosecution did a good job, wasn’t MB found Guilty?

She asked. I answered.

[hut-ho78]

@Jenerationx

No, you are misrepresenting the situation. You have referred to MB as an active shooter multiple times. He was not. The standard definition is not just about location but intent to kill indiscriminately. It doesn’t matter if the scene was chaotic. A family annihilation killing or domestic violence shooting will be chaotic, but they’re not an “active shooter” situation. We don’t call someone that murders their family a “serial killer,” and we should not call MB an “active shooter.” You’ve been told multiple times this is incorrect and continue to do it, so at this point you’re willfully posting the fallacy.

You really need to listen to the trial again before making accusations. How many LE have to testify under oath that the all went out as an active shooter call? It doesn’t matter if no one listens to their testimony or reads the literature about the disagreement on definitions.

[Rubyroo]

@Sdel

Aren’t you the one who admitted you had only seen the opening statements? Nor were you willing to actually go read any of the back threads…including the one where we were all discussing the trial in real time?

No, I said I watched some, but not all, of the trial. Today I went back and rewatched some of it, and posted the part that confirms the points of the charges and verdict I have claimed here, and instead of actually watching the parts that I referenced, some of you are still insisting I’m wrong. It’s insane.

Also, why would I go read your commentary of the trial while it was going on? If you don’t understand the charges and the verdict now, I doubt you understood any of it then.

[Rubyroo]

@Omgitsme

What does this even mean? “One of your own” (whatever that means) brought what up?

Sometimes you have to go back a little further than the quoted post and read the entire exchange to understand what’s going on.

[Jenerationx]

There is no disagreement on definitions among law enforcement. Only with you. Dispatch often does not have all of the information at the beginning of a call and classifies as the highest priority to get proper help rolling as it’s easier to downgrade than upgrade. Being dispatched as active shooter does not mean that MB was an active shooter. I dispatched a structure fire when someone saw smoke coming from a neighbors garage roof… rolled the whole FD… it turned out to be a car in the driveway burning. We didn’t refer to that as a structure fire for the next 3 years.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@Rubyroo

@Sdel

Seems we want to ignore the gun charges that he should have been found guilty for if the jury felt the burden was met for “attempted murder” and believed he brought the gun.

They found that the prosecution met the burden of proof for both the attempted murder and the gun charges with respect to Lauren. Then they deemed Michael insane for both of those charges, so the final verdict for the two charges involving Lauren were NGRI and NGRI.

Sure Jan.

Why are you saying “sure Jan.” So you think that is her name? Are you trying to dox her? Y’all got YD banned for doing that to someone on a private message.

[LookinForSpace]

@trubandloki

Because, when we do not respond them come back with - no one disagreed with my point so that must mean you all agree with it.

That’s true. But from prior threads, it seems the best way to short-circuit the endless repetitions from the Dory Crew (Finding Nemo reference!) is to simply reply as succinctly as possible with No or Wrong and leave it at that. Dunno, maybe it’s no longer effective, but might be worth a try.

For RG SchillySchally tossed in Aggravated Assault.

Can I respectfully ask that posters Not get creative with names? In this case, the man was doing his job, whether we agree with how he does it or not. I get that feelings run high when it comes to the individuals involved in the altercation, but I just see no reason to play games with names, particularly those of the professionals involved, regardless of what their job entails. When they (people in general, not referring to the legal pros in the case) go low, we go high and all that. Just a suggestion and MHO.

@Knights_Mom

Actually, I asked a question NOT TO YOU and you responded

Hmmmm. Are you sure KM? I’m starting to wonder if some of these screen names have multiplied strangely. I don’t understand how new names pop up on these threads, exhibit little to no horse knowledge, yet have clearly followed many of the Kanarek/Barisone threads here, and become vehemently involved suddenly. Other than a few legal types who have stated a general interest in court cases and followed the trail to this board expressly for this case, it seems weird for those who claim no such legal background or interest. Maybe I’m off track, and really, it doesn’t matter at all, but…HMMMM again!

Carry on…!

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@Rubyroo

@Sdel

Seems we want to ignore the gun charges that he should have been found guilty for if the jury felt the burden was met for “attempted murder” and believed he brought the gun.

They found that the prosecution met the burden of proof for both the attempted murder and the gun charges with respect to Lauren. Then they deemed Michael insane for both of those charges, so the final verdict for the two charges involving Lauren were NGRI and NGRI.

Sure Jan.

Why are you saying “sure Jan.” So you think that is her name? Are you trying to dox her? Y’all got YD banned for doing that to someone on a private message.

It’s a cultural reference.

[Sparky]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@Rubyroo

@Sdel

Seems we want to ignore the gun charges that he should have been found guilty for if the jury felt the burden was met for “attempted murder” and believed he brought the gun.

They found that the prosecution met the burden of proof for both the attempted murder and the gun charges with respect to Lauren. Then they deemed Michael insane for both of those charges, so the final verdict for the two charges involving Lauren were NGRI and NGRI.

Sure Jan.

Why are you saying “sure Jan.” So you think that is her name? Are you trying to dox her? Y’all got YD banned for doing that to someone on a private message.

[Omgitsme]

The Brady Bunch.

[Sdel]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@Rubyroo

@Sdel

Seems we want to ignore the gun charges that he should have been found guilty for if the jury felt the burden was met for “attempted murder” and believed he brought the gun.

They found that the prosecution met the burden of proof for both the attempted murder and the gun charges with respect to Lauren. Then they deemed Michael insane for both of those charges, so the final verdict for the two charges involving Lauren were NGRI and NGRI.

Sure Jan.

Why are you saying “sure Jan.” So you think that is her name? Are you trying to dox her? Y’all got YD banned for doing that to someone on a private message.

It’s a cultural reference.

https://giphy.com/gifs/moodman-jan-brady-bunch-tran-MDxuzRvxF39VwnYu9B

Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!

[MHM]

@LookinForSpace

I just see no reason to play games with names, particularly those of the professionals involved

Plus it’s already hard enough to keep all the players straight.

[Omgitsme]

Ah, for some reason my brain didn’t connect those dots. I’m trying to make circles out of squares or something.

[Knights_Mom]

@Sdel

Marcia! Marcia! Marcia

Oh my nose!!

[EmilyM]

EmilyM: ooh look the thread has hundreds of new posts. There must be a development

Scrolls

Scrolls by force of will

Not sure why I keep expecting things to be different.

Meanwhile @ekat graciously updated us on an amendment with nary a comment to thank her. Thank you !

[Omgitsme]

I have no idea if this is a snide response or a genuine one, but I do know that conversations evolve beyond a single quote. What you saw as 2+2=4 I was seeing as 2+3=4

[CanteringCarrot]

@hut-ho78

Why are you saying “sure Jan.” So you think that is her name? Are you trying to dox her? Y’all got YD banned for doing that to someone on a private message.

Holy sh*t

[BatCoach]

Je-sus H. Christ. First you accuse COTH posters of being members of gay-bashing hate groups, and now since you apparently live under a rock and miss a simple Brady Bunch reference, you are accusing people of Doxing. Take a breath and step away from the keyboard for a bit.

YD got herself banned by her own actions.End of story.