Mb civil suit rulings 11/15/2022

[Angela_Freda]

I’m making the same to use in my green bean casserole

[BrownDerby]

@Sdel

And oh the irony. Wasn’t he just so hopping mad when he found out he had been subjected to being recorded without his knowledge? He went from a jolly “nothing to see here” attitude to very fuming and belligerent in an instant.

My gosh, ED was so ill and un-prepared his video should be shown to law students. Couldn’t even get the year right.

[Angela_Freda]

We had a similar Christmas fiasco, in which the dastardly genius beagle employed the accommodating black lab into retrieving and hitting the chocolate smidgens.
It was a Christmas highlighted by barfing up mint smidgens sprinkled with rabbit turds, hourly.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@smoofox

One of the mysteries, to me, of this tragedy, is why none of the adults in LK’s circle stepped in to do anything to deescalate and resolve the situation - or any of her bizarre behavior. Between RG, JK and KK, apparently none of them realized she was acting very strangely, her behavior was not rational, and they seemed to egg her on and support that rather than attempt to deescalate and resolve the situation.

I agree that the situation got as ugly as it did because RG was egging LK on in the same way MHG was egging MB on. It appears that it was MHG who most intensely wanted LK gone.

Each couple acted as a team warring with the other couple.

I think Tarshis and JK were the more level headed, adult, peripheral people who attempted to resolve the war peaceably.

As it turns out, MB was delusional. He acted on his delusions before the intervention by Tarshis, JK, and ED had time to work. LK was pursuing a legal resolution with ED when MB shot her.

Both sides (LK and RG vs MB and MHG) acted badly, stupidly, in creating and escalating the mess. The tragedy occurred because MB was delusional/insane and shot LK rather than wait a few more days to let LK, RG, ED and Tarshis work things out legally.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@smoofox

One of the mysteries, to me, of this tragedy, is why none of the adults in LK’s circle stepped in to do anything to deescalate and resolve the situation - or any of her bizarre behavior. Between RG, JK and KK, apparently none of them realized she was acting very strangely, her behavior was not rational, and they seemed to egg her on and support that rather than attempt to deescalate and resolve the situation.

I agree that the situation got as ugly as it did because RG was egging LK on in the same way MHG was egging MB on. It appears that it was MHG who most intensely wanted LK gone.

Each couple acted as a team warring with the other couple.

I think Tarshis and JK were the more level headed, adult, peripheral people who attempted to resolve the war peaceably.

As it turns out, MB was delusional. He acted on his delusions before the intervention by Tarshis, JK, and ED had time to work. LK was pursuing a legal resolution with ED when MB shot her.

Both sides (LK and RG vs MB and MHG) acted badly, stupidly, in creating and escalating the mess. The tragedy occurred because MB was delusional/insane and shot LK rather than wait a few more days to let LK, RG, ED and Tarshis work things out legally.

Well this is a new working theory of wrongness. RG the hero is now being cast as a villain.

QFP.

[KurPlexed]

@Angela_Freda

I could almost see her creating this whole waiver issue so she could mess with his mind by later removing a waiver she made memorable by creating drama around the signing of it.

Idk about anyone else but having a boarder/squatter on my property and knowing that they are refusing to sign a liability release, in itself is enough to make me have many many sleepless nights. It would drive me absolutely nuts.

[KurPlexed]

@Brown_Derby

You have to say, “halt, halt,” and then “bow

@Warmblood1. Excellent post! Perfect.

[trubandloki]

@Angela_Freda

@trubandloki

This is my opinion, I have no facts to prove it - but I think they not only did not try to deescalate, they actually encourage that she was right and that there was a reason to do this stuff, and she should continue to do this because there will be a benefit to her for doing this stuff. The adults in her life (she is an adult too, but… ) seem to be of the same user type mindset as Lauren is. This is clearly an example of like minds sticking together.

It might simply be easier.
That she’s doesn’t or isn’t allowed in the family home suggests that maybe they have thrown up their hands on this one, and go along with her nonsense to avoid the nonsense being directed at them.

I do not think so. I kind of look forward to the evidence that will be produced at the civil trial that might show just where the encouraging and planning were coming from.

It has been posted on this forum that Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) has gone so far as to call up Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Starks employer to try to make them take him back as an employee when he went MIA from life and work twice. That kind of shows that Jonathan Kanarek is not the sit back and let his daughter just do her thing with out his input and assistance.

[MorganSercu]

MB and MHG wanted LK & RG GONE. LK wasn’t happy as she wasn’t the center of attention by everyone at HH. She should have packed up her horses, belongings, ill-mannered untrained dog, Roxie and left. There are plenty of other trainers who are highly regarded within minutes of HH.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

The adults in her life (she is an adult too, but… ) seem to be of the same user type mindset as Lauren is. This is clearly an example of like minds sticking together.

I think this theory is supported by the very extensive family arrest record, which is visible to all on the New Jersey Courts site. Even the mom has an arrest record! That was just amazing.

Especially since at least one of them had an arrest record that spanned multiple pages.

Who does that?? Nobody at my barn, that’s for sure.

[MorganSercu]

That still comes across to me as he/they would rather throw fits and toss money at other people to keep LK as far away from themselves as possible. Not willing to ride out the storm if she got tossed out and had to fend for herself.

[Sdel]

@trubandloki

That kind of shows that Jonathan Kanarek is not the sit back and let his daughter just do her thing with out his input and assistance.

Plus, didn’t Bilinkas repeatedly state “the father” was behind or involved in every element of the FTB plan during the trial?

[MHM]

@Sdel

And oh the irony. Wasn’t he just so hopping mad when he found out he had been subjected to being recorded without his knowledge? He went from a jolly “nothing to see here” attitude to very fuming and belligerent in an instant.

I went back afterwards and watched his testimony a second time, and on the rewatch, it looked to me like he already knew he had been recorded before he got on the witness stand. But maybe he was surprised to find that everybody else knew it as well. Or maybe he was surprised that the subject came up in his testimony. Hard to say.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@smoofox

One of the mysteries, to me, of this tragedy, is why none of the adults in LK’s circle stepped in to do anything to deescalate and resolve the situation - or any of her bizarre behavior. Between RG, JK and KK, apparently none of them realized she was acting very strangely, her behavior was not rational, and they seemed to egg her on and support that rather than attempt to deescalate and resolve the situation.

I agree that the situation got as ugly as it did because RG was egging LK on in the same way MHG was egging MB on. It appears that it was MHG who most intensely wanted LK gone.

Each couple acted as a team warring with the other couple.

I think Tarshis and JK were the more level headed, adult, peripheral people who attempted to resolve the war peaceably.

As it turns out, MB was delusional. He acted on his delusions before the intervention by Tarshis, JK, and ED had time to work. LK was pursuing a legal resolution with ED when MB shot her.

Both sides (LK and RG vs MB and MHG) acted badly, stupidly, in creating and escalating the mess. The tragedy occurred because MB was delusional/insane and shot LK rather than wait a few more days to let LK, RG, ED and Tarshis work things out legally.

Well this is a new working theory of wrongness. RG the hero is now being cast as a villain.

QFP.

That explains a lot about you if you can only imagine someone as 100% hero or 100% villain.

I don’t think that way at all. I think RG egged LK on in the same way that MHG egged MB on to create an ugly, tense situation. With his admitted drug use, he’s hardly a paragon of virtue. At the same time, when MB shot LK and may have shot at him, his willingness and ability to subdue MB was a heroic act at that moment.

I also consider MB as anything but unidimensional — a charismatic, gifted rider and instructor loved by many, but capable of arrogance and of using people.

Do you see life as a Disney fable in which the villains are 100% villainous and the heroes 100% heroic?

[MHM]

@Mondo

I had just finished Thanksgiving dinner with my 2 sons and my older sister when one of the boys noticed a loose horse. The three of us jumped up and went to capture the horse (my horse no less) that was galloping around madly and making all the other horses excited. It was a free-for-all! But, while the four of us were dealing with that, my German Shepherd talked her Schipperke boyfriend into getting on the table and dragging the turkey off onto the floor, where they both proceeded to devour it! As turkey skin and bones are very bad for dogs, I called the vet who advised me to give them hydrogen peroxide until they puked. I did. Worst. Thanksgiving. Ever.

This sounds like the flipside of the Cookie McClung column the Chronicle ran for many years around the holidays about her efforts to combine preparations for a big family meal with also trying to fox hunt on the same day. Lol.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@Angela_Freda

@trubandloki

This is my opinion, I have no facts to prove it - but I think they not only did not try to deescalate, they actually encourage that she was right and that there was a reason to do this stuff, and she should continue to do this because there will be a benefit to her for doing this stuff. The adults in her life (she is an adult too, but… ) seem to be of the same user type mindset as Lauren is. This is clearly an example of like minds sticking together.

It might simply be easier.
That she’s doesn’t or isn’t allowed in the family home suggests that maybe they have thrown up their hands on this one, and go along with her nonsense to avoid the nonsense being directed at them.

I do not think so. I kind of look forward to the evidence that will be produced at the civil trial that might show just where the encouraging and planning were coming from.

It has been posted on this forum that Jonathan Kanarek (@Inigo-montoya) has gone so far as to call up Robert Guy Goodwin/Jim E Starks employer to try to make them take him back as an employee when he went MIA from life and work twice. That kind of shows that Jonathan Kanarek is not the sit back and let his daughter just do her thing with out his input and assistance.

JK went so far as to make a phone call to RGs employer on RGs behalf?

Gasp! Oh, dear! A phone call?

[MHM]

@BrownDerby

Couldn’t even get the year right.

Omg. I had forgotten that part!

[MHM]

@Angela_Freda

the dastardly genius beagle

As a longtime beagle owner, I would say the “dastardly genius” description should be part of the breed description. Especially when it comes to food.

[MHM]

@CurrentlyHorseless

LK was pursuing a legal resolution with ED when MB shot her.

How so?

By sneaking around the property at night in her ninja outfit? By calling in the fire marshal? By checking the box on the CPS form for child abuse?

[Angela_Freda]

This one, my first dog, was beyond.
He was “wicked smaht” and outsmarted us at every. Single. Turn.