That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking…
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“Active shooters” share one trait-depression. As @CurrentlyHorseless said, it often ends in suicide, not just by self but by LE. Also, a trail of dead bodies would have looked a lot worse in court than two alive witnesses who need a boot camp in witness stand decorum.
No, there is trial testimony as to the truth of that claim.
There doesn’t need to be evidence. There is testimony.
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Hasn’t Lauren bragged about them sending letters to the judge in that case too?
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Testimony is evidence, “testimonial” evidence.
Well then your statement that there is no evidence is wrong, isn’t it?
ETA: testimony is testimony. “Testimonial evidence” is just a term to describe a statement made under oath, which can be considered prima facie evidence.
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You’re right, I’m guilty of expecting a PD to serve and protect, especially the legit residents.
What was I thinking?
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I thought the testimony from several witnesses at the trial verified that there was no bench in the spot in the barn where LK/RG claimed the bug in her locker would have picked up any conversations.
And if LK/RG were listening to conversations around the barn, maybe they heard that the bug sweep guys were coming, and removed the bugs before they could be found. Perhaps when they were “wrapping the horse” late at night.
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I would think that if LK and RG were listening to the recordings they might have heard MB make the appointment for the sweep. They could have had time to remove the recorders before the sweep team got there.
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You’re correct… but he’d talked to people who’d been victims of the two… who perhaps knew some of this?
Jinx!
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My guess here is that they have corroborating statements eg text messages or recordings that discuss that location and as such, they’re including it exactly as stated. Make them prove it wasn’t where they said it was, if you will.
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Great minds think alike!! 
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LK said in trial the recorder was in her locker, where there is no bench.
The new filing says benches in the stall area of the barn. I am trying to find a pic of the stall area of the barn…
Pics for reference:
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I am willing to bet Deninger has some evidence. I don’t think he would put in writing his amendments just to see what sticks to the wall.
Smoke and mirrors is more whatshisname, LK’s attorneys style.
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I’m aware of murder/suicide and sure that may have been the outcome but I don’t see how him going on some kind of murder spree was in the cards. I think that’s a stretch.
ETA: not all “active shooters” suffer from depression. That’s a gross generalization.
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Thank you for that info!
I recall from the real estate photos that there was a built in bench in the locker area, but it was in a different part of the room. LK said people sat in front of her locker, and clearly there’s no bench there.
For anyone believing that a small handheld recorder, placed inside a helmet (as LK has said on this forum), inside a wooden locker, could clearly capture conversations that occur on the other side of the room or in an office a couple rooms away, try it out yourself. Place your phone on record, put it in your helmet and in a wooden box, then walk away and talk at different distances. See how close you have to be to hear back the words you say on your phone recording.
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Phone is different than VAR.
I have VAR and it can record someone across the room easily.
Just want to add the ignore function has been working perfectly for me.
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