How can the subpoenas be fishing expeditions when the party filing the law suit refuses to give the information to the party being sued?
Some of this post sounds very threatening. Is that the way you intended it @Fat_Dinah?
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Except…Eggbutt and LO or Susan Wachowich weren’t included in texts related to the actual incidents on the farm, leading up to and including the day of the shooting. Nor did those three participate in transcribing potentially illegal recordings that are a gigantic part of the plot to Finish The Bastard that LK and RG testified to, and then further boasted about her transcripts and threaten to send them to many, many people in furtherance of the Finish the Bastard plot, but when the defendants asked for them, ignored the subpoena.
Eggbutt, LO, and The DH lady aren’t also on previously recorded phone calls discussing possession of video that is relevant to the shooting and has subsequently not been disclosed, like JK/IM.
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Not even close.
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Wow!! Talk about reaching!! Have I texted LO, SW, or anyone else related to this situation? Because I am friends with someone and have business relationships with anyone does not imply we are bosom buddies like Gertie and Nellie. Grasping at straws is never a good look.
“The problem is the not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem.” ~Captain Jack Sparrow.
Speaking of Jack, where is @DreadPirateRoberts?
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The irony of this is not lost on me.
Comparing first amendment issues to a situation where recordings were obtained illegally without party consent is not exactly the best comparison.
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Oh brother. 
MB and SGF’s attorneys have copies of the texts and at least some of the recordings. What they don’t have is a copy of the transcripts that KK claims to have made, and which were supposedly sent to SS by LK in furtherance of her plan to ruin MB’s business and career.
Those transcripts are needed to ascertain if they are true and accurate representations of the texts and recordings that were sent to SS, or if certain information was left out, changed, embellished, whatever, to try to emphasize whatever “malfeasance” LK was accusing MB of, or it the information was changed to minimize or conceal LK’s wrongful actions in the plot to destroy him.
The fact that the K-Klan is trying to move heaven and earth to avoid having to turn over those transcripts is clearly an attempt to prevent incriminating evidence against LK from coming to light. I sure hope that Judge Sceusi understands that and orders that the transcripts be turned over.
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What are the repercussions if he orders them turned over and it is refused?
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But it is hilarious.
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Party pooper with your pesky logic! Lol.
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Choked on my soup!
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Some possibilities:
Contempt of Court with orders on how to purge the contempt.
Fines.
Jail (although this doesn’t happen often)
The evidence is precluded from the trial.
If the court determines that withholding is willful, he can instruct the jury at trial that the plaintiff willingly withheld information that may have aided the defendants.
Dismissal of the plaintiff’s suit.
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If that happens, can the defendant(s) be reimbursed by the plaintiff for money spent on legal fees? I understand they may have to ask the court to order it, but is it feasible it will be granted?
I do realize that a court order to pay up =/= getting the money you are owed.
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It simply proves they have their head(s) so deep in the sand that logic is failing them…yet, they can’t even grasp that!! They double down instead of bowing their head(s) and moving on to topic.
I also would like to know what happens when the Kanareks refuse to relinquish the recordings and transcripts if they are ordered to do so? Will they once again say they must have gotten lost at two different law offices? Will they, after all this time, say they “lost” them? Or will they simply refuse? One would think the attorneys have already subpoenaed SS for their copies and want to verify discrepancies to the recordings they actually have. Haven’t we been led to believe there are more recordings that weren’t surrendered? Oh, and those implied videos!!!
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I think that might boil down to the judge’s discretion. What I’m wondering is, will the battle of the evidence start all over as Michael pursues his counterclaim? In which case, the ultimate result would be a finding in favor of him if the now defendant LK does not comply.
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Another case management conference has been scheduled - dated for January 12.
CivilCaseJacket (24).pdf (170.3 KB)
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Before another mediator? Perhaps they (MB’s attorneys) will tell Bruce what they expect LK to fork over rather than continuing their lawsuit against her! Will SGF attorneys do the same? Does this case management hearing include Silver too?
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I wonder if they don’t already have them from whatever they got from SS…
Same guy as the first one on Oct 4th, and yes, they include all the parties.
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Silver is included
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Question for the Leagle Eagles: if one does not want to hand over incriminating evidence what happens if they destroy it, burn it etc…. Then they can say it never existed …. That they just made it up because “ya know social media”. How can the defense prove anything…?
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